Jition too overrated

[Brooks]

Well it's only a matter of chakra. We still don't know if Muu was able to recreate it on that scale.

Besides Onoki uses it on a similar/greater scale where he destroyed the flower tree world and he didn't have people give him chakra in that one.

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Okay, i give to Onoki credit for that, but we still was are talking about 25 big Susanoo's..just one of them is the size of half of a mountain.

 

[Brooks]

Trying to underrate Jinton now? What you say is total BS. Only Tsunade was giving him chakra, and that was only because Onoki was out of chakra. So Onoki at full power can probably create such a Jinton. The others were only there for the other combination to attack Madara directly

Lol, and you say what i said was BS.

 

[blazekev90]

Okay, i give to Onoki credit for that, but we still was are talking about 25 big Susanoo's..just one of them is the size of half of a mountain.

that's just Kish trolling, the jutsu is the shyt.

 

[Lightbringer]

Okay, i give to Onoki credit for that, but we still was are talking about 25 big Susanoo's..just one of them is the size of half of a mountain.

Yeah but the mokuton spread across the whole battlefield, we see even the 25 Susanoo paled in comparison to it's size

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[LolaxXx]

Jinton easily overpowers any jutsu it has ever faced. Can destroy single susanoo with ease, and can easily destroy woodstyle, which quite frankly isnt that easy to defeat

 

[regii sanguinis]

actually, no.. Jinton is not overrated..

first and foremost, Tsunade was the only one giving Onoki chakra.. that is why he said "More Princess!" the 3 other were behind them because they are planning their own attack.. after Onoki's jinton destroyed the 25 Susanoos, he create an opening which launched Mei's massive Water Dragon, infused with Gaara's sand and A's lightning.. that was their plan of attack and formation..

the range and size of the Jinton was more of a credit to Tsunade because it was her chakra that allowed Onoki to perform such a large scale jutsu.. but nevertheless, that fact doesn't change anything in the nature and lethality of Onoki's jinton.. same can be said with Kakashi.. people tends to get awe so much of Kakashi absorbing Gyuki with his Kamui, despite the fact that Kakashi could have never performed such a feat without Kurama lending him some chakra.. but that does not lessens Kakashi's skill with his jutsu nor its effectiveness..

and the most important fact is that Madara is an edo.. Naruto, Kakashi, Bee and Gai was fighting Obito all this time while the 5 Kages delayed Madara for a while.. yes, they failed.. why, simple because they are mortals with limited chakra who is fighting an immortal who possess the abilities of 2 of the most powerful ninjas in history.. most importantly, Madara has acknowledge their power and even said that they are worthy of the Kage name, a title which it seems that even him holds some respect too..

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unlike the two "Flies" he deems the others to be..

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[ANONYMOUS 182]

agreed!!

 

[Kumomi]

Who said anything about insluting?

My argument was very clear becuase people say "Jition destroyed 25 Susanoo's" so it can destroy everything which proof's my point since Onoki can't create such Jition without the other 4 Kages Chakra.

Your own "proof" goes against your "argument"
As people have already pointed out, it was ONLY Tsunade giving chakra to Onoki. Look again at the first page you've presented us.
Also, it is fact that he could have (and has in the past) created a Jinton of similar power without even using up anywhere near all of his chakra. But as Onoki himself stated, "I don't have much chakra left, so consider this to be my last attack!" Look yet again at that first page.
He is LOW on chakra, so therefore cannot use his Jinton to such an effect without MORE chakra, from which he borrows solely from Tsunade.
What you are trying to say is that Onoki is an overrated Jinton user because you don't believe he can possibly create a Jinton as the one shown destroying the 25 Susano'o. Because of the evidence you've presented here, it's safe to assume that your argument is incorrect. Jinton is not overrated, nor is Onoki as a Jinton user based on what you've presented us.

 

[Brooks]

Your own "proof" goes against your "argument"
As people have already pointed out, it was ONLY Tsunade giving chakra to Onoki. Look again at the first page you've presented us.
Also, it is fact that he could have (and has in the past) created a Jinton of similar power without even using up anywhere near all of his chakra. But as Onoki himself stated, "I don't have much chakra left, so consider this to be my last attack!" Look yet again at that first page.
He is LOW on chakra, so therefore cannot use his Jinton to such an effect without MORE chakra, from which he borrows solely from Tsunade.
What you are trying to say is that Onoki is an overrated Jinton user because you don't believe he can possibly create a Jinton as the one shown destroying the 25 Susano'o. Because of the evidence you've presented here, it's safe to assume that your argument is incorrect. Jinton is not overrated, nor is Onoki as a Jinton user based on what you've presented us.

