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True peace? Right way? What the hell are you talking about? Have you seen how many "real" a$$holes are in our world? There is no such thing as true peace, people will never share each others though and they will never stop fighting for their pitifull beliefs. One person will always have more then the other and then they will start to steal, kill, fight just to have more. People are selfish arrogant blind greedy beings who don't want peace because they don't know what peace is ... cus they don't know what pain is. And when they get to know pain then it's alredy to late for them to change because they die a pitiful meaningless death.

And yeah ... I agree with Obitos and Madaras plan ... A eternal world in which all dreams come true is better than a eternal world in which people suffer.
wtf?
You just took this to whole another level lol.

I think the way they want to change the world is just plain ****ed up.
Me , i know what your talking about and that is true,but if someone like obito and madara came to earth and did the sh-t they are doing now?
I want you to think about this?
Would they be your hero or your enemy?

They are trying to achieve peace by creating a fake world.
I'd rather kill myself in real life than live in a fake world.
 

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wtf?
You just took this to whole another level lol.

I think the way they want to change the world is just plain ****ed up.
Me , i know what your talking about and that is true,but if someone like obito and madara came to earth and did the sh-t they are doing now?
I want you to think about this?
Would they be your hero or your enemy?

They are trying to achieve peace by creating a fake world.
I'd rather kill myself in real life than live in a fake world.

In real life it doesn't matter when you die cuz everyone dies anyway. You die a pointless death with nothing archived cuz you lose everything and in the end it was all pointless from the start. But in Madaras and Obitos world you will never die, you will have what you want and you will do what you want. You will be happy for eternity (or however it is spelled).

And to answer your question ... they would be my heroes cuz they would remove the bad things.
 

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Yup. My opinion anyway. I like when there are no ass pulls, but only complete skill and a bit of luck in battle, among many other things.

We talkin ancient greece as in the Epics or Iliad and Odyssey ?

In real life it doesn't matter when you die cuz everyone dies anyway. You die a pointless death with nothing archived cuz you lose everything and in the end it was all pointless from the start. But in Madaras and Obitos world you will never die, you will have what you want and you will do what you want. You will be happy for eternity (or however it is spelled).

And to answer your question ... they would be my heroes cuz they would remove the bad things.

Your body will age and die from hunger in their world.
 

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Your body will age and die from hunger in their world.

We are talking about Madara and Obito. Of course they though about this too. And the soluttion to this is Zetsu. Madara lived around 110 years throught the help of the Zetsu Gedo Mazo without drinking and eating and could live even longer but he commited suicide. And btw in the dream would you can do "everything". You can even alter the time. Second to minutes, minutes to hours, hours to day, days to years, years to eternity. You could just change 1 second into 1000 years.
 

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In real life it doesn't matter when you die cuz everyone dies anyway. You die a pointless death with nothing archived cuz you lose everything and in the end it was all pointless from the start. But in Madaras and Obitos world you will never die, you will have what you want and you will do what you want. You will be happy for eternity (or however it is spelled).

And to answer your question ... they would be my heroes cuz they would remove the bad things.
See the problem is, you would want to live in a fake world, and i would not.
I can't believe they would be heroes to you .___.
Like i said, i would rather kill myself.
 

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Its not rins death that caused all this, its the reason behind rins death. Stop saying its about rin its been stated plenty of times before that its more than that.
 

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Its not rins death that caused all this, its the reason behind rins death. Stop saying its about rin its been stated plenty of times before that its more than that.

Its about rin.
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See the problem is, you would want to live in a fake world, and i would not.
I can't believe they would be heroes to you .___.
Like i said, i would rather kill myself.

The thing is you wouldn't have a choice. You would get stuck in dream world and start thinking about your dreams and then they just happen and you would get happy. You're negative emotions and thoughs of suicide would get blown away as if they never existed.
 

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Incorrect.

Obito is not doing all this just for Rin. He is like Nagato - he has a further purpose. Both of the characters had an alteration in personality and ideals after the death of a loved one [Rin/Yahiko]. However, both possess the Rinnegan and were capable of reviving the character they supposedly did this for but didn't.. why? Because it wasn't for them - they want to change the world and make a world that follows their train of thought. Obito with a dream-world, Nagato with a dystopian society which offers pain and gets peace.

Obito wouldn't have done all that he did if it was for Rin. He founded the Akatsuki, attacked Konoha, slaughtered the Uchiha Clan, captured 7 of the 9 Bijuu and started the Fourth Shinobi World War. He wanted Project Mugen Tsukuyomi to happen and succeed.. if he didn't, why would he have done all this? All he had to do is tap Nagato on the shoulder and ask him to bring back Rin if he only cared about her. Also, Obito clearly stated - this war isn't all about Rin. Obito obviously cares a lot about Rin which is why he thinks about her a lot. It's similar to how Sasuke and Itachi think of one another quite a lot, Madara thinks of Hashirama a lot, Danzou thinks about Hiruzen a lot etc. You think about your loved ones quite a lot.. that's natural.

It is true, Rin's death influenced his change. It's what flipped the switch on but didn't Obito is now concerned with a bigger picture, world peace. Also, knowing you stubborn Obito haters or people who simply like to rant about him, the Trojan War, a war that lasted approximately a decade and one of the most well-known and one of the most influential wars in history began because a women.
 

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The thing is you wouldn't have a choice. You would get stuck in dream world and start thinking about your dreams and then they just happen and you would get happy. You're negative emotions and thoughs of suicide would get blown away as if they never existed.

Trust me, i'd kill myself. You can do whatever you want right?
Let me free myself.
 

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o3o Actaully.. Madara brain washed that crap into his mind and added onto the anger after Obito lost Rin.
 

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The Trojan War was started for a woman too. And it lasted what? Ten-ish years? Give or take some.

1. The Trojan war was mythological war. It was not a realistic portrayal of reasons to go to war.
2. I'm fairly certain that was an excuse to go to war, not the reason to go to war. Greeks didn't want to have to compete with Troy, so they destroyed it for that reason, not just for Helen. There were also religious reasons to go to war, as well.
 
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