Orochimaru did not bring Kurama back to life, Kurama cannot die because he is a spirit. Orochimaru only has a contract with Minato's soul, Kurama just happened to be in Minato. It doesnt need to be argued that Kurama has stronger chakra than Orochimaru.
So Orochimaru has no control over Kurama who is in Minato so he cannot control BM Minato.
Orochimaru did not bring Kurama back to life, Kurama cannot die because he is a spirit. Orochimaru only has a contract with Minato's soul, Kurama just happened to be in Minato. It doesnt need to be argued that Kurama has stronger chakra than Orochimaru.
So Orochimaru has no control over Kurama who is in Minato so he cannot control BM Minato.
He had the chakra receivers in them and had a rinnegan eye. The minute they went full Bijuu mode they started breaking from his control and he had to reel them back into the Gedo Mazou.
He had the chakra receivers in them. The minute they went full Bijuu mode they started breaking from his control and he had to reel them back into the Gedo Mazou.
Well i never saw it that way, but it still weird that Minato could control Kurama because he Minato was dead, so when did he learn to controll Kurama? Never understood that part.
Well i never saw it that way, but it still weird that Minato could control Kurama because he Minato was dead, so when did he learn to controll Kurama? Never understood that part.
Lol thats not how it works Demonic. I propose to you a "negetive". The one holding a "negative" claim doesn't bring forth evidence to make the claim right. It is your position to bring "positive" claim as to why yours is supported.
Lol Why would I need proof Hashirama can do something it was never stated he could not do? If I was to assert an unfounded claim like Hashirama can use a winged Mokujin, then you can ask me for proof. Edo Hashirama has the only known requirement to perform SS - Sage Mode. Nowhere was it stated he could not use SS, yet you're asking for proof that he can?
Your "evidence" (Madara's words) is easily debunked.
After Madara was revived, Hashirama stated Madara had retrieved his past powers:
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This after he showcased Taijutsu and a Katon. Yet, Edo Madara had used PS against Edo Hashirama:
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So this proves Madara's statement did not necessarily mean Hashirama could not use SS as Hashirama said the same thing Madara did, but was clearly not referencing PS.
Unless youre prepared to admit Hashirama thinks Madara's katon/Taijutsu > Edo Madara's PS which obviously makes no sense.
DB stating it "can" doesn't change the fact that it "can" (this is why you call strawhat btw Lol). DB stated Madara being the wielder of this jutsu despite having no feats that he can, Rikudou or not.
I actually have evidence, DB, yet alone that claim I made was a "positive" claim I made. Therefore I had to back it up.
You made the "positive" claim that Edo Hashirama can use SS, therefore you have to do the same
That's the thing, you don't have evidence. You have a DB scan that says all PS can fly.
That's not even evidence. DB says anyone with a toad contract can summon any toad.
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Does that mean chunin exams Naruto can summon Fukasaku and Shima now? Lol
Use common sense buddy, same concept with Ps, just because the DB says it can doesn't mean it can without the necessary component (Rikudou chakra in our case).
Proof? Orochimaru uses Hashirama's DNA to strengthen just binding. As far as I remember, it is the same DNA that let Yamato tame Kyuubiruto and Hashirama tame all the Bijuu back in the past.
Proof? Orochimaru uses Hashirama's DNA to strengthen just binding. As far as I remember, it is the same DNA that let Yamato tame Kyuubiruto and Hashirama tame all the Bijuu back in the past.
And? Obito used ONLY receivers. Edo Tensei was used by Kabuto. Not to mention that Kabuto with all his body enhancements and with SM himself praised Oro's chakra and said even just a little bit gained from Anko's Cursed Seal was enough to greately increase the binding potential. Now with 100% Hashi DNA body, his chakra and binding power if way, way stronger. Most likely the only reason Hashirama broke his retstraing was because Orochimaru used Hashi's cells against him.
Not to mention that Minato must be able to forcefully draw Kurama's chakra, without letting the latter interfere. So whether Kurama can be controlled or not doesn't really matter.
And last but not least - Orochimaru could use Five Elements Seal to simply seal Kurama's chakra away.
And? Obito used ONLY receivers. Edo Tensei was used by Kabuto. Not to mention that Kabuto with all his body enhancements and with SM himself praised Oro's chakra and said even just a little bit gained from Anko's Cursed Seal was enough to greately increase the binding potential. Now with 100% Hashi DNA body, his chakra and binding power if way, way stronger. Most likely the only reason Hashirama broke his retstraing was because Orochimaru used Hashi's cells against him.
Not to mention that Minato must be able to forcefully draw Kurama's chakra, without letting the latter interfere. So whether Kurama can be controlled or not doesn't really matter.
And last but not least - Orochimaru could use Five Elements Seal to simply seal Kurama's chakra away.
With 100% Hashi DNA body I don't see why he couldn't. But it doesn't even matter, since Kurama is SEALED inside Minato and Minato is BOUND by Orochimaru. So Kurama isn't taking over because Minato cannot do that. So how in the world do you want Kurama to interfere here?
With 100% Hashi DNA body I don't see why he couldn't. But it doesn't even matter, since Kurama is SEALED inside Minato and Minato is BOUND by Orochimaru. So Kurama isn't taking over because Minato cannot do that. So how in the world do you want Kurama to interfere here?
Hashirama controlled the Bijuu physically with Mokuton. Not even he could fully control them. Which is why Mito needed to actually take the Kyuubi in herself. Hashirama controlled the Bijuu with his DNA lol. SO Zestu will be able to control a Bijuu? Get out of here.
Orochimaru has a contract with Minato's soul, he has no control over Kurama. Kurama's chakra is definitely stronger than Orochimaru's so Orochimaru gets overpowered here.
Minato using Kurama's chakra overpower Orochimaru's control.
