Kabuto and healthy Itachi vs Nagato

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Silly thread, the answer is obvious, Nagato loses.

And we don't actually know if Kabuto can control Madara, since he never tried to do it.
 

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whats his counter for ct??? and u said he can neutralize a few paths so whats a few??? 3, jiraya whooped 3 kabuto facing all 6 gets stomped neg diff and kabuto cant neutralize any of them because deva path can just repel him....how can kabuto fight the invisible chameleon??? how can kabuto defeat the dog??? he cant

Sound Genjutsu and Hakugeki, or keep them down with Kidōmaru's spider threads and take a few out with Kimimaro's bone field Jutsu.
He can sense the chameleon.
Manda II keeps the dog busy with ease.

I'm not saying DSM Kabuto can beat Nagato/Pain, but you're underestimating him so much it's silly.

OT: Kabuto and Itachi mid dif
 

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Itachi has only shown visual genjitsu, and Nagato is not susceptibel by that. He is weak against genjutsu that affects the other senses.

Finger and crow genjustu is not visual.

All itachi's genjustu a affects the senses

Susanoo is an absolute win
 

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we have never seen visual genjutsu work on nagato....kabuto's sound genjutsu could work but even temari was able to take that shit and itachi even was able to move and activate susano despite tayuya'a sound genjutsu causing paralysis
Can't dignify this, visual genjustu would be the worst for Nagato.

He has shared vision, which is even worst for nagato's case.

Even Jiraiya said that genjustu was his only chance in beating him
 

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Sound Genjutsu and Hakugeki, or keep them down with Kidōmaru's spider threads and take a few out with Kimimaro's bone field Jutsu.
He can sense the chameleon.
Manda II keeps the dog busy with ease.

I'm not saying DSM Kabuto can beat Nagato/Pain, but you're underestimating him so much it's silly.

OT: Kabuto and Itachi mid dif

No need for all this....

DSM Kabuto is easily above Nagato

He soloes
 

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Sound Genjutsu and Hakugeki, or keep them down with Kidōmaru's spider threads and take a few out with Kimimaro's bone field Jutsu.
He can sense the chameleon.
Manda II keeps the dog busy with ease.

I'm not saying DSM Kabuto can beat Nagato/Pain, but you're underestimating him so much it's silly.

OT: Kabuto and Itachi mid dif

man i like kabuto a lot he is one of my fav but i like nagato a little bit more because he's a little bit more powerful...im not underestimating kabuto at all i just acknowledged what he can do against nagato and thats stall thats it...

u say manda 2 can handle the dog wrong because whatever damage the dog takes it multiplies and nagato has more than just the dog as summons so your point is...

ct solo's easily, it took rasenshuriken(destruction on a molecular level), a tailed beast bomb, and yasaka megatama to destroy ct...itachi can use magatama but thats only 1/3 of the damage it took to destroy ct and kabuto lacks any explosive power to help in that endeavor at all...and it was after itachi, kcm naruto and bee destroyed ct that itachi had an opening to catch nagato(kabuto) off guard to be hit by totsuka...nagato can easily repel totsuka it will take some extreme planning and strategic set-ups for itachi to successfully land totsuka and this is if nagato just doesnt use ct to end the battle from the jump
 

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Finger and crow genjustu is not visual.

All itachi's genjustu a affects the senses

Susanoo is an absolute win

susano is chakra it will be absorbed

and only sound genjutsu has ever affected the peins and even temari was able to withstand tayuya's sound genjutsu that kabuto uses and even itachi was able to fight the paralysis of the sound genjutsu and move and activate susano and protect sasuke so if temari and itachi can fight the paralysis then nagato surely can
 

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Can't dignify this, visual genjustu would be the worst for Nagato.

He has shared vision, which is even worst for nagato's case.

Even Jiraiya said that genjustu was his only chance in beating him

visual genjutsu wont work on nagato

and jiraya was saying the sound genjutsu was the only thing that will work on the peins...so if u are going to tell the truth tell the whole truth
 

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susano is chakra it will be absorbed

and only sound genjutsu has ever affected the peins and even temari was able to withstand tayuya's sound genjutsu that kabuto uses and even itachi was able to fight the paralysis of the sound genjutsu and move and activate susano and protect sasuke so if temari and itachi can fight the paralysis then nagato surely can


No preta can't absorb susanoo.

While Nagato was being controlled, he was able to absorb lariat and rasengan.

But, when Susanoo hit, Nagato proved that he can't absorb it.

Don't know what this paralyzed hypothetical of what Nagato can and can't do, but jiraiya's paralyzingly genjustu is enough to

Get his paths stabbed by those swords.


So everything you just posted is wrong
 

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No preta can't absorb susanoo.

While Nagato was being controlled, he was able to absorb lariat and rasengan.

But, when Susanoo hit, Nagato proved that he can't absorb it.

Don't know what this paralyzed hypothetical of what Nagato can and can't do, but jiraiya's paralyzingly genjustu is enough to

Get his paths stabbed by those swords.


So everything you just posted is wrong

susano came out of nowhere and attack nagato when he wasnt looking and was occupied with blowing killer bee's face off and ripping naruto's soul out so what happened is irrelevant...the fact that madara said he couldnt use preta because he was in his susano shows preta can absorb susano, the fact that to obtain perfect susano u have to stabilize the chakra should tell u susano is made of chakra and preta absorbs chakra so...

ma and pa's sound genjutsu is not kabuto's(tayuya's) sound genjutsu, get that shit out of your head....and tayuya's sound genjutsu has flaws in it, it paralyzes but not completely since i itachi was able to move and activate susano and protect sasuke which proves kabuto's sound genjutsu is weak...

and ct solo's anyway
 

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visual genjutsu wont work on nagato

and jiraya was saying the sound genjutsu was the only thing that will work on the peins...so if u are going to tell the truth tell the whole truth

How about you stop lying

Because nowhere in the manga did it say, Nagato isn't affected by visual genjustu.

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How about you stop lying

Because nowhere in the manga did it say, Nagato isn't affected by visual genjustu.

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how bout u stop lying, becuase nowhere in the manga does it say preta cant absorb susano...
 

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Can't dignify this, visual genjustu would be the worst for Nagato.

He has shared vision, which is even worst for nagato's case.

Even Jiraiya said that genjustu was his only chance in beating him

visual genjustu hits 1 path & they all are affected ?

how bout u stop lying, becuase nowhere in the manga does it say preta cant absorb susano...

I think it could be like a struggle or tug of war with preta vs susano'o
depending on who would be currently stronger?
 

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susano came out of nowhere and attack nagato when he wasnt looking and was occupied with blowing killer bee's face off and ripping naruto's soul out so what happened is irrelevant...the fact that madara said he couldnt use preta because he was in his susano shows preta can absorb susano, the fact that to obtain perfect susano u have to stabilize the chakra should tell u susano is made of chakra and preta absorbs chakra so...

ma and pa's sound genjutsu is not kabuto's(tayuya's) sound genjutsu, get that shit out of your head....and tayuya's sound genjutsu has flaws in it, it paralyzes but not completely since i itachi was able to move and activate susano and protect sasuke which proves kabuto's sound genjutsu is weak...

and ct solo's anyway

A load of assumptions and false statements with no manga sequence to back your claim.

Nagato was distracted, yet he absorbed rasengan while pulling naruto's soul and was able to use his sensing skills to stop, absorb bee all at the same time.

Your excuse is weak

The manga just proved that, you can't preta Susanoo.

Given that totsukya is a spiritual weapon and NOT CHAKRA, it will seal up your ct and Nagato all under one panel.

Get serious, itachi's design was to destroy Nagato
 
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