K11 vs. Kage Bodyguards

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Naruto - Pre RS
Sai - War Ark
Sakura - Pre War Ark

Choji - Pre War Ark
Ino - War Ark
Shikamaru - War Ark

Neji - War Ark
Lee - War Ark
Tenten -War Ark

Kiba - War Ark
Shino - War Ark
Hinata - War Ark

Kage Bodyguards: War Ark
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Location: Uchiha District for Elite and Konoha Gates for Others


Team K11 Elite:

-Neji
-Lee
-Shino
-Shikamaru
-Sai
-Choji

Team K11 Non Elite:

-Tenten
-Sakura
-Hinata
-Kiba
-Naruto
-Ino

Team Kage Bodyguards Elite:

-Darui
-Torune
-Kitsuchi
-Kankuro
-Temari

Team Kage Bodyguards Non Elite:

-Fu
-Chojuro
-Ao
-Kurotsuchi
-Cee
 

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Kitsuchi was not a bodyguard. Akatssuchi was.

Making Sakura and Chouji pre war ark makes the battle favorable for bodyguards. Bodyguards win, but with about high diff since some k11 can match even the elite bodyguards and they have better teamwork.
 

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K11 win this even with Choji and Sakura not being War Arc versions. Nobody except Darui poses a significant threat and Neji alone gives him a good fight. With the addition of Lee, Choji, and Kiba (along with Ino and Sakura acting as medical support) K11 take this mid diff.
 

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The Kage guards destroys them. They stand no chance. Low-mid difficulty

Kitsuchi arguably solos with Mountain Sandwich. It swallowed Jubi. None of them are surviving that considering they don't have Raiton and even if they did, not on the scale of the Gedo Mazo to destroy such a huge and powerful Doton technique like that. He literally can solo all of them. Thats sad man.
 

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The Kage guards destroys them. They stand no chance. Low-mid difficulty

Kitsuchi arguably solos with Mountain Sandwich. It swallowed Jubi. None of them are surviving that considering they don't have Raiton and even if they did, not on the scale of the Gedo Mazo to destroy such a huge and powerful Doton technique like that. He literally can solo all of them. Thats sad man.
Lol Yeah because he doesn't outright states that he needs time to knead chakra for the Jutsu which takes a while
 

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Lol Yeah because he doesn't outright states that he needs time to knead chakra for the Jutsu which takes a while
Kitsuchi was exhausted and had already been fighting for two days, without the aid of Narutos chakra at that point too. Fresh Kitsuchi used it right after Gedo appeared in Daruis divsion: .

So my point still stands. Kitsuchi arguably solos them.
 

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Kitsuchi was exhausted and had already been fighting for two days, without the aid of Narutos chakra at that point too. Fresh Kitsuchi used it right after Gedo appeared in Daruis divsion: .
Not an excuse especially when he used the technique. If not, he wouldn't have used it in the first place. He outright stated chakra needs to be kneaded for it so there's nothing to talk about here.

Uhh no..The GM appeared here Page 16 of 536 and even battled Choji and Choza while Kitsuchi used the technique here after a while. I wonder how that's quicker when it was almost the same time as the Juubi's case

So my point still stands. Kitsuchi arguably solos them.
This Joke doesn't stand Lol
 

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Not an excuse especially when he used the technique. If not, he wouldn't have used it in the first place. He outright stated chakra needs to be kneaded for it so there's nothing to talk about here.

Uhh no..The GM appeared here Page 16 of 536 and even battled Choji and Choza while Kitsuchi used the technique here after a while. I wonder how that's as soon as it appeared when it was almost the same time as the Juubi's case



This Joke doesn't stand Lol
Chakra needs to be kneaded for every technique (excluding Taijutsu) so what the hell is your point here? Yes Kakashi kneads the chakra for Raikiri, Naruto kneads the chakra for Rasengan, shinobi knead chakra to walk on water, sensory etc so again, what is your point? If you have been fighting for 2 days without rest or just exhausted in general then kneading chakra (depending on your chakra control level) will be difficult to do. Kitsuchi would have had to been very careful kneading his chakra because he was already low on it and as you know (or you should) kneading too much or too little chakra will cause a technique to fail altogether. The ratio has to be perfect for it to work and all techniques have their own set ratios. He had to be careful and not use so much that it would kill him but also not use too little and the technique failed completely.

They didn't battle for "a while" you're over exaggerating to make your point seem stronger. Choji and Chouza ran up and punched it, got blown back, Kitsuchi used Mountain Sandwich. Just like that. The only reason he didn't use it sooner was most likely because Choji and Chouza were in the cross fire.

Edit: We can still disucess this if you want but regardless, it does not change the fact the Konoha 11 gets stomped bad, which I think you agree, do you?
 
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This guy is seriously trying to argue this point when it's clear. "What the hell is my point" when you can't even understand something that's clear.

- Kitsuchi outright states that he needs time to knead chakra for the Jutsu which takes a while as we saw he used it right after Neji died which was a while later

- Being exhausted is irrelevant. If not, he wouldn't have used it in the first place. He outright stated chakra needs to be kneaded for it so there's nothing to talk about here. If he was exhausted, we won't have seen it. Are you telling me being exhausted was the reason why he resorted to kneading chakra? Dude says he can use it but he needs to knead the chakra.

- Choji and Choza battled the GM but as soon as the GM appeared, Kitsuchi didn't use that technique straightway. Not to mention this doesn't support your point considering we saw the technique a while after the Gm had appeared. Never was it used right away.

- No evidence that being exhausted was the reason for taking such a while for kneading chakra. That's nonsense when he never notes or hints at that to be the reason. Are you saying being exhausted made him knead chakra slowly? He kneaded the chakra and it took a while.

- Cross fire doesn't save your point because you don't have evidence that he wasn't kneading chakra during that period. He didn't use it as soon as the GM came..Look how far away from Choza he is which is the more reason why he could have even used it then.
 

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First off Kitsuchi isn't a kage bodyguard. Secondly Kitsuchi isn't soloing the K11 as I'm sure gated Lee escapes the range while Kiba can drill through the rock. Not sure why this thread even turned into Kitsuchi VS K11.

OT: First let's list the fighters from both teams in order from strongest to weakest.

K11
1. Lee
2. Neji
3. Kiba
4. Sai
5. Naruto
6. Shino
7. Shikamaru
8. Chouji
9. Hinata
10. Sakura
11. Ino
12. Tenten

Now the kage bodyguards:
1. Darui
2. Temari
3. Kankuro
4. Chojuro
5. Kurotsuchi
6. Torune
7. Fu
8. Cee
9. Akatsuchi
10. Ao

Clearly the kage bodyguards are outnumbered and the last two are kind of featless. I do think that Temari with her AoE can take out a large number of K11 as can Lee do the same to the kage bodyguards with his speed. Depending on how many people Cee can effect with his genjutsu, he may become a very important asset to the kage bodyguards especially due to his sensory and medic skills. If Fu uses mind transfer on Ino, can he use mind transfer again through Ino because after all, Ino can use mind transfer as well so if Fu controls Ino, it stands to reason he can use it again which allows him to gain control of a key member of K11 such as Neji while he is rotating.
 
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