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Sure thing GoT, that must be why all those manga film adaptations are so world renown. That must be why so many manga stories are included in world wide must read lists. That must be why there's mangacons all the time, oh wait that's mostly just the west.
You talk about over powered but most people like you claim DBZ to be the strongest verse in fiction(albeit wrong but many make the claim)
manga adaptions, no, every adaption (western included) is shit. this is nothign new, btw.
b: because humans tend to buy every crap for some reason. have you even seen the books which are ont he top lists? it's garbage like 50 shades of grey and the like. now tell me how reliable this is?
movies that are claimed to be one of the best, matrix, inception, rocky etc are inspired by ANIME/MANGA.
ghost int he Shell > matrix
paprika >inception
ashita no joe >rocky
and many more oh and let's not forget how ghibli is better in any way than disney
the west is trying so hard to make anime/manga look bad and something only for Kids because they otherwise it would trash their market easily
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Ashita no Joe and Rocky don't really have anything in common other than they're stories about boxers and Joe's called Rocky Joe outside of Japan sometimes. Rocky never went to jail, Joe's an up and comer Rocky was called back to fighting by Creed, it's a completely different story.
The Matrix was influenced by martial arts films and Asian directors but not so much manga or anime and The Wachowski's have cited comics as an inspiration before, while I've seen no mention of manga or anime in their inspirations.
"The brothers admit to a love for telling multi-part stories. "Because we grew up on comic books and the Tolkien trilogy, one of the things we're interested in is bringing serial fiction to cinema, Larry explains."
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"Speaking to Bernard Weintraub of The New York Times in April 1999, the Wachowskis mention explicitly preparing for their first Matrix production by studying the works of John Woo "and other Hong Kong filmmakers", as well as reading and rereading Homer's Odyssey, and studying the works of John Huston, Stanley Kubrick, Fritz Lang, George Lucas, Ridley Scott, and Billy Wilder"
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And you're not even using the real good movies as examples; Shawshank, Saving Private Ryan, Silence of the Lambs, Pan's Labyrinth, Fight Club etc.
The simple fact is more western stories are more universally appealing than manga because few people want to read slice of life stories, manga cater to a localized fandom that's why they're not as far reaching. Most people don't want to read about a middle schooler or possibly high schooler becoming the best tennis player or baseball player or golfer or chef or a kid playing Go or any of the other boring slice of life stories taking over the mainstream manga.
And food for thought, notice how of the 10 most popular manga currently most are just like comics;
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Superpowers and/or team based
One Piece
My Hero Academia
One Punch Man
Nanatsu no Taizai
Erased is just Flashpoint
Attack on Titan and Tokyo Ghoul match up pretty well with Walking Dead and Chew the formers being disaster scenarios and world re-building and the later dealing with the supernatural and flesh consumption.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you haven't actually read many comics and the ones you have were just Marvel or DC. You're probably missing ones like East of West, Lazarus, Saga, *** Criminals, Sandman, 100 Bullets, Five Weapons, The Sixth Gun, Bedlam, The Manhattan Projects, Black Science, Low, Tokyo Ghost...
The one advantage manga have over comics is the continuity is much easier to maintain with only one author handling the story and sometimes a works overall story has to suffer a little on comics when authors switch, though manga authors aren't always 100% either so it's not a huge advantage.
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You neg repped him but he's the one who was triggered? I must need to hit up Urbanslang some more because I'm pretty sure that's not the correct way to use that phrase.thanks for posting the truth about yourself
shit taste is everywhere on the net
nothins more fun than to trigger salty Comic tards
oh lord.... go back to your dreamland where you think comics are superior.. :kk:
and while your at it learn the meaning of neg repping someone
you do that to people who burst out bs.. aka mr wolve and you
calls manga enjoyment for Kids and heavily sol based, but totally doesn't realize that he failed by trying to back it up with "comics are for mature people dealing with serious stuff"
^ this is why it is so easy for Hollywood to make Money with the same shit movies, because People lik you are idiots
complexity is nowhere to find in your western Cartoons and you can deny as much as you want, somf of Hollywood's best movies are inspired by Anime and manga and there is alot of proof out there.
they love to copy satoshi kon for example, but who am i telling that? lol
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if you don't know shit, just shut up and walk away!
