Kabuto no longer has DSM.

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read the last part of the quote.

I said after orochimaru's charka he showed massive ability to use and change edo tensei.

Its clear i read the manga.

I just didnt see the part where juggo dna alone could unlock DSM and strength the effect and control over edo's

:sy: can you please stop. This like an adult debating with a 3 year old who thinks the tooth fairy is real. Everything has already been said in this thread. Kabuto has DSM according to Juugo who knows about senjutsu chakra cause his clan kkg.

and to what exaar said, he is saying the same thing I am.
 
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i made this thread right after i was in your thread.

didnt read it all but all i say was DSM kabuto.

And i lost it, after seeing multi other threads saying the same shit

I get your point.
So many. Thats why I did not write DMS on the title.
It was an idea for a fantasy vs but I didnt wanted to gey flamed xD
I guess is dangerous to bring some character into play. haha


Of course he CAN'T use DSM. He only could only use it because Orochimarus
chakra.
 
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:sy: can you please stop. This like an adult debating with a 3 year old who thinks the tooth fairy is real. Everything has already been said in this thread. Kabuto has DSM according to Juugo who knows about senjutsu chakra.

once again, why didnt kabuto Achive DSM earlyer in the manga if what your saying is correct.

p.s name calling and stupidty isnt nessciary. you can argue your flawed point w/o being immature
 

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Orochimaru took his chakra, he can still use dsm...
 

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take alook at slaton02 attachment on page one.

it says orochimaru released the sage mode and took back his charka.


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He simply released Sage mode and took his chakra back, There is nothing stopping Kabuto Collecting More Sage chakra and returning back to DSM mode.

All Oro took was his chakra back, He did not take Kabuto's powers away from him.
 

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take alook at slaton02 attachment on page one.

it says orochimaru released the sage mode and took back his charka.

I get your point.
So many. Thats why I did not write DMS on the title.
It was an idea for a fantasy vs but I didnt wanted to gey flamed xD
I guess is dangerous to bring some character into play. haha


Of course he CAN'T use DSM. He only could only use it because Orochimarus
chakra.
You didn't read the manga either..... huh?
once again, why didnt kabuto Achive DSM earlyer in the manga if what your saying is correct.

p.s name calling and stupidty isnt nessciary. you can argue your flawed point w/o being immature

Why didn't Obito take Naruto when he was younger? (not a good example) From what they shown (this is proof you didn't read) Kabuto didn't inject the sound 5, and taka dna till after Oro died. Talk to Kishi he is the one who drawed it up not me but all I'm saying to you is what was said/shown in the manga and Oro's chakra has nothing todo with DSM.

When did I call you a named? Sorry if I did.
 
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He simply released Sage mode and took his chakra back, There is nothing stopping Kabuto Collecting More Sage chakra and returning back to DSM mode.

All Oro took was his chakra back, He did not take Kabuto's powers away from him.

oh really but you just got finish saying he didnt.
read what you posted before

Oro didn't "release" DSM, Kabuto body turned back to it's human form because Oro tooks his chakra back, it was Oro's chakra that made his body look the way it did, Not DSM.

yea. but im the one w/o the brain. leave my thread

You didn't read the manga either..... huh?


Why didn't Obito take Naruto when he was younger? (not a good example) From what they shown (this is proof you didn't read) Kabuto didn't inject the sound 5, and taka dna till after Oro died. Talk to Kishi he is the one who drawed it up not me but all I'm saying to you is what was said/shown in the manga and Oro's chakra has nothing todo with DSM.

When did I call you a named? Sorry if I did.

why are you talkin about obito and naruto? that has nothing to due with this thread.

I didnt ask you when kabuto inject himself with stolen powers, i asked you why didnt kabuto gain DSM if all he needed[ according to you] was juggo dna.
 

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He simply released Sage mode and took his chakra back, There is nothing stopping Kabuto Collecting More Sage chakra and returning back to DSM mode.

All Oro took was his chakra back, He did not take Kabuto's powers away from him.

Sage Mode NEEDS big chakra reserves.
Kabuto alone doesnt have that. Thats whats stoping
Kabuto from collecting Sage Chakra.
Even his Edo Tensei was weaker before he got more Orochimaru chakra.
 

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which part?

dont bring the retardness to this thread please

explain or gtfo

Really you should leave the base for making such a dumbass thread. You have no manga proof then when someone calls you out on it you tell them to GTFO, Moron.
 

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oh really but you just got finish saying he didnt.
read what you posted before



yea. but im the one w/o the brain. leave my thread



why are you talkin about obito and naruto? that has nothing to due with this thread.

I didnt ask you when kabuto inject himself with stolen powers, i asked you why didnt kabuto gain DSM if all he needed[ according to you] was juggo dna.

