Kabuto's contribution to power up sasuke forgotten/ignored

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Hello guys, I would like to talk about how Kishi is forgetful about some stuff from the manga, also he has problem to keep manga consiscent. Here I go:

We know that both Naruto and Sasuke have recieved power up from outside and inside. Both Naruto and Sasuke were given half of Hagoromo's power from inside:

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However before that, Naruto and Sasuke needed to be saved by outside forces as well:

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and we know certain two characters decided to save our main stars:

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First, of them Obito Uchiha stole Shukaku and Gyuuki chakra with Yin Kurama took before by Black Zetsu who shared body with Obito and seal all of them into Naruto to bring him back to life.

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Second of them Kabuto Yakushi pumped Hashirama's cells along with use of his medical ninjutsu to bring Sasuke back to life:

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Finally we know that Naruto's current power up depends on both: Obito's contribution and Half of Hagoromo power, while Sasuke's current power up depends on just half of Hagoromo power, unless you count boosted/enhanced amount of chakra/physical stats is counted as Kabuto's contribution.

I don't doubt that Naruto is stronger or should be supperior due to this:

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having power of all tailed beasts a top of half of Hagoromo of course make you supperior/ more powerfull.

But sasuke even before got something from Hashirama:
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Imo I don't understand why Sasuke has no Wood release or No Tomoe ripple Rinnegan in other eye to use six paths of techniques...

Imo having six paths of techniques + MS techniques in one eye and Tomoe Rinnegan in other eye would benefit him a lot.

Thanks for reading !

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The only thing Kabuto transferred into him is his fodderibility.

That's why Sasuke can't do anything now.
 

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Sasuke also got Itachis eyes to get perfect Susanoo
 

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Kabuto only transferreed him Senju DNA, Obito made Naruto have all 9 Bijuus, there's no camparison
 

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kishi did not gorget that.. you are just hasty...maybe it will show up later since all of Naruto and Sasuke are being pushed to their limits...
 

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Kabuto only transferreed him Senju DNA, Obito made Naruto have all 9 Bijuus, there's no camparison

But I didn't mean to make vs thread, just take a second look what you wrote. Naruto got Bijuu and has shown that power. Sasuke got Senju DNA, HASN"T SHOWN ANYTHING FROM IT.

No matter how small contribution it was, but still Kishi should show it, if he care... that it.

kishi did not gorget that.. you are just hasty...maybe it will show up later since all of Naruto and Sasuke are being pushed to their limits...

I hope you are right, but honestly I am afraid he forgot or doesn't care at this point...

just enjoy what kishi gives us.

I am still enjoying it... but it dropped in quality a bit or even more. However it doesn't mean that Kishi can not correct this mistake and improve Manga quality by doing some stuff like that so manga get more consiscient.
 

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But I didn't mean to make vs thread, just take a second look what you wrote. Naruto got Bijuu and has shown that power. Sasuke got Senju DNA, HASN"T SHOWN ANYTHING FROM IT.

No matter how small contribution it was, but still Kishi should show it, if he care... that it.
Senju DNA only makes you have more chakra...
 

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Kishi won't forget. In next chapters sasuke will show that power
 

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Senju DNA only makes you have more chakra...

Well I mean Hashirama's DNA which should result in awakening Rinnegan in other eye or giving Sasuke's Strong Yang chakra/bigger amount of chakra. I know that Sasuke may not get Wood release, because he doesn't have earth and water chakra types, but still.

Kishi won't forget. In next chapters sasuke will show that power

Really ? Do you really believe in what you typed ?, I seriously doubt...
 
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Well I mean Hashirama's DNA which should result in awakening Rinnegan in other eye or giving Sasuke's Strong Yang chakra/bigger amount of chakra. I know that Sasuke may not get Wood release, before he doesn;t have earth and water chakra types, but still.



Really ? Do you really believe in what you typed ?, I seriously doubt...

@Bold is just wrong, hashirama no longer has ashura's chakra so I doubt his chakra will make change anymore.
 

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Hello guys, I would like to talk about how Kishi is forgetful about some stuff from the manga, also he has problem to keep manga consiscent. Here I go:

We know that both Naruto and Sasuke have recieved power up from outside and inside. Both Naruto and Sasuke were given half of Hagoromo's power from inside:

You must be registered for see images

However before that, Naruto and Sasuke needed to be saved by outside forces as well:

You must be registered for see images

and we know certain two characters decided to save our main stars:

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First, of them Obito Uchiha stole Shukaku and Gyuuki chakra with Yin Kurama took before by Black Zetsu who shared body with Obito and seal all of them into Naruto to bring him back to life.

You must be registered for see images
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Second of them Kabuto Yakushi pumped Hashirama's cells along with use of his medical ninjutsu to bring Sasuke back to life:

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Finally we know that Naruto's current power up depends on both: Obito's contribution and Half of Hagoromo power, while Sasuke's current power up depends on just half of Hagoromo power, unless you count boosted/enhanced amount of chakra/physical stats is counted as Kabuto's contribution.

