Johndoesknowall's question about recent chapter Spoiler

[Johndoesknowall]

I don't know what to feel right now. I comprehend the recent chapter, don't worry but I don't like the way it went. I just want some clarification on a few things.

Naruto was only able to punch Sasuke in the end because his sharingan turned off.

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I understand that part, but when Sasuke incorporated his chidori and amaterasu/kagetsuchi together and Naruto just used a rasengan. I don't understand how he was able to counter Sasuke's jutsu. Sasuke used 2 different elements while Naruto only used chakra.

So basically Kishi is saying a 2 element jutsu combination is weaker than a normal rasengan??


(side note: I know Kurama said he fitted the chakra Sasuke has now to Naruto but that still doesn't prove the a rasengan is stronger than a 2 element jutsu. Kishi's logic. If kishi wanted to end it the right way, he should of just left it to be a normal chidori instead of adding sasuke's amaterasu and still losing to Naruto.) Not buthurt, just confused and looking for good comments to explain or agree

 

[GreenDay]

it was Kurama's Senjutsu/Chakra rasengan as i think

 

[Saikyokami]

Was a tailed beast Rasengan.

 

[Six Paths]

Didn't you read what the Kyuubi Said?

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[Transcendence]

It wasn't a normal Rasengan. It was all the remaining chakra Yin Kurama had left, AND Naruto's chakra poured into that Rasengan. More than plausible that it matched that Chidori and Amaterasu hybrid.

 

[Saikyokami]

the exact same rasengan he used here:

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you just can't tell because manga is black and white.

 

[Troyg39]

Never has it been stated that an elemental jutsu automatically takes authority over one that just uses chakra.

Aside from that, elemental jutsu, is nothing more than molded chakra. It is still only as strong as the amount of chakra you used, and in this case Sasuke didn't use that much chakra because he barely had any left. Naruto used every ounce of chakra Kurama had left so they cancelled out.

I don't see what you need clarification on. You seem as if you truthfully know this much already so I hope this isn't just to start up a debate for Sasuke's sake. This chapter will already bring about enough hate/complaining threads as is, please don't add to it

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Never has it been stated that an elemental jutsu automatically takes authority over one that just uses chakra.

Aside from that, elemental jutsu, is nothing more than molded chakra. It is still only as strong as the amount of chakra you used, and in this case Sasuke didn't use that much chakra because he barely had any left. Naruto used every ounce of chakra Kurama had left so they cancelled out.

I don't see what you need clarification on. You seem as if you truthfully know this much already so I hope this isn't just to start up a debate for Sasuke's sake. This chapter will already bring about enough hate/complaining threads as is, please don't add to it

True it has never been stated and I did not state it myself that it should automatically take authority. But there is evidence that elemental combinations are stronger than base jutsu's.

Evidence would be when kakashi used rasengan against Naruto while Naruto used a small version of rasenshuriken, yet Naruto cause Kakashi more damage. I just wanted clarification and good comments. not assumptions of you thinking I may be adding on to the hate. I do have logical reasons for my assumptions.

 

[Troyg39]

True it has never been stated and I did not state it myself that it should automatically take authority. But there is evidence that elemental combinations are stronger than base jutsu's.

Evidence would be when kakashi used rasengan against Naruto while Naruto used a small version of rasenshuriken, yet Naruto cause Kakashi more damage. I just wanted clarification and good comments. not assumptions of you thinking I may be adding on to the hate. I do have logical reasons for my assumptions.

You mean this?

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Not that much damage was done to either of them, and the size of their jutsu is almost equal, in fact, Naruto's looks bigger.

So no I don't see your logic sorry, and now I think even more so now that you did this to complain. You not only tried to twist manga evidence but it still didn't support your point either way.

I don't know what constitutes a "good comment" but either way all the explanation I could give you is in these two posts. If you still don't get it oh well. I hope you eventually find out whatever it is you're looking for

 

[Johndoesknowall]

You mean this?

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Not that much damage was done to either of them, and the size of their jutsu is almost equal, in fact, Naruto's looks bigger.

So no I don't see your logic sorry, and now I think even more so now that you did this to complain. You not only tried to twist manga evidence but it still didn't support your point either way.

I don't know what constitutes a "good comment" but either way all the explanation I could give you is in these two posts. If you still don't get it oh well. I hope you eventually find out whatever it is you're looking for

The manga only shows a page but in the anime it better shows his reaction to the pain Naruto's jutsu did.

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By the way this scene is cannon just in case you might say it's not. I wouldn't have minded your opinion on my question I asked in my OP but I do not like you assuming that I am twisting evidence and just complaining. Before making your assumptions read both anime and manga cannon scenes. Manga has more restrictions than anime due to it be only in pictures. Anime not so much.