[Theory] JJ Madara not using PS was due to Plot

Senju Bean

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 3, 2013
Messages
5,133
Reaction score
448
Imagine how strong he would be had he used PS.


Never before have we seen a Juubi Jin use PS. It would be much greater than Sasukes.

Madara could have used it at any time but decided to go easy due to plot.


If Madara had PS on, BZ wouldn't even be able to backstab.
 

DaemonSpade

Banned
Joined
Dec 7, 2014
Messages
437
Reaction score
31
he had omnyudon shield which is >>>>> susanoo, nevertheless, Madara got backstabbed and lost due to his arrogance.
 

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
he had omnyudon shield which is >>>>> susanoo, nevertheless, Madara got backstabbed and lost due to his arrogance.

Minato captured them in his fight with Might Gai. I agree on the arrogance part. He became reckless and let his guard down the moment after absorbing the God tree and becoming immortal. Tehn even more of it shown when he retook his left Rinnegan eye from Obito.
 
Last edited:

DaemonSpade

Banned
Joined
Dec 7, 2014
Messages
437
Reaction score
31
Minato captured them in his fight with Might Gai. I agree on the arrogance part. He became reckless and let his guard down the moment he retook his left Rinnegan eye from Obito.

oh thats right minato took his omnyudon balls, bad luck, madara couldve at least stayed inside ribcage.
 
Last edited:

Limbo

Banned
Elite
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
6,889
Reaction score
589
Madara was finally about to get serious and plot had to step in

You must be registered for see images



Madara was not once serious after being revived, just as he got serious, he was taken out by BZ
 

Zealous Sparks

Banned
Legendary
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
12,960
Reaction score
1,481
he had omnyudon shield which is >>>>> susanoo, nevertheless, Madara got backstabbed and lost due to his arrogance.
A Gudou Dama shield is greater in defense than any non-Rikudou enhanced Susano'o or Bijuu Avatar with Senjutsu.

We don't know if Madara could use PS as a Juubi Jin. Obito was restricted in his MS's phasing ability, so we can't say for certain that PS would be usable.

Either way, Madara's PS as a Juubi Jin would probably be slightly above Sasuke's Rinnegan PS, but lower than the Bijuu Susano'o.
 

Limbo

Banned
Elite
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
6,889
Reaction score
589
A Gudou Dama shield is greater in defense than any non-Rikudou enhanced Susano'o or Bijuu Avatar with Senjutsu.

We don't know if Madara could use PS as a Juubi Jin. Obito was restricted in his MS's phasing ability, so we can't say for certain that PS would be usable.

Either way, Madara's PS as a Juubi Jin would probably be slightly above Sasuke's Rinnegan PS, but lower than the Bijuu Susano'o.

Obito's Kamui was nerfed cause the Juubi cannot go through Dimensions, PS has nothing to do with dimensions, he would be able to use it.

How come it would be below the bijuu susano?
 

Tantalus Thief

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 15, 2014
Messages
9,095
Reaction score
755
A Gudou Dama shield is greater in defense than any non-Rikudou enhanced Susano'o or Bijuu Avatar with Senjutsu.

We don't know if Madara could use PS as a Juubi Jin. Obito was restricted in his MS's phasing ability, so we can't say for certain that PS would be usable.

Either way, Madara's PS as a Juubi Jin would probably be slightly above Sasuke's Rinnegan PS, but lower than the Bijuu Susano'o.

Obito could not phase because the Juubi was too large
 

Dondaime Hokage Naruto

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jun 9, 2013
Messages
1,758
Reaction score
104
A Gudou Dama shield is greater in defense than any non-Rikudou enhanced Susano'o or Bijuu Avatar with Senjutsu.

We don't know if Madara could use PS as a Juubi Jin. Obito was restricted in his MS's phasing ability, so we can't say for certain that PS would be usable.

Either way, Madara's PS as a Juubi Jin would probably be slightly above Sasuke's Rinnegan PS, but lower than the Bijuu Susano'o.

I agree with what others said about Obito. But his Susanoo would be more powerful than Bijuu Susanoo. Because Madara had PS before with EMS, imagine the chakra of the real Rinnegan + Juubi & Shinjuu Chakra (way more than the chakra that Sasuke absorbed, since Madara is the Juubi's Jin and can use its full chakra and has Holy Tree) + Rikudo Senjutsu enchancing it! Sasuke;s Susanoo after he got Rikudo Chakra from it's Final form (small compared to Madara's Final form) went to PS and with some of the bijuu's chakra to Bijju PS. Madara's which was a PS with all of this would be more powerful!
 

LUMOS ULTIMATUM

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
May 29, 2013
Messages
3,277
Reaction score
338
BZ stab is nonsense. Even if Madara didn't expect his own will to betray him, he should have sensed BZ's murder intent as a Juubi jinchuriki. Kishi really nerfed Madara. He already had sensing skills before being a Jin. This should have been heightened when he absorbed the Juubi which is the most powerful creature. Arguably, his sensing should be at least as great as Naruto(intent sensing) if not better.

OT: Plot required Madara/Obito to not use their full arsenal. There is no proof that Madara could not use his susanoo.
 
Last edited:

Itachi 4 life

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,498
Reaction score
196
BZ stab is nonsense. Even if Madara didn't expect his own will to betray him, he should have sensed BZ's murder intent as a Juubi jinchuriki. Kishi really nerfed Madara. He already had sensing skills before being a Jin. This should have been heightened when he absorbed the Juubi which is the most powerful creature. Arguably, his sensing should be at least as great as Naruto(intent sensing) if not better.

OT: Plot required Madara/Obito to not use their full arsenal. There is no proof that Madara could not use his susanoo.

Obito couldn't Kamui phase because Juubi can't travel through dimensions like that.PS does not travel through dimensions.
And Madara can't sense Negative intentions, only Kurama's jins can do that, Madara has the Juubi&Shinju,not Kurama.
 

SkyGodHorus

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
3,132
Reaction score
306
Imagine how strong he would be had he used PS.


Never before have we seen a Juubi Jin use PS. It would be much greater than Sasukes.

Madara could have used it at any time but decided to go easy due to plot.


If Madara had PS on, BZ wouldn't even be able to backstab.

He didn't use it because he didn't have both eyes until it wasn't needed.
 
Top