I don't doubt that Naruto is stronger or should be supperior due to this:

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having power of all tailed beasts a top of half of Hagoromo of course make you supperior/ more powerfull.

But sasuke even before got something from Hashirama:
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Imo I don't understand why Sasuke has no Wood release or No Tomoe ripple Rinnegan in other eye to use six paths of techniques...

Imo having six paths of techniques + MS techniques in one eye and Tomoe Rinnegan in other eye would benefit him a lot.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts ;)

Just because you get Hashirama's DNA doesn't mean you can just use wood jutsus. Sasuke did no training on how to make water and earth chakra to make wood jutsu. Then he also needs to copy Hashirama's or Madara's wood jutsus but he was never around them when they used them so he knows no jutsus of that element to use it. Yamato had to train to use all 3 elements to use wood jutsus and Madara had years after reviving himself after his fight with Hashirama to learn them.

As for the Rinnegan, you do know Hashirama's cells no longer had Ashura's chakra right? The Sage stated Madara took Hashirama's cells when the transmigration was still active for them both while Sasuke got Hashirama's DNA when Naruto has Ashura's chakra so he needs Naruto's cells/DNA for the same affect as Madara.

Sasuke only have 1 Rinnegan and from what we seen from Obito with 1 Rinnegan, he can only use a small amount of the Rinnegan jutsus. Sasuke should have like 3 Rinnegan jutsus but I don't think they would all be like Madara's/Nagato's.

Well I mean Hashirama's DNA which should result in awakening Rinnegan in other eye or giving Sasuke's Strong Yang chakra/bigger amount of chakra. I know that Sasuke may not get Wood release, before he doesn;t have earth and water chakra types, but still.



Really ? Do you really believe in what you typed ?, I seriously doubt...

No, Hashirama wasn't Ashura's transmigration at the time, Naruto was so Sasuke would need Naruto's DNA for the Rinnegan. The Sage awakened the Rinnegan in Sasuke with his power. Sasuke could learn water and earth elements as Kakashi had long ago (pre-series) then he would need to learn to combined them (Hashirama's DNA allows Yamato to combine them for wood).
 

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this is true.
Sasuke did get a lot of hashi dna but he has not shown any mokuon abilities yet.
Maybe in the future he can do it when kishi allows him to get more panel time.
 

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this is true.
Sasuke did get a lot of hashi dna but he has not shown any mokuon abilities yet.
Maybe in the future he can do it when kishi allows him to get more panel time.

Yeah I know Kishi completly forgot/ignored Kabuto's contribution or at least it looks like so to me.

Unless Kishi gives us explanation/point out/ show what Kabuto's contribution was, I call it bullshit.
 

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Yeah I know Kishi completly forgot/ignored Kabuto's contribution or at least it looks like so to me.

Unless Kishi gives us explanation/point out/ show what Kabuto's contribution was, I call it bullshit.

you must understand, naruto is the main character and kishi will do what he must to glorify him and he cannot do it unless he nerfs sasuke otherwise sasuke would always outshine naruto.

This is also the reason why kakashi was given a PS just like that.

Kishi is just contradicting his own manga just for the sake of glorifying some characters and make them relevant.
 

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if obito can use mokuton so should sasuke. maybe in the future.

sasuke needs a naruto boob.
if ashura chakra is gone from hashi cells, then why did hagoromo appear from madaras legs after hashi touched themand say it was bc of all the chakra mixing?
 

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It would be awesome to see Sasuke with all Rinnegan abilities to a greater extent, including moukton. But Kishi keeps nerfing him every chapter.
 

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you must understand, naruto is the main character and kishi will do what he must to glorify him and he cannot do it unless he nerfs sasuke otherwise sasuke would always outshine naruto.

This is also the reason why kakashi was given a PS just like that.

Kishi is just contradicting his own manga just for the sake of glorifying some characters and make them relevant.

I agree with everything you said except bolded one.

I can make you sure that that I could make Naruto and Sasuke on par with each other at current stage with no need to nerf any of them. Kishi just got lost in his manga, or doesn't care at all and write something at whim.

There is no need to show how OP is Sasuke in just one chapter while nerfing Naruto or opposite. You can show both characters awesome with their abiltiies being used against enemy, hell even enemy can shine and won;t get nerf but it requires good writting and CARING FOR MANGA. Kishi doesn't that your reply.
 

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Kabuto only transferreed him Senju DNA, Obito made Naruto have all 9 Bijuus, there's no camparison

Correction, he gave him Hashirama DNA, the same person who neg diffs Biju's and makes them his pets Lol

About equal, but Kishi forgot about that so.. Oh well, maybe he will remember later on and finally have Sasuke use his full potential instead of holding him back so badly.
 

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I would say Sasuke's body is at LEAST 50% Hashirama cells omg all the Hashirama chakra and DNA he has gotten in this war...

Yet no Mokuton? No physical enhancement? No chakra increasements? Definitely forgot about all of the DNA and chakra he has gotten from Hashirama.
 
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