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Now this is to TCHmaster who blatantly insulted me ..... when he clearly cant draw anatomy correctly or shade for that matter.

first off here is what he said:
No offense taken. The OVA is a mess but I don't think the manga has the problems you listed. I would like it if you showed me what you mean because anatomy has a bit wider meaning.

Also you're right about video editing. I need some serious help with it... wich you are free to give.

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Lol after checking some of your drawings I see I shouldn't have taken your post seriously. I tought you knew how to draw. No offense.


second you will now see an image on the left is his poorly made manga page and on the right is my drawing of his first panel
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now i hope TCHmaster that you do see all your mistakes and take this as a means to look up and improve your drawings and not insult people who have been in the feild longer then you.

TCHmaster your characters look like they have no bones, no shoulders and also some of them dont even look real/ correct i dont even know how you could mess it up so badly. please improve before insulting people.

to everyone who reads this... just me a little anger thank you for looking or commenting i just don't like being insulted when its not called for.....

thank you for listening to my rant :)
 

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Woooooooooooooooohooo! What a ride! Seriously... Sorry for the late reply. But damn... I mean... I can't even... Phew... You're the first person to make a thread just for me. How nice. <3 Wish it was under different circunstances. Anyway...

First of all the title is inappropriate since noone's mad. (Are'ya mad?)
Next I didn't insult you. My comment was the same as yours. (Wich leads me to assume that you don't know the weight of your own words, but yeah that's just me.)

Oki doki! Now up to the image and the whole "I can't draw anatomy for shit" thingy...
What you listed about them having no bones, hips, shoulders or what not makes no sense. First of all I wanted to make the characters hands and stuff look YGO-ish thus why proportions are not the same as you wanted them. I'm trying my best to stay true to the style wich is known for ridicilous hand poses and stuff like that. But so that it wouldn't seem I'm taking this as an excuse I'll give ya the reason why I drew his hand in the first panel like that.

1..2...3... It's called perspective! TA-DAAA! You know as in closer things looking bigger and the thing that is often dramatised to make it more obvious? Well ya learn something new everyday.

Second panel I don't get. What are you pointing at? His belt? His leg? His outfit? Idk Idc. The pose is fine. Ok moving on!

Third panel... oh wait she didn't say anything about that. Too bad.

Fourth panel! Ooops same here. xD

Fifth one! No shoulders no blade? Dfq is that supposed to mean. Anyway the shoulder is there. Idk how you didn't notice it. Just because it's not rounded up like a sketch it doesn't mean it's not there. I made a curly line. Can't you see it. (OMG why did I say that now she gonna make a thread about me calling her blind!)
No hips pointing at the belt... Really? o_O How're you supposed to see something that's covered by a multi-layered clothing. They aint got bones like Kimimaro. Next one!

Oh wait that's it... Oh well.

Oh yeah I forgot the whole deal of you bothering me for assuming stuff about me when you went and said you've been in the field more than me. Well I'll share something nice with ya. Ever heard of NAFF? As in Neum Animated Film Festival? Probably not. Well anyway it's got a global reputation and guess who's been a member of the judges who chose wich films were to go into competetion? That's right. Me and at the age of 15 to top it off! Just grab a 2012 catalog and you'll see a nice little black haired boy on the right page. ^-^ Talk about me being a noob right?

Also I saw the drawings you made. Congratz! They're great. Better than anything I made so far! Especially this one!



Oh wait... it's not yours. :/

The ones you posted on NB and on your deviant art account are on par with what I drew 5/6 years ago. (The OVA you oh so criticised was made back then.) Not to mention all the manga pages are done in a short time. (When I really go into it it looks like the picture I showed before except for the colors and effects since I draw on a piece of paper with no digital enchancement what so ever- Pure talent)

Be sure to remind me if I missed something Britty. :* Sorry for getting you rustled. :***

Bye bye! n.n
 

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It seems like he rustled you first, and you rustled him with this post. ^ XD

I don't know about him, but I would be very thankful for the advice/tutorial on how to correct my errors.
 

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It seems like he rustled you first, and you rustled him with this post. ^ XD

I don't know about him, but I would be very thankful for the advice/tutorial on how to correct my errors.

What makes you think I'm rustled?
 
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Woooooooooooooooohooo! What a ride! Seriously... Sorry for the late reply. But damn... I mean... I can't even... Phew... You're the first person to make a thread just for me. How nice. <3 Wish it was under different circunstances. Anyway...

First of all the title is inappropriate since noone's mad. (Are'ya mad?)
Next I didn't insult you. My comment was the same as yours. (Wich leads me to assume that you don't know the weight of your own words, but yeah that's just me.)

