Kabuto and Obito vs Madara and Hashirama

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Battlefield: VoTE

Distance: Reasonable

Intel: Manga

Conditions: Madara is EMS is allow to summon Kurama. Obito is war arc status w/ Paths. Hashirama and Madara has seals

Restrictions: Certain Edo's - Edo Madara (duh), Akatsuki, Kages of the 5 reigns.
 

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Obito and Kabuto gets slaughtered.
 

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Doesn't Kabuto have the DNA of Shisui?
 

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Juubito--Meh/DSM Kabuto--Meh. RegObito--slaughtered/Reg-Kabuto butt-raped, then slaughtered.
 

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What are you talking about.
To simplify, If Hashirama and Madara fought against Juubito and DSM Kabuto, they would put up an acceptable fight. If Hashirama and Madara went against Regular war arc Obito and Kabuto, obi-kabu would be butt-raped brutally and then slaughtered
 

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Lol. Kabuto drags Obito down here. Team 2 would destroy them.
 

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To simplify, If Hashirama and Madara fought against Juubito and DSM Kabuto, they would put up an acceptable fight. If Hashirama and Madara went against Regular war arc Obito and Kabuto, obi-kabu would be butt-raped brutally and then slaughtered

No Juubito would solo no dif

Lol. Kabuto drags Obito down here. Team 2 would destroy them.

No he doesn't. Just because he doesn't have firepower doesn't make him useless. Obito will provide the firepower while Kabuto provides the versatility.
 

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Madara and Hashirama wreck them

--Obitos bijuus are getting slaughtered by PS-Kurama and SS, their DC and durability are leagues above the bijuus themselves as Hashirama proceeds to subdue all the bijuu afterwards through mokuryu, mokujin and myojinmon

--Hashirama can then proceed to send in KB, that would completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset, and can then set up the Flower Tree World which would bypass obitos kamui limit,,

--With the restrictions on Kabutos edos, none of them are standing a chance against the firepower of Madara or Hashirama, eiither one would wreck him completely, and his summons such as manda 2 arre also posing no threat at all,
 

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Madara and Hashirama wreck them

--Obitos bijuus are getting slaughtered by PS-Kurama and SS, their DC and durability are leagues above the bijuus themselves as Hashirama proceeds to subdue all the bijuu afterwards through mokuryu, mokujin and myojinmon

--Hashirama can then proceed to send in KB, that would completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset, and can then set up the Flower Tree World which would bypass obitos kamui limit,,

--With the restrictions on Kabutos edos, none of them are standing a chance against the firepower of Madara or Hashirama, eiither one would wreck him completely, and his summons such as manda 2 arre also posing no threat at all,

The Buijuus arent getting slaughter when they have everything they need to deal with it's Susanoo. 4tails and 6tails can provide Yōton and Corrosive combo to melt Susanoo, while 5 tails use its unrivaled strength/tackle to shatter it's loose defense. 7 tails provides the blinding sparks, and ability to maneuver with flight. 3 tail provides the Suiton reflection for CQC, 2 tails and force them to block with home seekers Katon-rats vis distraction. Kabuto can deal with Hashirama alone, w/ Mokuton poison and I am sure Manda 2 would get that kinds of supply with its venom, to shut down SS. Or Kabuto use Hashirama cells and merge with any Mokuton Hashirama has to offer

Even they they focus on beats its firepower, Kabuto can set up Sound Genjutsu to shut down Susanoo(Madara), Kurama, and Hashirama on top of it.

