Juubito > Juudara (Theory + Evidence)

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PLEASE READ!
Well, how do I start? I am kinda tired typing this at 4 a.m. in the morning and don't really feel like typing a lot like in my other threads. All I can say is that Juubito's staff is IDENTICAL to the Sage's, while Juudara's has a different shape and form. He may have the coat, but that's only clothing, while the staff it's an actual weapon.

Juubito's staff has the sun.
Juudara's has the moon.
Therefore


Juubito's staff > Juudara's staff
Juudara's clothing > Juubito's clothing.
STILL
Weapons > Clothing
And since
Juubito's Weapons > Muubito's weapons
Juubito > Muubito

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Now, Madara's looks completely different.
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Soon > Moon
In both real life and in the manga.


In case you didn't get it, just look at the shape of the top of the staffs.
Juubito's staff has the Sun and Juudara's the moon's.
Anyway, that was it. Thank you for reading.

 
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They both have the Different ends of the Staff
 

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Hagoromo has two sides to his staff. Sun and Moon

Obito had the sun part, and Madara has the moon.


Madara is more powerful; he had all of the bijuu aside for Yin Kurama, making him more complete.

Not only that but he also possesses Hashirama's senjutsu and Mokuton.
 

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did you even notice the other end of the sages staff which looks exactly like madaras version
 

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Are you purposely ignoring the other side of the Sage's staff or something? The
Sage's staff is a two headed staff with both the sun and the moon. In other words,
a combination of both Madara's and Obito's staff.
 
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Hagoromo has two sides to his staff. Sun and Moon

Obito had the sun part, and Madara has the moon.


Madara is more powerful; he had all of the bijuu aside for Yin Kurama, making him more complete.

Not only that but he also possesses Hashirama's senjutsu and Mokuton.

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dude lol they both have one end of the staff lmao and you forgot to mention kamui
 

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Harogomo has both madara n obitos staff he has both of them combined. The reason obito n madara only have one end of it is because obito had only one rinnegan in the left eye. And madara has his in the right eye. If they had both eyes the staff will then change . U must be tired if you never noticed harogomo staff which is both madara n obito combined goto bed man.
 

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Hagoromo has two sides to his staff. Sun and Moon

Obito had the sun part, and Madara has the moon.


Madara is more powerful; he had all of the bijuu aside for Yin Kurama, making him more complete.

Not only that but he also possesses Hashirama's senjutsu and Mokuton.

Fixed the thread. Now I made it even better and it's based on very good logic.
 

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That pic of madadara that you just downloaded isn't legit in real manga he also got the sun part and hogoromo has the moon part in his staff too... Hmmm moron lol
 

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Fixed the thread. Now I made it even better and it's based on very good logic.

Never in the manga did it state that sun beats moon. It says that their equal

And I still don't see how you didn't acknowledge Madara having a more complete Juubi than Obito. That alone dictates that Madara is the superior jinchuriki.

But if that's not enough, he also possesses Senjutsu which means he can better defend himself against it now unlike Obito.
 

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That pic of madadara that you just downloaded isn't legit in real manga he also got the sun part and hogoromo has the moon part in his staff too... Hmmm moron lol

Did you even read the thread at all? I didn't say anything that has to do with your silly comment.
Also, you dumb boy, that picture has the real staff of Madara, and not just that, but it is a real Manga picture that has simply been colored.
 

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Never in the manga did it state that sun beats moon. It says that their equal

And I still don't see how you didn't acknowledge Madara having a more complete Juubi than Obito. That alone dictates that Madara is the superior jinchuriki.

But if that's not enough, he also possesses Senjutsu which means he can better defend himself against it now unlike Obito.
No, they said Ying and Yang are equal, not the Moon and the Sun. In fact, that was an important topic in Naruto part 1 and it was proven that the Sun was more powerful (re-read part 1). Anyway, that's not what's important right now, to answer your second point; Madara is actually missing a huge deal of Bijuus because they're inside of Naruto. Juubito was only missing 2 Bijuus, but Juudara is missing like 30% - 40% of each, which is a lot more energy missing from Juudara than the 2 Bijuus that Juubito was missing.
 

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Damn people. The fact he is obvious right - in a certain way - is a good sign. I don't know why the butthurt. You could be butthurt that many people already came up with this theory. It is old. Nothing new aside from Naruto and Sasuke obtaining the symbol of a sun and moon representing the Sages two ends of his staff.
 

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No, they said Ying and Yang are equal, not the Moon and the Sun. In fact, that was an important topic in Naruto part 1 and it was proven that the Sun was more powerful (re-read Part 1). Anyway, that's not what's important right now; to answer your second point, Madara is actually missing a huge deal of Bijuus because they're inside of Naruto.

He still has more than Obito had. Obito only had a fraction of the Hachibi's power from the tentacle and Kurama's power form Gin and Kin.

Current Madara has about 40% Kurama and 90% Hachibi.


and Yin and Yang is light and dark. Sun and Moon are light and dark.

In the manga, Moon represents Yin and Sun represents Yang

But I wasn't referring to that. Based on Hagoromo's story, the duel between Indra and Ashura ended in a tie.

Also Naruto himself stated that he wouldn't have been able to defeat Sasuke even though he manged to defeat Pain, and before that he told Sasuke that if they fought they would surely both die. It's balance.

Sun is not greater than Moon, nor is Moon greater than Sun. Night and Day are two sides of one coin.
 
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It hasn't been confirmed that son > moon, as that would mean that Naruto/Ashura is/was stronger than Sasuke/Indra.

On top of that, Madara has a more stabilized jin form.
 

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So much fail. Juubidara is more complete /thread
No, he isn't. He's missing about 30% of chakra from each Bijuu (since they're inside Naruto). Juubito was missing 2 Tailed Beasts making them about equal, and if logic is applied, Juubito is stronger than Juudara.
 
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