Justice Or Else is a Movement!
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I'm not even religious and I partially agree with him. Kill those who would continue to kill us/hold us down and away from equality. I see no difference between this and the famous Patrick Henry quote, "Give me liberty or give me death". It's not like he's asking people to run around and murder whites just because they can. If you think he's saying that you missed the message.
It's been a yearly thing that has been going on since the 60s and has not enjoyed much popularity.
Standard protocol for these types of things.
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Standard street closures for large rallies to ensure you don't get run over while telling the police to **** off.
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100,000 would be quite a stretch.
Justice Or Else advocates were caught using photos from 1995 (which clocked in at roughly 400,000 people) and from various European rallies on social media trying to advance the idea that there was a massive rally that the media simply failed to mention.
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The problem is that even CNN had difficulty spinning the rally to be very large.
It's kind of funny when you don't even realize the media is on your side of the whole issue and will not rest until it is mandatory for me to gift you my daughter for you to impregnate.
Completely ridiculous.
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" This computer simulation by Digital Design & Imaging Services shows how far a crowd of a million people at a density of 4 square feet per person would extend at the National Mall, running from the Capitol out to the far banks of the Potomac River 2½ miles away. Photo: AirPhotosLIVE "
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Comparing the rally to both model estimates and previous photographs of the 1995 rally (of between 650,000 and 1.1 million by imaging service estimates), the conclusion is that this one was far smaller, and I would caution that it is quite probable that the crowd never broke 100,000 standing.
Yes, with the leader of the Black Panthers who later became a Nation of Islam leader where he works to organize funding for Palestinian terrorist cells and to establish terrorist training camps in the United States.
But not this year. He was elsewhere, this year.
Just makes my job easier when a hundred militants charge with the same reckless abandon as if they were a mob a million strong. It's just sad that you'll throw your life and your mind away so easily.
But, that's for you to decide.
So you're not looking for people to police your own communities, but for people to exact revenge against an enemy that is left up to the mind of the militant to define.
The problem with retaliation is that it is tribal and divisive in nature. It invokes a war of attrition. You claim you are unjustly killed by whites (yet more black people kill each other than any number of police agencies combined while singing songs that glorify drugs, violence, and gang affiliation... yeah... that's totally the problem of white people) - but I can point to hundreds of cases of whites being unjustly killed by blacks.
If retaliation is truly what is to be prescribed, then annihilation is what will prevail, particularly when the call to retaliation is vague.
It doesn't matter if I count myself as part of the "400 year old enemy." I'm 27 - why the hell would I consider myself part of that? But what I think doesn't matter. What matters is the mind of someone who aspires to be one of those individuals Farrakhan called to rise up and kill. Do I fit the bill?
I won't know until they try to kill me, now will I?
And when I defend myself? They are a defenseless young doctor in training who was horribly slain by a evil, racist villain. My family will receive death threats from 'peace activists' and other such groups as people call for me to be publicly executed.
I work with plenty of black people who subscribe to none of this nonsense and plenty of customers who do not share the sentiments of these barbarians. It is unfortunate that their skin color is being implicated in a tactic of dividing a nation and breeding suspicion.
Your duplicity and the inherent evil in your actions is noted.
Wel if you actually ever listened to The Minister yourself you would know he said go in the streets and stop our people from killing each other. I have no freakn idea what that black panther thing you put is even talking about. That video you put was before the keynote and before everyoen came. It was meow than that. I don't know what part of I was there don't you get. The news did not advertise nor did they mention the march. If they did that then more people would find out about it. They did not want people knowing about that. The news tried all they can to discredit the march. Also, I found it interesting that you didn't reply to troll vibes. Trying to think of a skilled deceitful way to make him look wrong?