The minor Edos will still be perfect for backstab. Zabuza can use hidden mist on the ground, so they can only see only giant characters, Hanzo can have his summoning spray poison, which is large enough to reach Kurama, paralyzing and making it useless. Toroi can follow Kabuto perception and let a magnetic ninja tool at the right moment, connecting magnetism around their body. Dan bypasses all of Hashirama and Madara jutsus and takes over one of their bodies. The rest goes on when opponets best firepower goes down
 

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The Buijuus arent getting slaughter when they have everything they need to deal with it's Susanoo. 4tails and 6tails can provide Yōton and Corrosive combo to melt Susanoo, while 5 tails use its unrivaled strength/tackle to shatter it's loose defense. 7 tails provides the blinding sparks, and ability to maneuver with flight. 3 tail provides the Suiton reflection for CQC, 2 tails and force them to block with home seekers Katon-rats vis distraction.
being able to bust something isnt helpful when the bijuus dont have the durability to tank more than 2 PS slashes, let alone attacks from SS such as which matched
the bijuus were outright a PS slash that bisects mountaints and attacks from SS are too much for the bijuu since they are not tanking attacks of such magnitude, as they will get overwhelmed whilst hashirama procceeds to subdue them through his mokutons,

not to mention that hashiramas entire arsenal is a nightmare for the bijuu due to mokuton being able to and beeing able to restrain them

Kabuto can deal with Hashirama alone, w/ Mokuton poison and I am sure Manda 2 would get that kinds of supply with its venom, to shut down SS. Or Kabuto use Hashirama cells and merge with any Mokuton Hashirama has to offer
this is just funny, Kabuto and his summons are mere insects in front of SS, they are getting one-shotted by only one Chojo Kobetsu,
@bold - SS is never getting shut down by Kabuto, not to mention that Madara can casually throw in a PS slash to end kabuto and his manda 2 as well
Kabuto would not be able to use hashiramas SM since he clearly doesnt have it, and no mokutons are standing a chance against it
Even they they focus on beats its firepower, Kabuto can set up Sound Genjutsu to shut down Susanoo(Madara), Kurama, and Hashirama on top of it.
no, SS is not getting shut down,

The minor Edos will still be perfect for backstab. Zabuza can use hidden mist on the ground, so they can only see only giant characters, Hanzo can have his summoning spray poison, which is large enough to reach Kurama, paralyzing and making it useless. Toroi can follow Kabuto perception and let a magnetic ninja tool at the right moment, connecting magnetism around their body. Dan bypasses all of Hashirama and Madara jutsus and takes over one of their bodies. The rest goes on when opponets best firepower goes down
All of these attacks are compeltely useless since the scale of this battle is far too much for these edos,
they are mere fodder in comparison to madara and hashirama,
--kurama would be armored in PS so hanzos attacks are countered, as madara throws in a PS slash to immobilise him
--Kabuto and Obito dont really stand a chance, especially since kabutos good edos are restricted
 

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EMS Madara and sm Hashirama vs. the Obito who tagged Rikudou Madara and kabuto who fought ms and EMS user without Edo tenseing the NV?

I'm pretty sure team haxx takes this battle.
 

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Hashirama and Madara rape with little difficulty.
 

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being able to bust something isnt helpful when the bijuus dont have the durability to tank more than 2 PS slashes, let alone attacks from SS such as which matched
the bijuus were outright a PS slash that bisects mountaints and attacks from SS are too much for the bijuu since they are not tanking attacks of such magnitude, as they will get overwhelmed whilst hashirama procceeds to subdue them through his mokutons,

not to mention that hashiramas entire arsenal is a nightmare for the bijuu due to mokuton being able to and beeing able to restrain them



It is helpful the bust PS, considering this tech takes alot of energy to Madara, and a cool time to use Susanoo again. 2 PS can end, which is why I explained defenses that takes Madara's line of sight. SS didn't match anything. It had alot of arms to attack away while getting destroyed by PS-TBB.

P.S. doesn't have the same hit box of shockwave, it all comes from the tip, which is why it was confirm twice when he slash his opponents without using shortwaves, cause they are too close via Gokage and Hashirama.

this is just funny, Kabuto and his summons are mere insects in front of SS, they are getting one-shotted by only one Chojo Kobetsu,
@bold - SS is never getting shut down by Kabuto, not to mention that Madara can casually throw in a PS slash to end kabuto and his manda 2 as well
Kabuto would not be able to use hashiramas SM since he clearly doesnt have it, and no mokutons are standing a chance against it

no, SS is not getting shut down,

No Manda 2 isn't a bug compare to SS. I had had a discussion breaking down his size[ ].

