Kabutos Edos are weaker than when they were alive

[Bogard]

After reading this chapter i've notice that Kabuto didn't even knew Itachi that much, he didn't knew his full potential. Proof is that he didn't knew Itachi could use another forbidden jutsu(Izanami). Like he didn't also knew Nagato's full potentiel cuz he didn't even knew Nagato was a sensor. U_U

That makes me also remember the fact that when he wanted to capture Bee and Naruto with Deidara's help, he said himself that "i know nothing about art, so i will let you control yourself".

That means that Edos we're seeing right now are only using what Kabuto want them to use and what he knows about them, except when he doesn't control them and left them do all what they want.

So i believe Edo's who were controlled by Kabuto are weaker than what they can really do. When i say that, i talk in particularly of Edo's like Nagato, Zabuza, 3rd Raikage, Muu and others i've forgotten. Cuz Kabuto didn't knew their full power, they were seriously restricted in their fights i believe.

And that could also explain why Shodaime and Nidaime seems weak in part1. It was because they could only do what Orochimaru ordered them to do, so they were restricted cuz Orochimaru didn't knew their full power.

I think the same thing goes with Itachi. If Itachi was again Kabuto's puppet, he will have probably being much more weaker than we see right now, just cuz he didn't knew his full power, and could have been sealed easily(or not?) like the other Edos.

So i made a conclusion that Edos are weaker when they are controlled.
So what do you think? :shrug:

 

[GodOfTheUchiha]

Seems plausible, good work

 

[Vayne]

yeah u have a point +rep

 

[Viewtiful]

They're only weaker/not as good if the summoner is controlling them, a la the first 2 Hokage when Orochimaru controlled them against Hiruzen. The summoner isn't likely to know the summon's full repetoire nor fight as effectively for them.

 

[Tsuki]

yes you're right +rep and that's why we see for example, kinkaku, ginkaku, madara and the other that are not controlled giving trouble to every1 the most

 

[Memoria]

I agree with you, IMO they're weaker when he is controlling them.

 

[ten tailed demon]

they are defenetly weaker when controlled cause they cant extend their power 2 their full potential.

 

[Retsu]

This should be common knowledge, anyone with a brain should know by now that if Hiruzen beat the 1st and 2nd Hokage by himself, that edo's are less than 1/5 of their former glory, it really irked me when ppl assumed Itachi could easily beat Nagato as he did when he sealed his Edo, which was being controlled by Kabuto

 

[Gregsta]

Yeah that's great, didn't think of that. +rep

 

[Joon]

Actually, it is much debatable. At the time of Orochimaru's Version of Edo Tensei, the Charm Tag or Tails-Men was created to make the Edo retain their knowledge of abilities and skills, and move through the User commands via hand-seals. His version was weaker because the Edo at that time were not as efficient as it is now.

Kabuto's Version of Edo Tensei, the Charm Tag or Tails-men, allows his Edo's to retain their personality which makes up most of their unique skills and abilities to perform them. At any given time, Kabuto can erase the minds of the Edo Tensei and make them killing machines. His version would be consider more stronger than Orochimaru's Version because of the different use of Charm Tag or Tails-men use.

However, even with the Charm Tag or Tails-men set in place, it would still not make them any stronger than when they were alive. These is just my opinion. It is common knowledge, if you think about as @Retsu said.

 

[Deadai]

They're only weaker/not as good if the summoner is controlling them, a la the first 2 Hokage when Orochimaru controlled them against Hiruzen. The summoner isn't likely to know the summon's full repetoire nor fight as effectively for them.

agreed I think the same way the ONLY reasion there weaker are when the summoner controlls them because he wouldent know ALL there jutsu or how they would use it in battle but if the edo's fight freely they are stronger then when they where alive commen sense people:sy:

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

I agree

 

[Stark]

True

 

[Simplified]

This is common knowledge imo, but nonetheless good thread.

 

[Bogard]

Seems plausible, good work

yeah u have a point +rep

yes you're right +rep and that's why we see for example, kinkaku, ginkaku, madara and the other that are not controlled giving trouble to every1 the most

Yeah that's great, didn't think of that. +rep

Thanks

 

[hokutoshinken]

Itachi, Madara and Deidara are the only edos that are stronger than when they were alive.

 

[Retsu]

Itachi, Madara and Deidara are the only edos that are stronger than when they were alive.

Only because they kept all of their free will

 

[DeViliShChild]

Agreed but the 1st and second were not controlled nor was zabuza after a while

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[Ngylle]

i dont think so