[Discussion] Just stop comparing almighty Sage of six paths to Overpowered Obito

Do you think Sage of six paths is beyond Obito's power ?


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KCMNaruto

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INTRODUCTION

Hell guys I can't believe that people really are trying to compare Obito to Sage of six paths, this is simply stupid

Let's me explain in details why Obito can't be on Sage of six paths level, here I go:

COMPARISION

Sage of six paths was able to seal unrestrained Juubi, as you can say here:

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Ok, I don't see any torri gates or chakra barrier keeping Juubi restrained and weaken him while Sage of six paths seals it in himself.

Moreover This Juubi had power of all Nine tailed beasts combined(exactly Kurama and Gyuuki was part of Juubi !)

Now let's take a look at current Juubi, here:

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WOW, Juubi is restrained by torri gates and weaken by Alliance Shinobi force. Moreover Juubi lacks Kurama and Gyuuki parts and Juubi isn't even final form trolllolo

Now, please take a look at Sage of six paths's and Obito's conditions while sealing Juubi.

Ok, so Sage of six paths wasn't old and weak from what we can understands from pic.

Now take a look at Obito, he is old and weak and moreover on verge of dying....

MISCONCEPTION

It was acclaimed that Sage of six paths is just Uchiha and Senjuu powers combined together, like here:

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However I am sure Obito was wrong at this time as Kabuto with more knowledge proved Sage of six paths was more then Uchiha/Senjuu powers combination:

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As we can see here, Kabuto mentioned that Madara is only fragment of Sage of six paths power and please consider that Madara is combination of Senjuu and Uchiha powers.

Moreover Kabuto even further confirmed it here:

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Here Kabuto says that he is currently closer to Sage of six paths then anyone in this world, and let's focus to what ability he could reffer

Exactly Sage mode, ability to feel, absorb and use nature energy !, nature force itself !!

Sage of six paths's truelly all abiliies

I am believer that Sage of six paths was Uzumaki and Hyuuga hybrid before he became Juubi jinchurki, but let's say that we have to choices in that case, there would:

If we consider Sage of six paths as Uzumaki/Hyuuga hybrid
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Pre Juubi Sage of six paths= UZUMAKI + HYUUGA + SENJUTSU + - something other

If we consider Sage of six paths as not Uzumaki/Hyuuga hybrid:

Pre Juubi Sage of six paths= Rinnengan + SENJUTSU +- something other

So after sealing Full power final form of Juubi Sage according to Uzumaki/Hyuuga theory had:

Juubi Jin Sage of six paths = UZUMAKI + HYUUGA + SENJUU(UZUMAKI + JUUBI INFLUENCE ) + UCHIHA(HYUUGA + JUUBI's INFLUENCE) + PERFECT SAGE MODE + MASSIVE AMOUNT OF NATURE ENERGY + CREATION OF ALL THINGS + ALL SHARINGAN POWERS


So after sealing Full power final form of Juubi Sage not according to Uzumaki/Hyuuga theory had:

Juubi Jin Sage of six paths = SENJUU+ UCHIHA + PERFECT SAGE MODE + MASSIVE AMOUNT OF NATURE ENERGY + CREATION OF ALL THINGS + ALL SHARINGAN POWERS

So here we can see extent of Sage of six paths powers
JUUBI's powers

If we are goona believe that Juubi is The Progenitor of Shinobi World and considering appearance of Juubi's eye, we can conclude that Juubi HAD ALL UCHIHA POWERS, Including: Kamui, Tsukyomii, Amaterasu, Sussano, Kotoamatsukyomii + all other uknown ms techniques any user can has.

But even if some of you guys decline this possibilty then Please remember that Rinnengan allows to use Ying-Yang release and use it perfectly.

With Yin release(genjutsu) everything can be manipulated and we know that Kamui is something like that because attacks pass throught Obito while he is in ghost mode sending his body parts to other dimenssion.

Using Yin release you can simply imagine that Obito's parts are here and Kamui effect can be nulified and then Obito will be hit, that it.
Conclusion:

Obito can't be compared to Sage of six paths in no way besides
Obito Juubi Jin vs Pre Juubi Sage of six paths, it is only this case
Pre Juubi Sage of six paths > Pre juubi Obito
Juubi Jin Sage of six paths > Juubi Jin Obito

Obito can't defeat or even match Sage of six paths because he lacks Sage mode and ability to feel energy nature, besides Juubi isn't in final form and lack Kurama and Gyuuki powers.