Edit: no one uses photos from 95. I took some photos. I'll show them if you would like to see them. I just don't know how to upload them from my phone. By the way the amount of people also went six blocks begin the monument and did I forget to mention people watched it online too? Welp, there goes your arguement
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" In a video of the Aug. 13th sermon, said, “I wouldn’t bring our young women and young men into some place to be slaughtered. But that’s what the white man hopes for. That’s why he makes mischief with my words. ‘Farrakhan wanna get an army to kill people,’ because, you see, white people deserve to die. And they know so and they think it’s us coming to do it. No, no, no.”
Farrakhan also said in the video that a God will send a UFO, “a chariot” or “wheel in the sky,” to rescue his followers and carry out justice if a race war began. "
"What I -really- meant was that it would be aliens... aliens who do the killing... not the people I asked to stand up and kill..."
I would caution you not to follow this man. He is, at best, a lunatic with a failing grasp of reality... or, at worst, a hellspawn bent on using the lives of others to accomplish a selfish personal objective. Neither one would have his followers faring very well.
The problem is that the police are not holding blacks down. The argument could be made that the welfare system is (and most conservatives agree - but we are generally lumped into the 'enemy' category), but the 'equality' is such a moving standard that it basically equates to "blacks should have what they want, when they want, because they are black and want it... and when they don't get it, it's racism because... black."
It amounts to an attempt to guilt the ignorant into being servants and to bully the weak into being slaves.
At what point will equality have been achieved?
What more am I supposed to do, other than treat a black person as I would any other human being, in order to make things equal?
That was a pretty bad quote you got. Looks like some news writer who tried his hardest to make The Ministers words sound evil. And my God, you're pulling out all the ignorant newscasters you can. Really why would you even believe he said aliens. That's someone's personal view and spin on things. I recommend you get some good sense because you're not using any. Maybe you should take a class on how to get Information from a good source
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Which was not anywhere within the context of the speech he gave regarding a call to rise up.
You're a tool, of course you wouldn't. You are a disposable part of a larger agenda to benefit the Nation of Islam leaders.
Pictures from the keynote speaker and videos from the same resonate with that video as being an accurate representation.
Am I going to trust the words:
"there were more than a million people there, trust me" - which I can very easily produce, myself...
Or the lens of a camera, which records photon reflections from material present in an area and would require one to actually assemble over a million people for the lens to record it?
It's a march that occurs every year that has lost a lot of prominence. Many of the articles that covered it showered it with praise, and most of the news agencies used stock footage from the 1995 rally (some neglecting to include foot-notes that those were from a rally 20 years ago) where they could to give the reader the impression that there was a higher turnout than there actually was.
Most of the news articles don't even cover the fact that Martin and Brown were both criminals, and that the recent case in Balt-no-more was one of self-inflicted injury in which the mayor is looking at being charged with perjury and obstruction of justice over her attempts to keep records withheld from the courts that more or less prove the kid was beating his head against the wall in an attempt to injure himself (his initial transportation was to have surgery after his latest bid to cave his skull in so that the police would have another black death on their hands).
In other words, the media has been on your side the entire time.
It will, honestly, be the height of divine justice to see them slaughtered by the beasts they thought they could ride as a harlot. They've served you well, and yet you're willing to strike out and kill them.
I can only reply to so much at any given time and in a certain order.
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" Farrakhan also recounted what he claimed was a UFO abduction in which Elijah Muhammad warned him of a coming war. Farrakhan explained how after the 1985 event, then-President Ronald Reagan announced that Americans were to have no dealings with Libya and Gadhafi. It was at that point, he said Tuesday, that he understood this was the war to which his UFO experience alluded.
“I wondered then: Was Moammar Gadhafi the man and the war I was told about? While I was in Ghana it crystallized to me that it was Moammar Gadhafi and Libya. This was in 1986,” he said adding that he immediately took a Russian plane to Libya to warn Gadhafi of “America’s plans.”
“I told them my experience,” he said, “and I told them that America was going to bomb their airport, communications, their water project etc.”
