[Theory] Juubi can use kamui.

[Frikid]

This thread is created in order to prove how juubi counters amaterasu since people took my thread(sasuke>juubi) way too seriously and now they think amaterasu can solo the juubi.

So lets get started.

Here you can see what incredible things juubi was able to do :

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Now i think, the juubi can use all the MS doujutsu and it used ,
kamui to swallow the oceans
mokuton to split the land
susano to carry the mountains.

If we think it this way , it makes sense.
It is shown in the manga juubi can use mokuton and one of its mokuton attacks killed neji, so i need not explain that.
About susano, well i don't have any proof for that so lets move on to kamui.

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So here you can see naruto said gedou's chakra "Vanished" . Naruto is a sensor and kakashi have MS , yet they couldn't sense or see the juubi's chakra (for just few seconds though) :

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So lets see how obito's kamui works :

Shino spread his bugs onto him and he could sense obito's chakra :

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Hinata was keeping track of obito's chakra through byakugan :

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But when obito used his kamui, his chakra "vanished" :

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Even shino's sensor bugs lost track of him (just like naruto) :

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SO from above two situations i showed you, we can conclude only one thing, juubi used kamui to become intangible, just like how obito does it.

ALL of this can only lead to one conclusion, the gedo mazou used kamui to protect itself for naruto's monstrous bijju dama and then popped up from the ground to say "hi" .

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Now that i have proved how juubi can use kamui, it is simple, juubi can use kamui on amaterasu and send it to other dimensions . Lol

P.S : If you want to know how i come to this conclusion, you may want to click the image in my signature .

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And yeah its a bit off topic but i think NB gets way too boring when there is no manga for a week , i wonder what would happen to NB when naruto actually ends =O

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Or He ATE IT :0

also the kamui did not work on the gedo mazo! :I and no it was not obito cancelling it

 

[Edo Odin]

In no way was that proof. It's

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to sense the Juubi, Kamui has absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[ReeseKage]

Lmao lmao lmfao

 

[AizenSosuke]

Maybe he can use all MS jutsus

 

[Frikid]

In no way was that proof. It's

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to sense the Juubi, Kamui has absolutely nothing to do with it.

juubi's chakra is so vast that one can't measure it, its just that huge.
There is nothing in the manga which says one can't sense juubi's chakra.

 

[Lucidus]

Maybe he can use all MS jutsus

this is possible since i believe that the sharingan actually originate from the juubi imo

 

[Edo Odin]

juubi's chakra is so vast that one can't measure it, its just that huge.
There is nothing in the manga which says one can't sense juubi's chakra.

Are you ignoring the "Sensing our friend over there isn't even possible" part on purpose?

 

[Frikid]

Are you ignoring the "Sensing our friend over there isn't even possible" part on purpose?

You are the one who is being ignorant, if you go ahead to the next panels, you would see naruto tried to sense it and ...

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He found out juubi's chakra is immeasurable

 

[Uchiha Legacy]

Good theory, except it was stated that the Juubi can't be sensed.......

 

[Kαmi]

I feel like its possible but your proof isn't really here. I feel like its too much to assume it used Kamui because somebody definitely would have mentioned that and I think the chakra disappeared simply because the Mazo was transforming into the Juubi. I somewhat agree with you, I think attacks that are Sharingan based wi have no affect on the Juubi since the manga hints the Sharingan originally comes from the Juubi.

 

[Edo Odin]

You are the one who is being ignorant, if you go ahead to the next panels, you would see naruto tried to sense it and ...

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He found out juubi's chakra is immeasurable

He literally said "It's impossible to sense it" It's enourmous chakra reserves may be the reason, but even if that's the case, it still disproves your theory, since it only revolved around them not have been able to sense it.

 

[SilverDuck]

The only problem I have is a problem I have with a vast majority of the "theory" threads. By definition, a theory is NOT conclusive. If it was, there would be no need to even write about it, as it would be a known fact. A theory, by nature, is an argument for something, backed up by clues and hints, as well as your own observation. Saying stuff like "I proved my theory that Juubi has Kamui" is ludicrous, because you did no such thing. You offered a fairly viable debate towards the idea, but that's it. You could very well be correct, and I personally believe that you are, but you cannot deny the real possibility that you could be flat out wrong. You simply can NOT claim to have "proven" something that cannot be "proven".

The points are valid, however. I see no flaw in your logic, and I think it is likely, and pretty awesome.