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Superior in what aspect? For someone who keeps yelling about other people not backing shit up you may well explain what criteria you're deploying here.
The meaning of neg rep doesn't go any further than the member giving neg rep openly showing their disdain for the user being neg repped. It really just doesn't go further than "I'm butthurt and want to harm you in every way I can so I'm going to desperately try to damage your green pixel bar".
The moment anyone here tries to label a whole medium as exclusive to one age-group is the moment that person loses all credibility on the topic. This is even more so when manga and comics are basically the same medium with differences in publishing format, manga are japanese comics (you can also call them strips if you'd like since for some reason people completely forget about Europe and it's rich history with the medium).
Again, labeling a medium as immature or childish is an instant loss of credibility. Also, this is about comics vs manga, why talk about anime vs cartoons now? Speaking of which, there are plenty complex issues prested in western animation. Have you ever been to an actual film festival? Not talking Hollywood movie projections, but cultural events - I have (in fact I was in a jury for a national festival of animated film). Plenty of mature stuff there. Just because you don't see mature themes in children shows aired on TV doesn't mean the west has nothing to offer - it just means you're ignorant of them.
At this point I wonder if I should be saying something along these lines...
you shouldn't because you're obviously failing at reading...
i: i wonder why you quote me to tell me that? he was the one who said anime and manga are nothing but slice of stories aimed ad Kids and the reason Comics and western stuff is more known because it deals with mature content
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What exactly did I fail at? (If you're gonna respond make sure to actually not fail at answering my points yourself...)
I'm talking to you because you raised the most points which are false and should be argued against. (Also, you're acting like a douche so you kinda stand out the most.)
not sure what kind of an idiot one must be to not get his own fail... but whatever
you quoted me and accused me of saying "cartoons are only for Kids or any medium", which actually the other dude said about manga and not me
what i've said is that cartoons arenothing compared to the complexity story and characters manga/anime ahs to offer, which is nothing but the truth
why should i bother replying to you if you don't even see that? smh
who says they are false? you? the other butthurst? wtf... your opinions mean nothing when facing facts, kiddo
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It's funny how your posts are just full of hypocrisy... This is what you really said here:
Straight up saying comics (and western medium) in general lack complexity and are overall crap. This isn't saying japanese do it better than the west, it's straight up saying the west doesn't hold any value at all. This is the attitude with which you came into this thread, bashing both comics and people who like them in the usual "wanna be an edgelord" fashion. This is hardly facts (since you provided no back up to your statements and merely kept on dissing others while dodging their arguments as you are doing now - again hypocrisy given how you challenged others to "back shit up") and certainly no more than a biased opinion of a person completely ignorant of the medium as a whole.
Not to mention, you're yet again merely reiterating this all-but-obvious statement of manga and anime triumphing over western comics and animation so before you start yelling about facts and truth make sure to provide them because so far you've provided nothing but insults and neg reps.
Again, hypocrisy since you're actually the one who doesn't see their own fail which by your words makes you quite the idiot.
"Smh" all you want, but it doesn't take much to see that the only kid here is a guy who goes around talking shit about western media in a thread dedicated to western media desperately seeking attention while avoiding any serious discussion so far - none other but you.
Until you can muster the brain power to actually make an intelligible response to what I said in my above post (or chopstickchakra's for that matter) I won't waste my time replying to your ignorant, uneducated opinions.
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idk why you're still bothering honestly, you've seen how he's been. Making up fake claims and arguing his own interpretations of posts. He said The Matrix was inspired by anime but couldn;t give an example to counter the listed influences as stated by the Wachowski's themselves. Offered no depth to the claim Rocky is just like Ashita no Joe. And he tries to make claims for people, show me where I said manga/anime were for kids and comics were for adults. I said slice of life manga were boring but you've shown to not have good comprehension so it's no surprise that you misrepresented that statement in your reply.