According to Farrakhan, an American bomb strike on Libya shortly after his visit there confirmed his belief in his UFO prophecy. "
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" If you’re like the vast majority of human beings on this planet, you haven’t closely followed the preaching of minister Louis Farrakhan, former calypso music artist, extremist Islamist, black supremacist, and all around anti-Semite. Well, it’s time you caught up on all the craziness … and Twitchy is here to help!
In short, it’s all about The Wheel. No, we’re not talking about the Wheel of Fortune. That’s Pat Sajak — different minister. It’s some kind of mothership from outer space that follows Farrakhan around. At some point, when he’s good and ready, he will climb on board to fly away from planet Earth and, for good measure, maybe kill off all of our planet’s blue-eyed devils. "
The page contains a number of tweets from Farrakhan in regards to the whole "alien" thing.
I'm warning you, again, this man is dangerous to follow.
They praised the 95 March but that was about it and that was only because they didn't think it would be successful. the media doesn't want people to know about justice or else. They're orivately owned. They get orders on what to report on. They didn't want people to know about this. My man it never appeared on the news where I live at all. And it didn't happen the first two years after 95 shows how much you know. By the way, arguing with you is a waste of my time since you pros to think blacks that are murdered by police deserve to be murdered so im ending this right here. I don't have the patience to go back and forth with someone as misinformed as you.
No one is claiming that it is solely them or them at all.If the argument is that the welfare system is holding blacks down and back then I'm certain people that follow this movement would agree that it must go to reach equality. Equality is not a moving standard. It's extremely simple. Treat everyone the same.
What are blacks that follow this movement asking for? Stop killing blacks as if we don't matter and treat us the same... Or else... What else are they requesting 'the white man' give us? The only reparations we're asking for is to be treated equally in the country that says that all men are created equal. In the country that is supposed to be a melting pot of culture. For some reason the further we've gotten as a nation, the less we remember that statement.
This is nonsense.
If you're treating a black person as you would any other human no one is asking more of you. However, it doesn't stop there. It's not simply about black and white. It's everyone, in my opinion, and that's where I differ with the Minister. I think everyone should be about peace and love and I think it's completely attainable. I do think there will be trouble and unnecessary violence along the way, but as long as we stay on the path of love nothing can stop us. Shit, I probably won't live to see the day where everyone is truly equal, but being apart of a movement that helps progress that thought is enough for me.
The Minister knows it's about everyone he's not just about black. But he puts black first because why wouldn't you think about your own people first? The Minister had people of various races speak at Justice or else about their issues. Justice or else wasn't just shot injustice done to blacks, but Injustice done to black, brown, red, yellow, and poor white. You should give it a watch. It was unity like never before seen. I was there man. It was beautiful
What news articles have you been reading, bud?
The media has shied away somewhat from covering the "... or else" aspect. The problem is that the liberals in the media don't want to admit that they have been backing domestic terrorists.
There are many things going on all over the world each and every day. Any news agency requires some kind of directive upon what is to be covered and what is not to be covered. The fact that media is privately owned is neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.
It appeared on my news stations. It appeared on most of my conservative blogs that I check up on, as well.
*shrug* When you're up against a dragon, you take your points where you can get them, I suppose.
When you break the law and attack police officers, you get shot. If you get to break the law and attack police officers... then get away with it - you may as well live in a society without laws. 20 years of not having laws in various sections of the inner-city has reduced them to crime-riddled husks.
The genuine incidents of police brutality never get covered - regardless of the races involved. The ones that get spun out of proportion are the ones where a black man is guilty as sin and gets shot by a police officer doing his job. This is because the agenda is to destroy local law enforcement.
It's a policy agenda I've covered before and this is behavior I predicted well over a year ago. The goal is to create a virtual palestinian authority that governs itself under its own rules while claiming oppression by the surrogate nation that supplies it. It's an evolution of the strategy we used under the Clinton administration to break up Yugoslavia when Al Qaeda operatives were flown into Bosnia to train local militias in terrorist and propaganda techniques so that Serbia could be bombed when they reacted to protect the sovereignty of their nation.
