juken does not work on the susanoo .

[Uchihareborn207]

where those this neji wankers takes the idea that the hyuugas can stop susanoo ?


this neji wankers think that by doing this

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or this

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he can stop susanoo
this has lead to the false believe that gentle fist can stop all chakra based ninjutsu.well than why did it not destroyed kidomaru golden metal (is based on chakra also)
i will explain why this is a complete bullshit.
1 what is juken ?

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The Gentle Fist (??, Juken) or Gentle Fist Art (???, Jukenpo) is a form of hand-to-hand combat used by members of the Hyuga clan. It inflicts internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System, subsequently injuring organs which are closely intertwined with the area of the network which has been struck
2. why does juken destroyed kidomaru's chakra threads ?
By releasing chakra from his finger tips neji can form a chakra needle and cut it on the part that have less chakra

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3.what is the susanoo ?
In fact we dont know anything about the susanoo. All we know ,according to the manga, is that you need to be able to use amateratsu and tsukyumi to use it.

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4. Has susanoo been confirmed to be chakra in the manga?
the answer is no and BIG no . all we have about the susanoo is the naruto database book 3
which says that :chakra takes a physical form of formidable warrior.
Just because chakra takes a physical shape does not mean that susanoo is chakra, because if thats the case than when chakra takes the form of fire it would mean that fire is chakra. (when you use a katon the chakra takes the form of fire)

this is the prove that susanoo is not chakra but actually it has chakra

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onoki says that the chakra of the monster has been stabilized (the chakra of the monster)
5. juken can stop those thread because they have chakra flowing into them and susanoo does not have chakra flowing in it and i will say it one more time susanoo have a physical form or in other words susanoo is a physical object . (just because you can stop water with water does not mean that you can stop ice with water )
6.juken is a simple a form of hand-to-hand combat used to inflict internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System using you own chakra in other words juken is just chakra release form your hands .
7.Chakra release from the hand is not an unique ability that is just used by the hyuugas. Naruto can do it ,Sasuke can do it , Chojiro can do it and let me explain why:
. Rasengan is a jutsu that release chakra form your hands and compress it and rotate it .
. Chidori is a jutsu that release chakra from your hands and make it to a spear like form and than change it's nature to get an even greater power.
.Chojiro's katana has chakra in it and he can use it to attack a foe.
.rasengan and chojuro's katana is using the same concept as juken.
8.Naruto used rasengan and chojuro used his katana on susanoo, in other words juken has been used in the susanoo. And what happened?

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susanoo tanked it and thats because susanoo have phisical form (susnoo is like a concrete wall)
9.In conclusion chojiro's katana or naruto rasengan and gentle fist are the same (release chakra and attack with it) so attacking susanoo with gentle fist is useless. And you can also defend against gentel fist with your own chakra. (The strongest chakra wins)

 

[SanjiNL]

I wouldn't say Rasengan and Choujiro's hammer is the same as Juken, since Juken actually goes inside the victim's chakra system. Nice thread anyway. + rep.

 

[straightup]

nice one man. you officially sold me. Susanoo cannot be broken by juuken

 

[Uchihareborn207]

I wouldn't say Rasengan and Choujiro's hammer is the same as Juken, since Juken actually goes inside the victim's chakra system. Nice thread anyway. + rep.

That is the only difference.

 

[Shura]

Whoever believes that Neji or any other Hyūga for that matter is capable of stopping the Susano'o should not be taken seriously. The only option a Hyūga has against Susano'o is to wait for it's user's Chakra to drain until he can no longer use the Susano'o. However, this is only an option against Itachi.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

where those this neji wankers takes the idea that the hyuugas can stop susanoo ?


Alpha:this neji wankers think that by doing this

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or this

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he can stop susanoo

this has lead to the false believe that gentle fist can stop all chakra based ninjutsu.well than Bravo:why did it not destroyed kidomaru golden metal (is based on chakra also)

i will explain why this is a complete bullshit.

1 what is juken ?

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The Gentle Fist (??, Juken) or Gentle Fist Art (???, Jukenpo) is a form of hand-to-hand combat used by members of the Hyuga clan. It inflicts internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System, subsequently injuring organs which are closely intertwined with the area of the network which has been struck
2. why does juken destroyed kidomaru's chakra threads ?


Charlie:By releasing chakra from his finger tips neji can form a chakra needle and cut it on the part that have less chakra

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3.what is the susanoo ?

Delta:In fact we dont know anything about the susanoo. All we know ,according to the manga, is that you need to be able to use amateratsu and tsukyumi to use it.