Why do you have a hard time reading? I told you what Juugo's DNA did for im already. Kabuto didn't know why Juugo went on rampages and found out it was gathering senjutsu chakra. I'm not sure when this happen Im not Kishimoto and I'm not sure Juugo's ability was even needed for him to learn sage mode. I just know it made him able to stay in it for as long as he wants (which obviously helps him gather sage chakra)
Kabuto didn't know about all of Juugo's clan abilities till after more studying.
 

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Why do you have a hard time reading? I told you what Juugo's DNA did for im already. Kabuto didn't know why Juugo went on rampages and found out it was gathering senjutsu chakra. I'm not sure when this happen Im not Kishimoto and I'm not sure Juugo's ability was even needed for him to learn sage mode. I just know it made him able to stay in it for as long as he wants (which obviously helps him gather sage chakra)
Kabuto didn't know about all of Juugo's clan abilities till after more studying.

Yes but to actually activate Sage Mode great chakra reserves are needed.
Chakra reserves that Kabuto does not have without orochimaru's chakra
 

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Juugo Knows about sage chakra or what ever, and he said Oro only deactivated it....nuff said

No good sir. Read it again, juugo said Oro canceled DSM and TOOK BACK HIS CHAKRA. So Kabuto doesn't have Oro's chakra and abilities so he can't enter sage mode because you need a strong chakra. He had to use Oro's chakra to make his edo control stronger, I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't perform it. But he could still have Taka's abilities
 

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Yes but to actually activate Sage Mode great chakra reserves are needed.
Chakra reserves that Kabuto does not have without orochimaru's chakra

So all of sound 5, taka and his own is not enough?Right.......

anyway cause I'm not sure can you show me or point me to somewhere in the manga where it says you need alot?
 

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No good sir. Read it again, juugo said Oro canceled DSM and TOOK BACK HIS CHAKRA. So Kabuto doesn't have Oro's chakra and abilities so he can't enter sage mode because you need a strong chakra. He had to use Oro's chakra to make his edo control stronger, I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't perform it. But he could still have Taka's abilities

-_- no you need to read it closer. I just read it not 2minutes ago. When Kabuto absorbed oro's remains did he gain SM instantly from it? NO, DSM is Kabuto's ability that he had to learn not something he took from Oro, now please begone I don't have time for this again.
 

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@slaton02
So we can't have a civil discussion ? He lost his ability to enter DSM, wrap your mind around it. You need a strong chakra, Pa told that to Naruto. That's why Kabuto had to use Oro's chakra. What happened when Oro took back his chakra ? He lost all his snake-like characteristics, he reverted back to NORMAL. Not how he was before DSM. He can't enter DSM with his weak chakra
 

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So all of sound 5, taka and his own is not enough?Right.......

anyway cause I'm not sure can you show me or point me to somewhere in the manga where it says you need alot?

Kabuto lost Oro's chakra and abilities. Narutopedia's page on ''senjutsu'' said that fukusaku said that you need ''extreme chakra level'' to be able to enter sage mode. Chp 412, p11.
I don't think normal Kabuto has that..
 

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So we can't have a civil discussion ? He lost his ability to enter DSM, wrap your mind around it. You need a strong chakra, Pa told that to Naruto. That's why Kabuto had to use Oro's chakra. What happened when Oro took back his chakra ? He lost all his snake-like characteristics, he reverted back to NORMAL. Not how he was before DSM. He can't enter DSM with his weak chakra

I already was tryin to tell someone what happened and he wasn't getting it, It's draining really ad I don't have time for it again Read the restof my posts and others on this thread.
Juugo's dna,ect,ect,learnng,blah,ton of chakra,Oro is not needed, Juugo said Kabuto's power was untouched. That was the short version of thing I would say in this convo, read my other posts. Cause the manga made it clear if you read the fight and what Juugo said. I really don't care anymore if you wanna go against the manga and say he doesn't have it idc. If you agree idc. if you think oro has perfect DSM idc, good day sir.
 

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So all of sound 5, taka and his own is not enough?Right.......

anyway cause I'm not sure can you show me or point me to somewhere in the manga where it says you need alot?



there
 

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Juugo said Kabuto's chakra was untouched. Why is that a proof that he still has DSM ? I still stand by my point saying that he can't enter DSM anymore. You don't agree, that's fine by me. We'll probably see more of Kabuto in the future.
 

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Kabuto lost Oro's chakra and abilities. Narutopedia's page on ''senjutsu'' said that fukusaku said that you need ''extreme chakra level'' to be able to enter sage mode. Chp 412, p11.
I don't think normal Kabuto has that..

Yes but to actually activate Sage Mode great chakra reserves are needed.
Chakra reserves that Kabuto does not have without orochimaru's chakra

It said you need alot to draw opon natural energy, Juugo and his clan can do that themselves without large chakra and Kabuto use Juugo's dna for dsm. So, since Orochimaru only took his chakra out, Kabuto should still be able to use dsm. Juugo sayng Orochimaru took only his own chakra back is enough proof Kabuto can use dsm.
 
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