Kabuto is not #1

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Ok i have seen people rating kabuto as the strongest character.they only have one reason foe this edo tensei but people are forgetting that for edo tensei kabuto wud need huge preparation's before he cud use the technique.he wud need dna and dig graves+substitute body's.so in a situation where kabuto meet's an enemy unexpectedly he wud get beaten by opponent's like nagato and bm naruto in case i assume he wouldn't have edo simmmons.2nd the edo's strength shouldn't be added to kabuto's strenth because it's not his own strength.still with sage mode,sound 5 abilities and taka abilities+oro powers put's him on top 10 but again he is not number 1.madara,nagato,bm naruto are all stronger then him.
 

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Another Kabuto thread...

Why do you people keep on deciding what's not someones power, you just take what's shown as the users power. You can do the same for any character mokuton isn't Madara's power, rinnengan isn't Obito's power, sharringan isn't Kakshi's power and so on. Just because it's op doesn't make it not his, it's just a summoning jutsu, by your logic animal path is powerless.
 

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another kabuto thread...

Why do you people keep on deciding what's not someones power, you just take what's shown as the users power. You can do the same for any character mokuton isn't madara's power, rinnengan isn't obito's power, sharringan isn't kakshi's power and so on. Just because it's op doesn't make it not his, it's just a summoning jutsu, by your logic animal path is powerless.

even if edo tensei is a part of kabuto's strength it dosent mean he can alway's summon them because as i said before it take's huge preparation's.
 

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I don't see why people just hate on kabuto so much. Edo tensei is a summoning technique just like any other. Just like animal summons it requires a blood contract. Once this contract is fulfilled kabuto can use them just like any other summon. People always say that it takes time, but this is irrelevant since he already has it prepped.

On another note the other abilities are also his power. He has enough skill to master abilities not natural himself therefore they count as his own skills. If you going to take them away take away kakashi's sharingan, sasuke's ems, nagatos rinnegan, naruto's bijuu, Tobis senju DNA, madaras ems/ rinnegan/ mokuton, etc, etc.
 
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i don't see why people just hate on kabuto so much. Edo tensei is a summoning technique just like any other. Just like animal summons it requires a blood contract. Once this contract is fulfilled kabuto can use them just like any other summon. People always say that it takes time, but this is irrelevant since he already has it prepped.

On another note the other abilities are also his power. He has enough skill to master abilities not natural himself therefore they count as his own skills. If you going to take them away take away kakashi's sharingan, sasuke's ems, nagatos rinnegan, naruto's bijuu, tobis senju dna, madaras ems/ rinnegan/ mokuton, etc, etc.

ok.but under natural circumstances where kabuto just meet's an enemy and ha's no strong edo's he would loose.edo's like 7 sword shinobi man and asuma,dan will be no problems to strong opponent's.the only edo's who actually did anything were muu and 2nd muzukage excluding madara.other' were taken care of without too many problem's.
 

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Without Orochimaru's chakra he is nothing. With Orochimaru's chakra is he a bitch who uses a cowards jutsu. Hiding behind other shinobis powers, not his own. Personal summons are not part of personal strength, just like Gedo Mazo is not Obitos power. If you argue he should be number 1 because of his edo army, you're wrong. Gedo Mazo>Edo Army
 

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without orochimaru's chakra he is nothing. With orochimaru's chakra is he a bitch who uses a cowards jutsu. Hiding behind other shinobis powers, not his own. Personal summons are not part of personal strength, just like gedo mazo is not obitos power. If you argue he should be number 1 because of his edo army, you're wrong. Gedo mazo>edo army

see exactly my point.and kabuto cant do grave digging and dna collecting evry day.
 

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ok.but under natural circumstances where kabuto just meet's an enemy and ha's no strong edo's he would loose.edo's like 7 sword shinobi man and asuma,dan will be no problems to strong opponent's.the only edo's who actually did anything were muu and 2nd muzukage excluding madara.other' were taken care of without too many problem's.

Under 'natural' circmstances minato might loose because they didn't have time to pack kunai. Yet he always has kunai packed so the prep is irrelevant. The same goes for Kabuto, he has strong Edo tensei prepped, thats that.

