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Well as most of you know, I'm usually the one making logical threads and clearing up misconceptions throughout the manga. But this thread is a little different.

This chapter overall was a 2 out of 5. Basically out of the chapter; Kurama is out of Naruto, Kurama requested something from Gaara, and Bee sliced off his own tentacle(Which probably means he has disconnected from his main body). That's it.

The chapter had 15 pages and 6-7 of them were fillers. Kishi added in some old guy who was the last host of shukaku and just took up space. Also where's Sasuke? This is the third chapter of Sasuke not being in it. Honestly as a Sasuke fan, I don't even care if Kurama was taken from Naruto, Kishi is really starting to slip. I actually would prefer Naruto to have Kurama when Sasuke and Naruto fight. Of course he could get it back, but it's the overall chapter that has gotten me so annoyed.

Also to the people who say this chapter was awesome or great or good, explain how and why. That sentimental stuff between gaara and shukaku was alright and wasn't a waste of time and space. But once he went back to the last host and wasted some pages, it really started to look like a bad chapter. It seemed as though he needed something to by a few pages so he can end with Naruto losing Kurama.

Honestly Kishi could have done something less aggravating and annoying than showing the old host of Shukaku. He could have gone back to the scene of Minato, Kakashi and Obito/zetsu(Zeto) or even to the kages, Orochimaru and his gang, honestly their were many possibilities. But he just slapped us with a troll gift for Christmas.

Oh kishi you troll. :snick:

Also to the members who are declaring it "Sasuke fan boy week." Stop being butthurt. All this time of comparing Naruto and Sasuke, you've always brought up Naruto's BSM/BM/KCM and also the enhances and moves that come along with it. Now that it's confusing on if it's gone you still won't admit Sasuke is stonger. You try and state that Naruto can still beat him in SM with Ma and Pa, or some state he can still enter a biju state(knowing that kurama's chakra fused with his), or that he still hasn't used all of the Bijus chakra, that he received.

We know Naruto can still beat Sasuke. Anybody can beat somebody if the get their move off on them. What we are stating is Sasuke is overall stronger than Naruto. Meaning Sasuke would win more times than actually losing. Most fans might go alittle to far with this. But when I say Sasuke is stronger than Naruto I mean Sasuke's overall ability is stronger than Naruto's overall ability. 7-8 out of 10 fights. Sasuke would win.

This is just my opinion and I state it to see if others on here actually agree with me and to get my opinion out there. If you don't agree, fine, but there should be no bashing here and if you have something to say whether agreeing or disagreeing with a post, do it respectfully.
 

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making logical threads and clearing up misconceptions throughout the manga.

This statement holds next to no merit given past discussion.
 

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Wait, wait, so Kishi is starting to slip...because Sasuke hasn't been in the manga for 3 chapters?

I don't feel like reading anymore past that part
 

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Well as most of you know, I'm usually the one making logical threads and clearing up misconceptions throughout the manga.

I stopped right here and when i saw the wall of text..
 

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This statement holds next to no merit given past discussion.

I stated this thread to be a little different

Wait, wait, so Kishi is starting to slip...because Sasuke hasn't been in the manga for 3 chapters?

I don't feel like reading anymore past that part

This was not a main reason for Kishi starting to slip. I stated more if you read the thread.
 

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Don't hate, appreciate!

The flashback of the old man being held as a prisoner was v
Rey significant, and relevant. It was placed there to show how society has evolved over the years in the way they treat their Jinchuriki, also he wasn't the previous Jinchuriki to Gaara.

Kishimoto's trying to bring the point of peace across through this chapter, and others. F you haven't noticed its a reaccuring theme showing how the nations are growing closer towards peace, and the Bijuu are become ing accepted, along with Jinchuriki in the Narutoverse.

With each and every chapter Kishimoto's getting closer to showing absolute peace in the Narutoverse.

If you don't like it, and have nothing relavent to say, than just leave it alone.

Bully much!
 

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I liked the chapter, we got to see a previous Shukaku jinchuriki.
 

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Don't hate, appreciate!

The flashback of the old man being held as a prisoner was v
Rey significant, and relevant. It was placed there to show how society has evolved over the years in the way they treat their Jinchuriki, also he wasn't the previous Jinchuriki to Gaara.

Kishimoto's trying to bring the point of peace across through this chapter, and others. F you haven't noticed its a reaccuring theme showing how the nations are growing closer towards peace, and the Bijuu are become ing accepted, along with Jinchuriki in the Narutoverse.

With each and every chapter Kishimoto's getting closer to showing absolute peace in the Narutoverse.

If you don't like it, and have nothing relavent to say, than just leave it alone.

Bully much!

Honestly I don't see that. I understand you have your way of interpreting the manga and I have my own. But if it related to anything, it related specifically to Gaara and Shukaku. It showed a relationship similar to Kurama and Hachibi have/had with their host. It wasn't necessarily about peace but about the relationship the tailed beast have had with their host.

It can be related/connected to peace but I believe the overall point was just about the relationship between host and tailed beast.

Also I know kishi is trying to bring the point of peace across, but I don't feel this is the best way to do it. If he did that then he would have to do that with all the other tailed beast aswell and not just a some of them. That's just my opinion.

Also this is my opinion and I have a right to say what I like and don't like. I also have a right to criticize because I really like this manga and plan on sticking with it to the end. If you don't like my opinions you're welcome to leave my thread.

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I liked the chapter, we got to see a previous Shukaku jinchuriki.

I wouldn't have minded that, if he didn't do it in this type of situation. Seemed more like a filler than something necessary to the situation.
 
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