 

[Frikid]

The only problem I have is a problem I have with a vast majority of the "theory" threads. By definition, a theory is NOT conclusive. If it was, there would be no need to even write about it, as it would be a known fact. A theory, by nature, is an argument for something, backed up by clues and hints, as well as your own observation. Saying stuff like "I proved my theory that Juubi has Kamui" is ludicrous, because you did know such thing. You offered a fairly viable debate towards the idea, but that's it. You could very well be correct, and I personally believe that you are, but you cannot deny the real possibility that you could be flat out wrong. You simply can NOT claim to have "proven" something that cannot be "proven".

The points are valid, however. I see no flaw in your logic, and I think it is likely, and pretty awesome.

Hmm...
you are correct, i should have said, i tried to prove my theory, would that be appropriate ?

He literally said "It's impossible to sense it" It's enourmous chakra reserves may be the reason, but even if that's the case, it still disproves your theory, since it only revolved around them not have been able to sense it.

Well, *********** translations are good but the best ones are from viz manga .
And you can see in the very next page, naruto sensed it.
The fact naruto sensed it means its chakra can be sensed.

Your argument is funny tbh, the thing which have the most chakra in the world, and it can't be sensed. Lol funny.

 

[SilverDuck]

He literally said "It's impossible to sense it" It's enourmous chakra reserves may be the reason, but even if that's the case, it still disproves your theory, since it only revolved around them not have been able to sense it.

This isn't entirely true. It's very possible, but not actually confirmed as of yet. What I mean is that Kishi could very well pull a Bleach on us, and say "Juubi was at such a high level of evolution that he cannot be read by mere ninja. Naruto himself becomes powerful enough to compare, so he can now sense the power.". I see nothing wrong with taking that turn, either.

So, NOBODY here has proven a damn thing. This is merely a discussion on possibilities. It's a think tank, and nobody should be calling anybody wrong. We're discussion something that isn't exactly known at this point. No matter how unlikely a theory may be, it is absolutely valid. Nothing wrong with heated discussion, but countering his claim to have "proven" something by claiming you have "proven" otherwise is futile.

 

[SilverDuck]

Hmm...
you are correct, i should have said, i tried to prove my theory, would that be appropriate ?


Well, *********** translations are good but the best ones are from viz manga .
And you can see in the very next page, naruto sensed it.
The fact naruto sensed it means its chakra can be sensed.

Your argument is funny tbh, the thing which have the most chakra in the world, and it can't be sensed. Lol funny.

My thoughts exactly. It offers a bit of irony to the entire situation. As when Ichigo evolves past Aizen, and can no longer be sensed. Especially after going so far to make the point that Aizen was so ****ing powerful that NOBODY was able to sense him (save Kisuke and group). He ranted and bragged about the fact. Then, he finally meets somebody so vastly superior that he couldn't him.

 

[Sherlock.]

The Sharingan came from Jubbi.... So I won't be surprised if it uses Kamui or any other Sharingan/MS/EMS Techniques and even extinguish Sasuke's Amaterasu flames.... =D =D

 

[Bansho Tenin]

I wouldnt be suprised if the Juubi uses any sharingan/rinnengan dojutsu as an immediate reaction to protect itself without it knowing.

 

[Whiteknight]

You're wrong about many things.

If we think it this way , it makes sense.
It is shown in the manga juubi can use mokuton and one of its mokuton attacks killed neji, so i need not explain that.

The more common interpretation I've seen is that those were mokuton attacks from Obito, being channeled through the Juubi. Mokuton is more than just mixing earth and water, it's being able to infuse the result with life force. There's no real evidence that the Juubi can do this.

So here you can see naruto said gedou's chakra "Vanished" . Naruto is a sensor and kakashi have MS , yet they couldn't sense or see the juubi's chakra (for just few seconds though) :

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So lets see how obito's kamui works :

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But when obito used his kamui, his chakra "vanished" :

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SO from above two situations i showed you, we can conclude only one thing, juubi used kamui to become intangible, just like how obito does it.

Wrong. When the Juubi "vanished", it didn't completely vanish. It turned from normal chakra into nature chakra. Naruto WAS ABLE TO SENSE IT when he turned to sage mode. With Obito, he couldn't do that because Obito wasn't there anymore to be sensed.

ALL of this can only lead to one conclusion, the gedo mazou used kamui to protect itself for naruto's monstrous bijju dama and then popped up from the ground to say "hi" .

Now that i have proved how juubi can use kamui, it is simple, juubi can use kamui on amaterasu and send it to other dimensions .

We've already seen that the Juubi is not affected by TBB. The Juubi has not only been able to flick them away with the twitch of a finger, he's also been able to swallow two huge TBB (one made by the Juubi itself) without getting seriously injured. Naruto and Bee firing a TBB at the Juubi wouldn't have had any effect, and he didn't need to dodge it anyway.

 

[RikudoKami]

Juubi should have a Susano'o along with all of the other powers of the Sharingan & Rinnegan that with its never ending chakra....