Madara will be focus on Obito's firepower, even then he isn't going to do that since he will hit Hashirama too.

I didn't say Kabuto can use Hashirama's SM. I said he can use his cells to merge with his Mokuton.

All of these attacks are compeltely useless since the scale of this battle is far too much for these edos,
they are mere fodder in comparison to madara and hashirama,
--kurama would be armored in PS so hanzos attacks are countered, as madara throws in a PS slash to immobilise him
--Kabuto and Obito dont really stand a chance, especially since kabutos good edos are restricted

Sound Genjutsu isnt useless since it will cover the whole field

Dan jutsu is untouchable/intangibility so it isn't useless and 1 shots.

P.S does not cover Kurama's mouth nor nostrils so it isn't countering poison with it.
 

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It is helpful the bust PS, considering this tech takes alot of energy to Madara, and a cool time to use Susanoo again. 2 PS can end, which is why I explained defenses that takes Madara's line of sight. SS didn't match anything. It had alot of arms to attack away while getting destroyed by PS-TBB.

P.S. doesn't have the same hit box of shockwave, it all comes from the tip, which is why it was confirm twice when he slash his opponents without using shortwaves, cause they are too close via Gokage and Hashirama.



No Manda 2 isn't a bug compare to SS. I had had a discussion breaking down his size[ ].

Madara will be focus on Obito's firepower, even then he isn't going to do that since he will hit Hashirama too.

I didn't say Kabuto can use Hashirama's SM. I said he can use his cells to merge with his Mokuton.



Sound Genjutsu isnt useless since it will cover the whole field

Dan jutsu is untouchable/intangibility so it isn't useless and 1 shots.

P.S does not cover Kurama's mouth nor nostrils so it isn't countering poison with it.

Madara uses Izanami on Kabuto's snake ass, places him in a Genjutsu to end Edo Tensei, and unlike Itachi he chops off his head if need be. I doubt Madara will need to waste an eye though. But just to show there's always that option.
 

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Obito and Kabuto are good but there completely out-matched. The Buddah has hands the size of Bijuu there Bijuudama barrages would get flicked like a booger. Madara and Kyuubi obliterates Kabuto. Shinsuusenju and Hashirama obliterates Obito.

To simplify, If Hashirama and Madara fought against Juubito and DSM Kabuto, they would put up an acceptable fight. If Hashirama and Madara went against Regular war arc Obito and Kabuto, obi-kabu would be butt-raped brutally and then slaughtered
Juubidama would end them.
 

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It is helpful the bust PS, considering this tech takes alot of energy to Madara, and a cool time to use Susanoo again. 2 PS can end, which is why I explained defenses that takes Madara's line of sight. SS didn't match anything. It had no arms to attack away while getting destroyed by PS-TBB.
@bold - that was chojo kobetsu (an attack of SS) that was matched by 11 PS-infused TBB
and what do you mean it didnt match anything, the next scan we see it literally lifts kurama up like a puppy

--you are assuming that madara would just stand there, and let the bijuu form a TBB sufficient enough to succumb his PS,, his PS slashes are already fast enough to begin with it, as the shockwaves would completely pierce the bijuu sand knock them down, madara needs to literally swing his PS blade once annd the entire mist is blown away, on top o of the fact that zabuza has never shown the mist any way near enough to overcome the levels of PS
P.S. doesn't have the same hit box of shockwave, it all comes from the tip, which is why it was confirm twice when he slash his opponents without using shortwaves, cause they are too close via Gokage and Hashirama.
He doesnt need to rely on shockwaves if he is close enough since the slash enough still has enough force to bisect mountains and thats more than enough to overwhelm the bijuu

No Manda 2 isn't a bug compare to SS. I had had a discussion breaking down his size[ ].
I meant '' insects '' in terms of firepower and durability,, its not surviving an attack from either SS or PS-Kurama
Madara will be focus on Obito's firepower, even then he isn't going to do that since he will hit Hashirama too.
thats not happening since they would be using directional attacks,

Sound Genjutsu isnt useless since it will cover the whole field

Dan jutsu is untouchable/intangibility so it isn't useless and 1 shots.