Maybe Sage of six paths was able to control Juubi thanks to Sage mode by using Juubi's nature energy and being able to absorb it. If it is that case then Obito may be unable to use Juubi's power and maybe Juubi will takes over Obito's body or Obito will die unleashing final form of Juubi =D

Possibilites:

Do you remember while Sage of six paths had to unseal Juubi from hinself ?

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Here It say that Sage of six paths unsealed and split Juubi in nine parts and seal it's corpse into creating moon in fear due to releasing Juubi after his death.

So we know that Sage of six paths did all of it, while being on his deathbed. Now let's see what did Obito do ?

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Yeah exactly Obito was on verge of dying while sealing Juubi. He even got Old and had white hair due to Failed try Rinne Tensei on Madara, so Could Obito die soon cause being unable to contain Juubi's powers ?

Maybe, we will see

I see three possibilites of current development of plot:

1) Juubi takes over Obito as Obito can't control Juubi
2) Obito can't contain Juubi too long as Juubi reach it's final form, Obito Body blown up and Juubi final form emerges
3) Obito try to buy himself some time while reversing agging process with Juubi powers while Alliance Shinobi will attack him

Anyway, his situation doesn't look good...

In short I am sure Sage of six paths controlled Juubi with Rinnengan and Sage mode :D

What do you think about it ?, Please share your thoughts on this topic ;)

EDIT: Confratulations to all logical Obito fans(not fanboys/wankers/**** ridders) because Obito as Juubi jin just become The second strongest Shinobi even just behind Sage of six paths :win:
 
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we know it all...but we have yet to see what obiti can do ..but no one can surpass rikudo
 

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Obito is now the closest power level to the sage.

What makes the sage ant obito different is that the sages base strength > juubi.

Obito needed making basically, he needed enhancements and he still isn't near the same strength.


Sage > Jinbito :cool:
 

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You've got a problem with Obito from what i see, lol.

No one is comparing him with the Sage. Also I think he mentioned once that it doesn't matter if the full bijuu is absorbed as long as a part of the charcka is in the Gedo Mazo.

Maybe the final transformation will take place now.
 

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You've got a problem with Obito from what i see, lol.

No one is comparing him with the Sage. Also I think he mentioned once that it doesn't matter if the full bijuu is absorbed as long as a part of the charcka is in the Gedo Mazo.

Maybe the final transformation will take place now.

Sorry If I sounded rude to you or somethng but I am simply annoyed by someHardcore Obito fanboys who claims that he can match or even surprass Sage of six paths

Can you explain me how ? or I should ignore them

yeah Obito is good character, but Tobi was much better as masked man for certainly

I can admit that I wanted for Madara to become Juubi Jin, but this isn't issue for me anymore as I accepted Obito as final villain and being second most powerfull shinobi.

but trying to compare him to Sage of six paths piss me off and then I have enough of Stupid Obito's wankery

I hope you get my point ;)

EDIT:

You think that final transformation will takes place now, ok...

but how... Obito can't feel nature energy neither he knows about sage mode so Juubi can't directly interract with nature and absorb nature energy because Obito is extra factor who can't absorb nature energy. For all Obito can even turn in stone if he tries. Lol that would be funny ;)
 
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Wrong!!

Sage of six path equals: sagemode, uchiha, and senju+Juubi complete form at peak power.

There is nothing in the manga stating hyuuga or uzamaki being associated with the sage
 

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Pre Juubi Sage probably > Juubito

That could be this case but Juubito can match or even slightly suprass Pre Juubi Sage ;)

Wrong!!

Sage of six path equals: sagemode, uchiha, and senju+Juubi complete form at peak power.

There is nothing in the manga stating hyuuga or uzamaki being associated with the sage

Yeah I know that why I showed to you two possible theories stating that if Sage was Uzumaki/Hyuuga then
else he was...

I hope you get my point ;)

Anyway thanks a lot for posting here :win:
 
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