Oki doki! Now up to the image and the whole "I can't draw anatomy for shit" thingy...
What you listed about them having no bones, hips, shoulders or what not makes no sense. First of all I wanted to make the characters hands and stuff look YGO-ish thus why proportions are not the same as you wanted them. I'm trying my best to stay true to the style wich is known for ridicilous hand poses and stuff like that. But so that it wouldn't seem I'm taking this as an excuse I'll give ya the reason why I drew his hand in the first panel like that.

1..2...3... It's called perspective! TA-DAAA! You know as in closer things looking bigger and the thing that is often dramatised to make it more obvious? Well ya learn something new everyday.

Second panel I don't get. What are you pointing at? His belt? His leg? His outfit? Idk Idc. The pose is fine. Ok moving on!

Third panel... oh wait she didn't say anything about that. Too bad.

Fourth panel! Ooops same here. xD

Fifth one! No shoulders no blade? Dfq is that supposed to mean. Anyway the shoulder is there. Idk how you didn't notice it. Just because it's not rounded up like a sketch it doesn't mean it's not there. I made a curly line. Can't you see it. (OMG why did I say that now she gonna make a thread about me calling her blind!)
No hips pointing at the belt... Really? o_O How're you supposed to see something that's covered by a multi-layered clothing. They aint got bones like Kimimaro. Next one!

Oh wait that's it... Oh well.

Oh yeah I forgot the whole deal of you bothering me for assuming stuff about me when you went and said you've been in the field more than me. Well I'll share something nice with ya. Ever heard of NAFF? As in Neum Animated Film Festival? Probably not. Well anyway it's got a global reputation and guess who's been a member of the judges who chose wich films were to go into competetion? That's right. Me and at the age of 15 to top it off! Just grab a 2012 catalog and you'll see a nice little black haired boy on the right page. ^-^ Talk about me being a noob right?

Also I saw the drawings you made. Congratz! They're great. Better than anything I made so far! Especially this one!



Oh wait... it's not yours. :/

The ones you posted on NB and on your deviant art account are on par with what I drew 5/6 years ago. (The OVA you oh so criticised was made back then.) Not to mention all the manga pages are done in a short time. (When I really go into it it looks like the picture I showed before except for the colors and effects since I draw on a piece of paper with no digital enchancement what so ever- Pure talent)

Be sure to remind me if I missed something Britty. :* Sorry for getting you rustled. :***

Bye bye! n.n

yes i was mad and you just clearly insluted my work again and no you work is plain terrible and if you dont know what anatomy is then mate you really gottago look it up cause you figures look like they have no bones at all theremissing them and id like to see you draw on my lvl of talent go a head draw with the detail i put in my art work let me see like this one



just beacuse you can animate doesnt mean you can draw

learn to bloody draw mate ..... cause you clearly cant and if you could even draw like me or even close i would give compliments/ pointers about your work but you cant....

and even with the yu-gi-oh style which mind you is a beautiful anime style you have draw it incorrctly..... the nect is not thin to the head, the hair is plain rediculous.... the eyes werent even close to yugioh style not to mention the basics and the no shading of the clothing at all..... takes some art classes mate .....


Didn't mean to offend you tho! Just for the laughs ;)
no worries i was just appoligising cause just me i dont like being angery

It seems like he rustled you first, and you rustled him with this post. ^ XD

I don't know about him, but I would be very thankful for the advice/tutorial on how to correct my errors.

yeah pretty much :/
 
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yes i was mad and you just clearly insluted my work again and no you work is plain terrible and if you dont know what anatomy is then mate you really gottago look it up cause you figures look like they have no bones at all theremissing them and id like to see you draw on my lvl of talent go a head draw with the detail i put in my art work let me see like this one



just beacuse you can animate doesnt mean you can draw

learn to bloody draw mate ..... cause you clearly cant and if you could even draw like me or even close i would give compliments/ pointers about your work but you cant....

and even with the yu-gi-oh style which mind you is a beautiful anime style you have draw it incorrctly..... the nect is not thin to the head, the hair is plain rediculous.... the eyes werent even close to yugioh style not to mention the basics and the no shading of the clothing at all..... takes some art classes mate .....



no worries i was just appoligising cause just me i dont like being angery



yeah pretty much :/

lol so instead of trying to counter the points I made you just repeated the whole rant. Basically you're just talking bs (you don't have a clue about the YGO style) and keep telling me to learn how to draw when all my 2D drawings beat your digitally enchanced ones. Since you're just gonna keep on repeating the same stuff over and over I am not gonna argue any more.

I proved that I have experience. Proved that my drawings are correct and that you love criticising when you have no clue but can't take it when it's your turn to sit and listen.