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4. Echo:Has susanoo been confirmed to be chakra in the manga?
the answer is no and BIG no . all we have about the susanoo is the naruto database book 3
which says that :chakra takes a physical form of formidable warrior.Just because chakra takes a physical shape does not mean that susanoo is chakra, because if thats the case than when chakra takes the form of fire it would mean that fire is chakra. (when you use a katon the chakra takes the form of fire)

this is the prove that susanoo is Foxtrot:not chakra but actually it has chakra

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onoki says that the chakra of the Golf:monster has been stabilized (the chakra of the monster)
5. juken can stop those thread because they have chakra flowing into them and susanoo does not have chakra flowing in it and i will say it one more time susanoo have a physical form or in other words susanoo is a physical object . (just because you can stop water with water does not mean that you can stop ice with water )

6.juken is a simple a form of hand-to-hand combat used to inflict internal damage through attacking the body's Chakra Pathway System using you own chakra in other words juken is just chakra release form your hands .

7.Chakra release from the hand is not an unique ability that is just used by the hyuugas. Naruto can do it ,Sasuke can do it , Chojiro can do it and let me explain why:
. Rasengan is a jutsu that release chakra form your hands and compress it and rotate it .
. Chidori is a jutsu that release chakra from your hands and make it to a spear like form and than change it's nature to get an even greater power.
.Chojiro's katana has chakra in it and he can use it to attack a foe.
.rasengan and chojuro's katana is using the same concept as juken.

8.Naruto used rasengan and chojuro used his katana on susanoo, in other words juken has been used in the susanoo. And what happened?

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susanoo tanked it and thats because susanoo have phisical form (susnoo is like a concrete wall)
9.In conclusion Hotel:chojiro's katana or naruto rasengan and gentle fist are the same (release chakra and attack with it) so attacking susanoo with gentle fist is useless. And you can also defend against gentel fist with your own chakra. (The strongest chakra wins)

Alpha: Actually, This would be the image that "Neji Wankers" use.

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Neji notes that things made from chakra, AKA: Physical objects made by formulating chakra can be destroyed by Jyuuken.


Bravo: If you switch to the page right after the one you displayed... notice that the Armor falls off. Jyuken destroyed the armor plating (or else why wouldn't he just continue wearing it?!). It fell off leaving him back at the initial state. At that point it would become a futile series of Kidomaru creating chakra armor, and Neji constantly breaking it.

Charlie: Actually, as Neji later notes, he can do it from any point in his body... not just his finger tips. Additionally, he was capable of doing other attacks aside from cutting the weakest point. As you provided, he can channel chakra through the strings, and he was even capable of cutting through the larger and more powerful Golden Web Arrows (notably thicker than the webs).

Delta: Actually we know a fair enough amount of info on it. Firstly, it is a Dojutsu. It is formed from the combination of the eye prowess of Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi. Itachi died because Susanoo took too much chakra to sustain: factoring in his disease as well of course.

Echo: Is it confirmed to be chakra?! No... is it confirmed not to be chakra?! No... Consdiering I can question on an equal opposite side the argument is invalid. Additionally, Jyuken has been noted to destroy things made from chakra.... Susanoo is either A) Chakra in the form of a shape manipulation, or B) A physical object made from chakra. It takes chakra to maintain (meaning chakra must be fed into it), and Itachi died because he lacked the stamina and chakra to maintain it.

Foxtrot: If it isn't chakra, but actually has chakra... then that means it was made from Chakra. Jyuken has been said to be capable of destroying things made from chakra.

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Golf: Just because chakra doesn't flow does not mean that it is automatically Ice. Fill a glass with water... it sits still without flowing, but is not Ice. It was also never stated that chakra has to be flowing in order to be countered by Jyuken. Also, while it can be said water doesn't always stop Ice... it is still possible to break water with ice: Highly pressurized, High Temperature water, or Highly pressurized Hot water.

Hotel: They are only similar in the fact that they use chakra. Chojiro and Naruto use their chakra manifested in a shape manipulation outside of their bodies. They then use the chakra to inflict physical damage.

Jyuken uses chakra to inject it and then infect the chakra or physical entity they strike. Heck, Jyuken has been used to blow up a giant spider from the inside out. A rasengan, Chojiro, or Choji would crush the spider via pressure.

To say they are basically the same is simply a fallicy.



Additionally, physical force has been seen capable of breaking Susanoo: Look back to fights with Susanoo. It was capable of being cracked by Tsunade. Oonoiki could even dismantle it. Hirudora could send it and the user crashing back.


