JJ Madara vs DMS Kakashi

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No.



This is fanfiction. And it goes against canon. Susanoo and PS being different techniques or not is irrelevant nor does my statement imply it. PS is his full power. Lack of one eye=lack of full power. That simple.

Correct. I meant to say that without both eyes, the full power cannot be awakened, such as that Obito himself with only one eye could never be able to unlock the rarity that is Susano'o. Yes, you did imply they were different by seperating them. Either way though, there's no evidence to support that the highest level of Susano'o cannot be used without having both eyes. Madara stated the requirement only for awakening.
 

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By portrayal, Madara is stronger. Having all of the Juubi's chakra and being its jinchuuriki is stronger than having just a portion of Rikudou's chakra. Kakashi can't see Limbo so that hard counters kamui. Madara has a technique capable of taking out PS (Juubidama).

By feats Kakashi would win since Madara in the end can't deal with Rikudou enhanced PS, which would easily cut through TSB shield and manhandle chakra arms with slashes or kamui shuriken. Juubi Dama would bust Susanoo but...Kakashi can easily cut down the tree before they explode, or warp the Bijuu Damas with Kamui or Kamui shuriken. And if it does explode, it still does't kill Kakashi who has intangibility. Limbos are easily tanked by Rikudou PS.

If Madara can use any of these techniques he can win.
-Shinra Tensei
-Chibaku Tensei
-Perfect Susanoo

But he can't use the first two without double rinnegans, and he can't use PS without both EMS
 

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I don't get it.
Why are we making up feats for DMS Kakashi, yet no one is using an unnerfed Madara?
 

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What feats are people making up for DMS Kakashi?

We haven't seen Kakashi's susanoo durability besides it getting rekt, we have only seen one attack and that attack were shurikens not swords, and also seemed equipped for dealing with huge targets not someone like madara who is human sized and too fast for the attack. Also how does Kakashi kill madara when he is Immortal, Kamui sniping wont work as we have seen that Madara is too fast and his TSB can intercept single kamui and barely misses double kamui.

The verdict he seems to be madara can't get pass PS but the two problems with that is
no durability feat and unnerfed using jutsu he clearly has no problem using, but wasn't shown in the manga, madara can easily get past PS. If kakashi isn't in PS he gets beat by limbo easy as he has no counter.
 

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Is Madara going to stand there like an idiot like he did in the manga or actually fight??



"Oh I see enemy in front of me, maybe i should attack them.. oh no i'll just stand here and try to tank w.e they got " Hurr dhurr

lmao this ^^

god damn you kishi.
 

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KG makes some good reading material for on the shitter when he goes "Ima 'splain some shit to u" mode
 

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Underlined is not only an assumption, it goes against the context nor does it make any sense whatsoever. Madara's literal words were "full potential". Literally has nothing to do with the number of abilities. "Full" doesn't refer to a filled cup when used in the statement "Full Power". Full Power=Strongest Power. That simple.

Madara stated his full power was PS. Clear example.




Wrong.

-Yes. Obito referred to Madara's statement when he said that you need both Sharingan to unleash their true power.

-Not sure where the "Madara implied he was talking about his sharingan part" came from when there was no implication. It was an outright statement.

-They are talking about Sharingan.
-He points to his right eye. (Sharingan)
-Says he needs a left eye (Sharingan)
-Says that the reason for that is because both eyes together unleashes their true potential.

-Madara did "correct" Obito, but he clearly didn't do it in the way you are saying he did. He didn't correct him by saying that Rinnegan shows it's true power when both eyes are together, not the Sharingan. He corrected him by saying that the eye in question at the moment is the Rinnegan, not the Sharingan.



Not sure why you are deliberately changing up the quote here. He stated "No, it's not a Sharingan, it's a Rinnegan". Which further proves my point.

1. Madara tells Obito he'll get his left Rinnegan eye back.
2. Obito then replies by asking him if he's interested, and then tells him that the Sharingan shows it's true power when both eyes are together.
3. Madara, who was talking about Rinnegan from the start, tells Obito that it's not a Sharingan, that it's a Rinnegan. "IT" refers to the Rinnegan eye in Obito's head. THAT is what Madara was referring to.
4. Obito replies by saying that he was talking about his set of Mangekyo, not the Rinnegan.

You keep telling me that Madara corrected Obito by saying that Sharingan doesn't show it's true power with both eyes, but that is obviously not what he was correcting. He was talking about Rinnegan. Obito mentioned Sharingan. Madara thought Obito meant to say Rinnegan. Obito was actually referring to Sharingan.

Then there's the fact that Madara already clearly stated that Sharingan shows it's true power when both eyes are together. Your premise makes zero sense for the sole fact that we'd have to assume Madara was lying when he told Obito this tidbit of information, and we have to assume that despite Madara "correcting Obito by telling him the Sharingan doesn't show it's true power with both eyes", Obito carries on with his statement, hence "No, I mean this". Not sure why you are saying he referred to Kamui alone when he was obviously referring to the full set of eyes. The context can't be clearer.

-The whole chapter is even called Two Mangekyo.
-Despite the "correction", once again, Obito carries on and says that he's referring to his two MS. If Madara was correcting him on what you think he was correcting him on, then Obito wouldn't have said "No, I mean this".
-Madara already stated that the Sharingan show their true power together, which should've ended this debate.
-Obito says he needs to reach Kakashi since their eyes will work better as a pair.

Ok, I get it now.
 
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