Very similar policy playing out in the United States for a very similar objective.
Equality as demanded by this movement is a moving standard.
Blacks are treated the same in both law and society. One could even make the argument that blacks are considerably advantaged due to various affirmative action programs that make it a requirement for certain institutions to hire blacks in representation of the surrounding population.
Where are blacks being killed as if they don't matter?
It's the truth.
Throughout the 60s, blacks were overwhelmingly supported by white populations in their quest for civil rights. Popular culture celebrates and deifies the actions of civil rights leaders. Box office hits are movies about historic moments in civil rights history - such as "Remember The Titans."
Throughout much of the 80s, 90s, and 2000s, blacks were another part of society - only mildly more visible than the Asian populations. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan have been public taboo for decades, as have the neo-nazis and other supremacist groups; while similar groups from black culture (the Black Panthers) have been turned into icons within comic books as heroes.
For all intents and purposes, blacks were treated equally by society.
Even if we want to turn our focus on the targets of welfare programs - the corrosive effects of welfare are seen through all populations, black, white, asian, latino - it destroys them all equally. It's just that blacks happen to qualify for it in higher percentages and opt to enroll in those programs (though it is the goal of such programs to expand to every corner of society).
No one is holding blacks down.
Yet we are being told that we are holding them down - that our society is evil and needs to be destroyed.
I don't think you realize the degree to which your own mind has been corrupted and become obsessed with the idea that every ill that befalls you is somehow because you are black or is made worse because you are black.
When you realize these people are not about peace and love, but are about carnal rage and control, look me up.
These people are interested in nothing but serving their own self interest while deluding others into being pawns in their charade. Keep in mind that pawns are expendable, and you will soon start to see them use you as such.
Here in lay the problem.
When I think of the way laws should be, color doesn't factor into my mind at all. I don't look at law, state, society, etc as being contingent upon race or color. When I discuss economics - the concepts don't change just because one person is a different race. When I discuss ethics, race doesn't even enter my mind unless some kind of racial conflict is the specific subject of ethics (in which case, it really isn't much different than any other self-affiliated group having a conflict with another).
When I speak of the way a free nation should be - race isn't a factor. I don't see it as being for 'whites' any more than I see it being for 'asians.' The goal of the policies I espouse to accompany a successful nation should apply pretty much the world over, provided the culture of the people can uphold the concepts established by the government (for example - in some areas, the culture simply doesn't believe in a government being limited, and the importance of such restrictions is largely lost upon the population... which means it would be difficult to check the power of government with democratic processes as the population is used to ceding massive amounts of authority to the government by virtue of it being the government).
When I speak of law - the law applies equally to all people.
This man is not speaking about policy. He is not speaking, even, about ideology. He is simply speaking to the tendency of people to form tribal groupings. He is lumping black people together and attempting to make the argument that they should feel persecuted and that they should be angry that they are persecuted - angry enough to rise up and kill those who they feel are responsible for the persecution.
It is a message that relieves one of individual responsibility for the decisions one has made in life.
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" A female Native American speaker led a crowd in a chant of “down, down USA” at the Million Man March in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.
In her speech, the woman claimed that former Libyan dictator Muammar “Gaddafi is still alive” and called on President Obama to pardon Leonard Peltier, a Native American activist who was convicted of murdering two FBI officers in 1975. "
Sounds like a mass temper tantrum, to me.
I've been to rallies, before. This one was nothing special in what people felt at it. I could get into the psychology of how it works, and all that, but you're not interested in such things.
*shrug*
It is unfortunate that the organizers of this movement will not have the decency to name your grave when they have disposed of you. But, such would seem to be your fate.
You, also, presume too much. You do realize the event was streamed live and recorded, do you not? Assuming for the moment that your presumption you were the only one from these boards who was there, the presumption that I do not know what went on at this rally is horribly naive on your part.