So your honestly saying if Kabuto clapped his hands together and the stongest generation of 7 swordsman, asuma and dan popped out the it would make no difference in a fight? These are all strong opponents that can't be killed. At the very least they serve as excellent distraction tools for Kabuto who has demonstrated the ability to destroy someone if they drop their gaurd for an instant (think of when he chopped Itachi in half).

Also the Edo's killed countless alliance members - they weren't taken care of 'no fuss'. Serious effort and planning went into sealing Asuma and Zabuza alone.

see exactly my point.and kabuto cant do grave digging and dna collecting evry day.
Again this is completely irrelevant since he already has Edo's prepped. If he want Muu he doesn't have to go the the hidden stone first then grave rob. He already has Muu prepped and simply has to clap his hands together - there is no prep.

Without Orochimaru's chakra he is nothing. With Orochimaru's chakra is he a bitch who uses a cowards jutsu. Hiding behind other shinobis powers, not his own. Personal summons are not part of personal strength, just like Gedo Mazo is not Obitos power. If you argue he should be number 1 because of his edo army, you're wrong. Gedo Mazo>Edo Army
Just because you don't like the character doesn't mean that they aren't powerful. Edo Tensei is a jutsu just like any other jutsu in any other ninja's skill set. Sure summoning say Muu doesn't mean that Kabuto himself has dust release jutsu - but it does mean that he has the technique available to use if he wants to.

Also unless Gedo Mazo uses the dragon jutsu then it can't do anything to the Edo army - since they will revive. Gedo Mazo can't use the dragon jutsu unless someone else collaborates with it. So honestly I don't see where you think gedo mazo > edo army.
 
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Under 'natural' circmstances minato might loose because they didn't have time to pack kunai. Yet he always has kunai packed so the prep is irrelevant. The same goes for Kabuto, he has strong Edo tensei prepped, thats that.

So your honestly saying if Kabuto clapped his hands together and the stongest generation of 7 swordsman, asuma and dan popped out the it would make no difference in a fight? These are all strong opponents that can't be killed. At the very least they serve as excellent distraction tools for Kabuto who has demonstrated the ability to destroy someone if they drop their gaurd for an instant (think of when he chopped Itachi in half).

Also the Edo's killed countless alliance members - they weren't taken care of 'no fuss'. Serious effort and planning went into sealing Asuma and Zabuza alone.


Again this is completely irrelevant since he already has Edo's prepped. If he want Muu he doesn't have to go the the hidden stone first then grave rob. He already has Muu prepped and simply has to clap his hands together - there is no prep.

Yeah this guy is right here, summoning jutsu is just a form of space time ninjutsu, is it not? As were talking about Prime Kabuto he has his 38 Edos prepared. But your point about Minato shouldnt be there, the Kunai is not what initiates his jutsu. The mark on the Kunai does, and that mark can be placed on anything, as shown when he placed it on Bee
 

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Yeah this guy is right here, summoning jutsu is just a form of space time ninjutsu, is it not? As were talking about Prime Kabuto he has his 38 Edos prepared. But your point about Minato shouldnt be there, the Kunai is not what initiates his jutsu. The mark on the Kunai does, and that mark can be placed on anything, as shown when he placed it on Bee

I was just trying to make a point - I was going to say if Ten-Ten didn't prep her weapons but we all know Ten-Ten is useless regardless. I agree that Minato is not restricted to the kunai and it is in fact the seals on the kunai that activate FTG. But if he didn't have the kunai prepped it would make it harder for him since he would have to manually tag everything before being able to move round the battle field. But really it doesn't matter since it was just an example.
 

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People just be mad that kabuto roflstomps their favourite characters, Even without the need of edo tensei xd
 

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I was just trying to make a point - I was going to say if Ten-Ten didn't prep her weapons but we all know Ten-Ten is useless regardless. I agree that Minato is not restricted to the kunai and it is in fact the seals on the kunai that activate FTG. But if he didn't have the kunai prepped it would make it harder for him since he would have to manually tag everything before being able to move round the battle field. But really it doesn't matter since it was just an example.

Yeah i get what you mean :)
 

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Couldn't you make the point that Sasori shouldn't have the Third Kazekage puppet since it was destroyed, needed prep time to make it, and he wouldn't be making puppets on that level daily? IMO it doesn't work >.>
 
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