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If you're hoping this will be some thread about the recent chapter, sorry to disappoint you. But it's not. It's more or less just something I was thinking of and wondering if it's either a plothole, or something entirely missed.

The topic is: How much did Kisame know about "Tobi"?

I have a feeling Kisame may have known Obito was not truly Madara. I mean, it seems rather obvious. Obito had revealed his face to Kisame twice in the manga.

The first time was when Taka was allying with Akatsuki.

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The second time is during Kisame's flashback, when unconscious.

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The fact of the matter is, Kisame should be able to clearly tell the difference between Madara Uchiha and Obito.

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Kisame had both knowledge on the sharingan and of Madara Uchiha, it seems. In the scan I posted earlier, Kisame doesn't believe him at first and demands that Obito reveals himself.

Other than the way they look, even if Kisame didn't know exactly what he looked like, Obito is too young looking at this point in time to be a shinobi from eighty to a hundred years ago.

My question is this, did Obito some how deceive Kisame when they first met? Possibly casted a simple genjutsu on him?

Or did Obito trust Kisame enough to inform him of the entire plan? That Madara was dead but Obito would act out the plan and there was a way to revive him when the time is right? It would make sense, gaining a shinobi who is confused on what is truth and what is a lie by telling him the honest truth. It could change Kisame's view of Obito.

It would seem odd for Kisame to be tricked, for me atleast. He's a top tier shinobi who controls a sword that can break him out of genjutsu, hypothetically speaking. So why did Kisame believe Obito was actually Madara?

And before anyone starts saying that Kisame met the real Madara, I doubt it. Kisame defected from the village during or after the Third Shinobi War. The same time Obito "died". Kisame himself is only 32 years old, not nearly old enough to have been alive during an earlier period.

With conflict between Konoha and Kiri, it does seem like they were at war

And Madara says himself that he can not leave the cave without dying. That, and he was lacking a right eye when he met Obito. "Madara" revealed a right sharingan eye. So it couldn't be him.

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Now, I think that's everything.. So, Did Kisame know more than we previously thought he did? I certainly think he knew "Tobi" was not the real Madara.
It's sort of hard to confuse the two when looking at their faces and checking for signs of how old they are and obvious features.
 

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you do know that zetsu can change shape and form and face and stuff....maybe the part of obito that had the hokages cells(same cells that made zetsu) made him able to change his appearance
 

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I swear to god, I will end you.

You're swimming in some dangerous waters here Kaant
 

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Nice read, good thread. +rep
 

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That is NOT Samehada.

I am the only one Samehada will recognize.
 

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Overall that's impossible to confirm.


No known image of Madara exists in the Narutoverse from our knowledge. He was only recognized by Oonoiki who had previously encountered him during life. This same man not managing to notice the difference in "Tobi's" voice at the council meeting.

Other than Oonoiki, no one else really could see him and recognize he was Madara.



Also, if Madara was revived in this state of age, he would also appear to be a hoax considering he doesn't look old at all. So Obito looking young is no different.

Most likely he only could recognise Obito's face. It is impossible to know if he truly believed Obito was Madara; however, he himself seemingly wouldn't know Madara's looks on sight. He at least could know Obito's face and the presented name of Madara from what I can tell.
 

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The taste of your chakra?

Samehada only goes for high end shit.
 

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Now i know why Cuuunt is a well nickname.

Probably worth another infraction.
 

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This is hilarious. but forreal tho...yall need to chill. Stop with the murderous threats.
 

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It clearly doesn't.

Samehada and I have something special.
 

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Samehada pretends to like your Chakra, he tells me ALL the time when we go to the mall together.
 
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