P.S does not cover Kurama's mouth nor nostrils so it isn't countering poison with it.
@bold - White Rage has no way near the range or the time limit to counter the whole field thats fan fic,
Mugen Onsa is even funnier, its noot doing anything to either of the two, not to mention that one has the EMS and tthe other has SM itself, and they wont be stupid enough to just stand there and let kabuto attack them,,
as for the dan jutsu i dont know how it exactly works but it does require hannd seals and he is simply getting caught in the vast AOE of the onslaught before he manages to steal someones soul,,

and the PS can then again use the slash agaiin to blow the poison away,
 

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Madara uses Izanami on Kabuto's snake ass, places him in a Genjutsu to end Edo Tensei, and unlike Itachi he chops off his head if need be. I doubt Madara will need to waste an eye though. But just to show there's always that option.

An option to someone who already counter Izanami. Cool



@bold - that was chojo kobetsu (an attack of SS) that was matched by 11 PS-infused TBB
and what do you mean it didnt match anything, the next scan we see it literally lifts kurama up like a puppy


It wasn't matching 11 PS-TBB, it was cut through like butter. Madara explained that he isn't able to catch anything w/ Mokuton w/ PS blades. It simply has more arms then 11 TBB, thus can waste arms being destroyed while attacking Kurama. The context I explained was talking about firepower comparison. Your making seem the fist has fire power as a TBB.

--you are assuming that madara would just stand there, and let the bijuu form a TBB sufficient enough to succumb his PS,, his PS slashes are already fast enough to begin with it, as the shockwaves would completely pierce the bijuu sand knock them down, madara needs to literally swing his PS blade once annd the entire mist is blown away, on top o of the fact that zabuza has never shown the mist any way near enough to overcome the levels of PS

No I didn't nor did I use TBB in my argument. Agree w/ the mist, while other characters go underground and backstabs when the moment he swung the first slash, thus delaying his next attack (via Hanzo)

He doesnt need to rely on shockwaves if he is close enough since the slash enough still has enough force to bisect mountains and thats more than enough to overwhelm the bijuu

Not effective when 3tails can produce Suiton to reflect attacks like a mirror, thus where they collide with the mirrored targets.

I meant '' insects '' in terms of firepower and durability,, its not surviving an attack from either SS or PS-Kurama

It isn't, unless one argue Manda II shares the same feats as Kabuto's other snake summons. As for SS all it can provide to pounding him to death. Manda II still bite down SS as his life depends on it, before being pound to death

thats not happening since they would be using directional attacks,

Not sure what your talking about here.

@bold - White Rage has no way near the range or the time limit to counter the whole field thats fan fic,
Mugen Onsa is even funnier, its noot doing anything to either of the two, not to mention that one has the EMS and tthe other has SM itself, and they wont be stupid enough to just stand there and let kabuto attack them,,
as for the dan jutsu i dont know how it exactly works but it does require hannd seals and he is simply getting caught in the vast AOE of the onslaught before he manages to steal someones soul,,

and the PS can then again use the slash agaiin to blow the poison away,

... Where did I mention White Rage?

-No whats funny is your arguments are already focus on something else, so Sound Genjutsu is perfect to use as back stab. Being an EMS and SM doesn't secrue from any Genjutsu. Kabuto, closing his eyes from Sharingan Genjutsu debunks this claim, while Kabuto put both MS + EMS in a genjutsu debunks this claims also

Why does hand seals matter, when he is fighting 6 fire power characters+Obito and Kabuto's versatility added on to it. And now their focus is on Dan weaving a 2 hand signs[ ] or the fact the has to be in the shockwaves range? Overatting the shockwave like it covers the whole floor. Especially when the targets will be mostly Buijuu height.

Poison just needs to be inhale just a little bit to be lethal so who cares if he blows it away after.
 
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