Also that image you showed is simple to draw. The details you're talking about are digital. Thus telling me to draw it is pointless since I don't have a tablet. About the whole shading thing I know how to shade but I don't want it here. I want it to be plain black and white no shade or screentones. I tried shading and it doesn't fit what I am trying to make.

Now sure. Go on about how I again insulted you, need to learn anatomy (wich I know very well) and how I need to go back to school etc.

I already topped all your drawings and beat all your arguments. Face the loss...
 

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lol so instead of trying to counter the points I made you just repeated the whole rant. Basically you're just talking bs (you don't have a clue about the YGO style) and keep telling me to learn how to draw when all my 2D drawings beat your digitally enchanced ones. Since you're just gonna keep on repeating the same stuff over and over I am not gonna argue any more.

I proved that I have experience. Proved that my drawings are correct and that you love criticising when you have no clue but can't take it when it's your turn to sit and listen.

Also that image you showed is simple to draw. The details you're talking about are digital. Thus telling me to draw it is pointless since I don't have a tablet. About the whole shading thing I know how to shade but I don't want it here. I want it to be plain black and white no shade or screentones. I tried shading and it doesn't fit what I am trying to make.

Now sure. Go on about how I again insulted you, need to learn anatomy (wich I know very well) and how I need to go back to school etc.

I already topped all your drawings and beat all your arguments. Face the loss...

my work inst digitally enhanced at all its all draw every detail i dont use Photoshop i use a drawing program call sketch book pro it has no enhancement capabilities its like drawing on paper...... but digitally

you havent one your not even close :/ you need to go back to school ..... or listen to people when thy give advice.

you don't know anatomy well at all ....

you make me laugh you know why i dont draw by hand anymore .... i actually thought you drew with a tablet this actually changes everything....... my drawings by hand are 100% better then the ones on tablet tablet is harder to use a lot hard..... but you say your manag pictures done by hand? as in pencil and paper then you are on a much lower level then i..... i drew those pictures like yours by hand in year 8 which was 6 years ago..... i move to digital 2 yeras ago with that my drawings whent back to baby drawings because i had to learn all over again if i was to draw by paper and scan in it would be on a whole different lvl....

you really need to go back and pratice seriously.....

you are below me by a mile get on my level kid ...... try drawing digitally properly see how long and how much harder it is ..... :/ you seriously know nothing if you are drawing with paper.
 

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my work inst digitally enhanced at all its all draw every detail i dont use Photoshop i use a drawing program call sketch book pro it has no enhancement capabilities its like drawing on paper...... but digitally

you havent one your not even close :/ you need to go back to school ..... or listen to people when thy give advice.

you don't know anatomy well at all ....

you make me laugh you know why i dont draw by hand anymore .... i actually thought you drew with a tablet this actually changes everything....... my drawings by hand are 100% better then the ones on tablet tablet is harder to use a lot hard..... but you say your manag pictures done by hand? as in pencil and paper then you are on a much lower level then i..... i drew those pictures like yours by hand in year 8 which was 6 years ago..... i move to digital 2 yeras ago with that my drawings whent back to baby drawings because i had to learn all over again if i was to draw by paper and scan in it would be on a whole different lvl....

you really need to go back and pratice seriously.....

you are below me by a mile get on my level kid ...... try drawing digitally properly see how long and how much harder it is ..... :/ you seriously know nothing if you are drawing with paper.

Lol ok let's check all that.

1) Hasn't countered anything yet.
2) Said drawin on paper makes you inferior.
3) Thinks drawing digitally is harder.
4) Keeps ranting all the same.
5) Desperate attempts to make me mad by constantly repeating how she is better etc. (Gave me lulz actually.)

well w/e no point in dragging this on. I actually backed up my points while you just keep ranting around.

"Omg u know nothing u so bad no bones lulz drawing on paper I so good bla bla bla"

seriously... did I hurt your pride that bad? o_O
 

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You guys are both terrible artists. Not because of your capabilities, because you choose to rage over each other by making negative criticisms. It is quite petty and disrespectful. Be more constructive if you dislike someone else's art so much.
 

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You guys are both terrible artists. Not because of your capabilities, because you choose to rage over each other by making negative criticisms. It is quite petty and disrespectful. Be more constructive if you dislike someone else's art so much.

I didn't rage. I just argued.
 

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Huh. Come on guys, really? This is not going get you anywhere. Why don't you restart, and talk about what could be altered to make your work better ( don't be an ******* about it), respect each other and there respective art, and if none of this happens, suck it up and walk away. I know some peoples art is bad, but I don't go and make horrible remarks about it (as I now that they just need practice). When I show my own work, I hope other people will do the same. TCHmaster and -Roselilly-, both of you have fantastic art!!!
 
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