At that point: First recall that Hirudora is roughly the size of the Susanoo used by Madara. Now look at Hiashi Hyuga's Air Wall Palm with a roughly drawn Susanoo shell based on how high it normally rests above the user.

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That's quite a lot of physical force... it is stopping something that has superior mass to Susanoo, and even a forward momentum. Considering that this is the Second Form Juubi (each form getting stronger), and it could flick TBB's... I'd recon it's defense is greater than Susanoo's defense.


That right there is an attack that theoretically surpasses Susanoo from the Jyuken style.



Also, Mei's acid was melting it. If that's the case, then it has weak points on it that the corrosive mist was capable of beginning to break down. As I've said, it is a chakra formed entity, and if chakra is within it, Jyuken can be used to break it down.


So I would venture that it is in fact capable of being broached via Jyuken.


EDIT: Looks like you did have the right image.... missed it entirely lol XD!!!!!

 

[Uchihareborn207]

Alpha: Actually, This would be the image that "Neji Wankers" use.

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Neji notes that things made from chakra, AKA: Physical objects made by formulating chakra can be destroyed by Jyuuken.


Bravo: If you switch to the page right after the one you displayed... notice that the Armor falls off. Jyuken destroyed the armor plating (or else why wouldn't he just continue wearing it?!). It fell off leaving him back at the initial state. At that point it would become a futile series of Kidomaru creating chakra armor, and Neji constantly breaking it.

Charlie: Actually, as Neji later notes, he can do it from any point in his body... not just his finger tips. Additionally, he was capable of doing other attacks aside from cutting the weakest point. As you provided, he can channel chakra through the strings, and he was even capable of cutting through the larger and more powerful Golden Web Arrows (notably thicker than the webs).

Delta: Actually we know a fair enough amount of info on it. Firstly, it is a Dojutsu. It is formed from the combination of the eye prowess of Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi. Itachi died because Susanoo took too much chakra to sustain: factoring in his disease as well of course.

Echo: Is it confirmed to be chakra?! No... is it confirmed not to be chakra?! No... Consdiering I can question on an equal opposite side the argument is invalid. Additionally, Jyuken has been noted to destroy things made from chakra.... Susanoo is either A) Chakra in the form of a shape manipulation, or B) A physical object made from chakra. It takes chakra to maintain (meaning chakra must be fed into it), and Itachi died because he lacked the stamina and chakra to maintain it.

Foxtrot: If it isn't chakra, but actually has chakra... then that means it was made from Chakra. Jyuken has been said to be capable of destroying things made from chakra.

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Golf: Just because chakra doesn't flow does not mean that it is automatically Ice. Fill a glass with water... it sits still without flowing, but is not Ice. It was also never stated that chakra has to be flowing in order to be countered by Jyuken. Also, while it can be said water doesn't always stop Ice... it is still possible to break water with ice: Highly pressurized, High Temperature water, or Highly pressurized Hot water.

Hotel: They are only similar in the fact that they use chakra. Chojiro and Naruto use their chakra manifested in a shape manipulation outside of their bodies. They then use the chakra to inflict physical damage.

Jyuken uses chakra to inject it and then infect the chakra or physical entity they strike. Heck, Jyuken has been used to blow up a giant spider from the inside out. A rasengan, Chojiro, or Choji would crush the spider via pressure.

To say they are basically the same is simply a fallicy.



Additionally, physical force has been seen capable of breaking Susanoo: Look back to fights with Susanoo. It was capable of being cracked by Tsunade. Oonoiki could even dismantle it. Hirudora could send it and the user crashing back.


At that point: First recall that Hirudora is roughly the size of the Susanoo used by Madara. Now look at Hiashi Hyuga's Air Wall Palm with a roughly drawn Susanoo shell based on how high it normally rests above the user.

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That's quite a lot of physical force... it is stopping something that has superior mass to Susanoo, and even a forward momentum. Considering that this is the Second Form Juubi (each form getting stronger), and it could flick TBB's... I'd recon it's defense is greater than Susanoo's defense.


That right there is an attack that theoretically surpasses Susanoo from the Jyuken style.



Also, Mei's acid was melting it. If that's the case, then it has weak points on it that the corrosive mist was capable of beginning to break down. As I've said, it is a chakra formed entity, and if chakra is within it, Jyuken can be used to break it down.


So I would venture that it is in fact capable of being broached via Jyuken.


EDIT: Looks like you did have the right image.... missed it entirely lol XD!!!!!

again with that pathetic bullshit
1.let me put this simple for you to understand:
juken is chakra release and chojiro's sword is chakra release and it did not work on the suanoon and end of story.
2. what juubi's defence is greater than perfect susano' defence? hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahah