KA is useless in uchiha and hyuga

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As we saw when danzo used KA on mifune, the only thing it took for mifune to get out of the genjutsu was to be aware he was within a genjutsu and maybe releasing it.

But to use a MS technique such as KA, the user has to gather chakra in the eye, but against an uchiha or hyuga that would be like giving them the headsup since the can see the flow of chakra and they would find out the user of KA is planning something and also shisui was widely known across the world so his technique is not a secret, just like when sasuke tried to use amaterasu on juubito and juubito forsaw it. Then again if KA is succesfully casted the user would just have to take a look a his own body to see his chakra is running abnormally and realize he´s within a genjutsu.

I´m not saying all uchiha and hyuga can break out of KA but there are a few ones of this two clans that are likely to do it.
 

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That was Danzo's KA usage.

Shisui was going to KA the Uchiha Clan, tells you something, doesn't it? And if what you said were true, Kakashi wouldn't have got caught in Tsukuyomi, or Sasuke for that matter.
 

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Itachi was 100% convinced it will work on EMS sasuke and will forever bind him into being a loyal servant of konoha

and that was being casted by a puny crow
 

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That was Danzo's KA usage.

Shisui was going to KA the Uchiha Clan, tells you something, doesn't it?
like i said not all would be able to pulll it off just a few skilled ones, and they would eventually find out they were under a genjutsu
 

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That was Danzo's KA usage.

Shisui was going to KA the Uchiha Clan, tells you something, doesn't it? And if what you said were true, Kakashi wouldn't have got caught in Tsukuyomi, or Sasuke for that matter.
What he said
 

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when you are alone its over but back then Ao notice KA so if someone with dojutsu is with you you can be saved
 

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Itachi wanted to use KA on Sasuke so no, you're wrong.
 

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That was Danzo's KA usage.

Shisui was going to KA the Uchiha Clan, tells you something, doesn't it? And if what you said were true, Kakashi wouldn't have got caught in Tsukuyomi, or Sasuke for that matter.
dude we´re talking about KA not tsukuyomi, tsukuyomi contrary to KA is really hard to break, KA was easily released just by finding out you we´re under its effects, and also there´s a reason why shisui fail to cast it on all people even if they didnt find out themselves, someone else would have told them they were under genjutsu, shisui plans wer gonna fail anyway
 

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That was Danzo's KA usage.

Shisui was going to KA the Uchiha Clan, tells you something, doesn't it? And if what you said were true, Kakashi wouldn't have got caught in Tsukuyomi, or Sasuke for that matter.

This guy jus debunked your theory plus once in a genjutsu the user can manipulate what the person affected could perceive so jus looking at their own chakra flow shouldn't work
 

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once you´re in the genjutsu you may need a partner to wake you from KA, but shisui was widely known because of his transpotation and KA, so if you have intel which is really easy considering he was famous for that and you perceive shisui accumulating chakra in his eyes, a skilled hyuga or uchiha wouldnt fall for that so easily.

Besides itachi was a great planner but the plan to use amaterasu on tobi didnt work, the plan to make a sasuke strong with hatred and make him a hero of leaf failed terribly, he was a good planner but he also screwed up big time with sasuke, that means that not because itachi planned it that is gonna be sucessfull.
 
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the KA itachi's crow used on edo itachi can't be resisted because the command is instant unlike danzo's version.
 

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the KA itachi's crow used on edo itachi can't be resisted because the command is instant unlike danzo's version.

But the crow already had the chakra nessesary to use it, when you´re in the middle of a battle, you dont bring your most powerful technique first, shisui probably would use other techniques that require less chakra and put less strain in his body and if he considers he needs KA he would have to accumulate chakra in his eyes and that for someboby who can see chakra flow is a headsup of what´s to come.

Besides as you know a normal MS user suffers great strain in his body , it´s not a technique you can spam right and left
 
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But the crow already had the chakra nessesary to use it, when you´re in the middle of a battle, you dont bring your most powerful technique first, shisui probably would use other techniques that require less chakra and put less strain in his body and if he considers he needs KA he would have to accumulate chakra in his eyes and that for someboby who can see chakra flow is a headsup of what´s to come.

Besides as you know a normal MS user suffers great strain in his body , it´s not a technique you can spam right and left

It doesn't need to be spammed KA is a one shot technique. Once it hits, it's over. Besides shisui's regular genjutsu were also extremely powerful. This was shown when he faced danzo, Danzo was forced to use izanagi to escape shisui's basic 3T genjutsu by comparison danzo easily saw through and broke sasuke's MS genjutsu.
 

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It doesn't need to be spammed KA is a one shot technique. Once it hits, it's over. Besides shisui's regular genjutsu were also extremely powerful. This was shown when he faced danzo, Danzo was forced to use izanagi to escape shisui's basic 3T genjutsu by comparison danzo easily saw through and broke sasuke's MS genjutsu.
Yes once you have already prepared KA is a oneshot, but first you have to activate MS and then accumulate chakra.

And second you´re basing your comment in semi-canon filler, but if you take that filler and if you also take your comment into account, shisui should have been able to activate instantly MS and oneshoot with KA even if danzo used izanagi, shisui should have won the fight if you take into account what you said but it was the other way around.

Yes it´s a oneshoot technique but once is prepared which takes time and if you have intel it´s even harder which is my point. Remember an ms user is not an ems user, using ms for shisui should have had a great toll on his chakra and body as he didnt have senju dna unlike danzo.
 
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Yes once you have already prepared KA is a oneshot, but first you have to activate MS and then accumulate chakra.

And second you´re basing your comment in semi-canon filler, but if you take that filler and if you also take your comment into account, shisui should have been able to activate instantly MS and oneshoot with KA even if danzo used izanagi, shisui should have won the fight if you take into account what you said but it was the other way around.

Yes it´s a oneshoot technique but once is prepared which takes time and if you have intel it´s even harder which is my point.

I suppose so. Every technique has a weakness after all. I guess you do have a point
 
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