Juubi: Relationship with Toad-Snake-Slug possible?

[Bogard]

Since the moment i heard Juubi was composed on

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, i quickly made a relationship between Sennin Mode and the Juubi. It seems that Tailed Beast in general are made of natural energy which also explains why their chakra is considered as almost infinite. It's proven by the fact that Kyubi told Naruto to buy time, the time

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necessary to enter BM again. On the other hand, Gyuki told Hachibi that he needed time

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after tanking his own Tailed Beast Bomb, probably meaning that with time, he could recharge himself what we've seen

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We know that Mont Myoboku is a place where you can train yourself in sennin art, a very difficult art to master since by a slight mistake you can turn to frog. Another place where you can train yourself to aquire natural energy is Ryuchi cave affiliated with snakes, place where Kabuto learned how to use his own Sennin mode under the direction of the

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. Now this is only a supposition but Shikkotsu forest was also

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along with Myoboku and Ryuchi cave as one of the 3 famous place.

Probably you can also learn to use Sennin mode there and since there is a relationship between Snakes, Frogs and Slugs in the manga represented by the legendary sannins or even in Japanese Mythology(Slug>Snake>Frog>Slug), it's safe to say assume that the third place Kabuto mentioned is a place where you can find slugs. Probably there is also a Slug sennin there

So ultimately you can find 3places where to can train to achieve Sennin Mode, but now these are my questions:

• Are Toad Sage and co related to Juubi somehow?(explaining the initiation in natural energy)
• Were Toad Sage and co living at Rikudo sennin's area?(Judging by the look, it's possible)
• Were Toad Sage and co personal summons from the Rikudo sennin?(explaining his great knowledge over the world shinobi and possibly how he is able to see future)

 

[Booker]

Yeah no.

 

[9 tails uzumaki]

Hmmmmm maybe

 

[Frankenstein]

Well with Kishimoto, impossible is nothing.
So it could be somehow related.
Not directly obviously.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

Nah The Kyuubi has relation to ton ton thats why ton ton is so powerful

 

[Strict]

I don't think there is a relationship. The sages are merely able to make use of the natural energy surrounding them, an energy which is everywhere. The properly usage of this energy can potentially be learned by everyone, at least with a high chakra level. So in this case, any sage who is called one since mastered the natural energy, should stay in relationship with the Juubi. The sage frogs are also merely using the natural energy everyone has access to; it's the planets energy. Juubi was compared to the very planets energy circulation, when it reached its second form, the sensory sphere looked like a star was created. Juubi doesn't only makes use of natural energy, it is equaled to it, equaled to the earths energy itself. I think, just as the usage of other techniques was learned and taught, the usage of the natural energy was also learned by people, or maybe by the toads and snakes first, who taught it further other beings.

 

[juzumaki]

Right now anything is possible

 

[Horus]

Probably nice thread

 

[Bogard]

I don't think there is a relationship. The sages are merely able to make use of the natural energy surrounding them, an energy which is everywhere. The properly usage of this energy can potentially be learned by everyone, at least with a high chakra level. So in this case, any sage who is called one since mastered the natural energy, should stay in relationship with the Juubi. The sage frogs are also merely using the natural energy everyone has access to; it's the planets energy. Juubi was compared to the very planets energy circulation, when it reached its second form, the sensory sphere looked like a star was created. Juubi doesn't only makes use of natural energy, it is equaled to it, equaled to the earths energy itself. I think, just as the usage of other techniques was learned and taught, the usage of the natural energy was also learned by people, or maybe by the toads and snakes first, who taught it further other beings.

The difference between Toads and Juubi or other Bijuus is in fact that they have insanly high chakra reserves from the start. So obviously the amount of natural energy they can achieve is nothing compared to normal toads, snakes or even slugs. What makes me wonder is that there is even 3places created where you can learn natural energy and curiously Toad, snakes are the one there in charge of training others, which means the use of natural energy is common to them. I don't think that it's that random

What about my other questions then? Do you think they were living at the time of Rikudo sennin? Do you think they were his personal summons?

 

[Varrah]

A bit behind Bogard...​

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Probably.

 

[Bogard]

A bit behind Bogard...​

Haha what do you mean? You already made the thread?

 

[Strict]

The difference between Toads and Juubi or other Bijuus is in fact that they have insanly high chakra reserves from the start. So obviously the amount of natural energy they can achieve is nothing compared to normal toads, snakes or even slugs. What makes me wonder is that there is even 3places created where you can learn natural energy and curiously Toad, snakes are the one there in charge of training others, which means the use of natural energy is common to them. I don't think that it's that random

What about my other questions then? Do you think they were living at the time of Rikudo sennin? Do you think they were his personal summons?

Not from the start, but after properly receiving natural chakra, they add natural chakra to their own Yin- and Yang-chakra [

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]. The use of natural energy is may common for them, but the emphasis lies on 'use'. Somehow, they are able to make use of natural energy and this had to be taught. Sen-Jutsu, how it's actually called, describes the art (or ability) of appropriating the natures energy. Maybe, or I'm even sure, that those toads and snakes already lived at the time of Rikudo Sennin and Rikudo Sennin, who was the creator of Jutsu, taught individuals how to perform certain powers and further taught them. Rikudo Sennin may have chosen the toads as they are known in Myōbokuzan to let them teach this ability to further generations. I think there were wise toads, snakes and other beings before the Myōbokuzan's elder, as it doesn't seem like the elder knows Rikudo Sennin personally.

But as I said, I don't hink that there is a relationship to the Juubi, as the planets actual energy flow doesn't stay in relationship with the Juubi (whether Juubi was born from the planet is another theory).