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Why? The burden of proof is on the claimant.

You're statement is similar to the a personal accusing somebody of a crime and saying prove you're innocent.
 

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DSM Kabuto have Orochi's Powers, why wouldn't he be Superior.
 

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Orochimaru knows of all Kabuto's modifications and could easily replicate them and more now.
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But if you want solid proof, look at the fact that Kabuto looks over Orochimaru's rejects like the second-rate scientist he is.
 

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There's really no denying it because it's possible to surpass somebody else using their powers, we've seen it before. However personally I like Orochimaru more than Kabuto.
 

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There's really no denying it because it's possible to surpass somebody else using their powers, we've seen it before. However personally I like Orochimaru more than Kabuto.

Needless to say even the stronger version of Orochimaru was incapable of defeating Itachi. That solo god.
 

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There's really no denying it because it's possible to surpass somebody else using their powers, we've seen it before. However personally I like Orochimaru more than Kabuto.

No! Nein! Niet! Manga facts be damned! Scans are useless in the nds!
 

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Needless to say even the stronger version of Orochimaru was incapable of defeating Itachi. That solo god.

Yeah but we kinda know that too since Itachi beat Kabuto too with all that KKG/Secret arts he absorbed along with the Dragon Sage Mode he has regardless if the whole fight was PIS induced or not.

Mangekyo powers are already that strong enough being able to beat most (not all) Sage Mode users, now add that with Itachi battle intellect Itachi he usually comes prepared for foes that are a lot more powerful. Kabuto fell prey to that.
No! Nein! Niet! Manga facts be damned! Scans are useless in the nds!
Yo I swear I'm like fanboys worse nightmare. If a manga stands with something then I always stay by it no matter what. No fanmade translations, friend members, or hypes can persuade otherwise.
 
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Yeah but we kinda know that too since Itachi beat Kabuto too with all that KKG/Secret arts he absorbed along with the Dragon Sage Mode he has regardless if the whole fight was PIS induced or not.

Mangekyo powers are already that strong enough being able to beat most (not all) Sage Mode users, now add that with Itachi battle intellect Itachi he usually comes prepared for foes that are a lot more powerful. Kabuto fell prey to that.

Yo I swear I'm like fanboys worse nightmare. If a manga stands with something then I always stay by it no matter what. No fanmade translations, friend members, or hypes can persuade otherwise.

Agreed bro. And don't forget Kabuto had the location in his favor as well. The odds were literally against Itachi but he still performed a solo. :cool:
 

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There's really no denying it because it's possible to surpass somebody else using their powers, we've seen it before. However personally I like Orochimaru more than Kabuto.

Sorry Tobious that statements only applicable to a specific point in time. Kabuto's hubris was too strong he made a lot of statements which turned out to be false. The question is mmarises is he still as strong after Orochimaru took back his own power?
 
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There's really no denying it because it's possible to surpass somebody else using their powers, we've seen it before. However personally I like Orochimaru more than Kabuto.

Just because Kabuto said he was stronger doesn't mean he is stronger.
 

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Agreed bro. And don't forget Kabuto had the location in his favor as well. The odds were literally against Itachi but he still performed a solo. :cool:

Oh yeah I forgot that Sage Art Inorganic Animation and White Rage are super effective inside of a cave, hence Ryuchi's cave. Itachi did well, though I wish he learned more Uchiha techniques from Tobi so that we can see him use Uchiha reflection or Uchiha flame formation.
Izanami was cutting it to close of a call for me.
Sorry Tobious that statements only applicable to a specific point in time. Kabuto's hubris was too strong he made a lot of statements which turned out to be false. The question is mmarises is he still as strong after Orochimaru took back his own power?
Hey if Orochimaru is stronger now then I have no problems admitting that I'm wrong. Orochimaru always does well with time for some reason.
 

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Just because Kabuto said he was stronger doesn't mean he is stronger.

I'm just going by what he said and preformed in the manga. I usually don't listen to hype at all (trust me everyone hates me for that) but when Kabuto started using Orochimaru's jutsu+powerful secret arts+powerful bloodline limit from Orochimaru's experiments. It's hard to argue otherwise. If you have any manga pages that proves Orochimaru superior then I'll see what you have to say. It really doesn't bother me on who's stronger or not because it's too close of a call imo.
 
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