I'm meant most people say "it can destroy everything else since it destroyed 25 Susanoo's"...my bad

 

[Kumomi]

I'm meant most people say "it can destroy everything else since it destroyed 25 Susanoo's"...my bad

Oh ok, sorry. I haven't seen people on NB saying stuff like that. It COULD be true, but there's no real evidence to prove or disprove that that I can think of at the moment. I suppose to say it can destroy "everything" is impossible, because if what's been said about Shikotsumyaku (Kimimaro's kekkei genkai) is true, then Kimimaro's skeletal structure is completely and entirely indestructable.
Sorry if I came across as rude before. Rereading my previous post I kinda sound like a jerk lol. I do that a lot unintentionally when I'm tired, and it's 1:20am here so yeah :|

 

[Brooks]

Oh ok, sorry. I haven't seen people on NB saying stuff like that. It COULD be true, but there's no real evidence to prove or disprove that that I can think of at the moment. I suppose to say it can destroy "everything" is impossible, because if what's been said about Shikotsumyaku (Kimimaro's kekkei genkai) is true, then Kimimaro's skeletal structure is completely and entirely indestructable.
Sorry if I came across as rude before. Rereading my previous post I kinda sound like a jerk lol.

Nope, it's cool man..we all make mistakes now and then.

 

[regii sanguinis]

I'm meant most people say "it can destroy everything else since it destroyed 25 Susanoo's"...my bad

i'm sorry but from your post, i we think you are trying to say is that, Onoki's jinton only managed to destroy 25 susanoos was because he got help for the 4 other kages.. which is simply not true..

let me quote you OP post

Yes, i said it and i'm not hating on the Jutsu...people say things like 'Jition destroyed 25 Susanoo's" so it can destroy most things with ease...that's wrong and let me explain why.

The only reason Onoki was able to destroy those 25 Susanoo's with Jition was becuase the whole 5 Kages put their Chakra together in order to mke such Jition and people forget to give the credit to the other 4 Kages and not Onoki alone so what that means is Onoki can't create that Jition by himself without the other 4 Kages giving their Chakra to him and i hope people understand this.

what we think is clear in this post is

A.) You think that Jinton can indeed destroy anything since you gave a support statement regarding the 4 other kages
B.) You think that Jinton's effectivess is affected with the chakra of the 4 other kages

that is how i think your post meant.. i'm really sorry, but i was just answering something that i thought was your query..

 

[Anorien16]

Most people are not considering Onoki's age into the argument.....

Can a old man with arthritis use a sword as effectively as a young man with the same sword?

Jinton is a weapon, it depends on the user for its effectiveness.

 

[ogilvan]

Look at the back...the other 3 Kages are standing the back of Tsunade like she is standing in the back of Onoki...why else would they stand there?

preparing for their own attacks which they perform gaara the sand with water from mizukage and the raiton from the raikage , you can only give somoeone else chakra by touching them.

 

[Horus]

Tsunade was the only person giving him chakra, and the jutsu itself isnt overrated but it is overpowered as it can disintegrate almost anything but the user thimself is overrated

 

[KidGamer65]

None of this matters nor does it prove that Jinton is overrated as you claim.

When we judge Jinton, we judge its ability to destroy, thats it.

The fact that a Jinton attack was able to vaporize 25 Susanoo with or without some chakra help from Tsunade says a lot about the Jutsu.

This would have made more sense if it were a Onoki is overrated thread.

BTW Only Tsunade pumped chakra into Onoki, not all of the Kages.

 

[hanothemano]

Jition is a very powerful technique (like a kekki genkai) and quite troublesome. If not for tobi sauske would've been vaporised by it so if a 1-hit ko isn't strong enough then what is? :|

 

[zinescience]

jinton is really that strong.

 

[kabutosnakecloak1]

you cant say its overrated.jiton is a very powerful kekkei genkai but it takes to much chakra too use in that scale u say.anyway i think is one of the most powerful outhere

 

[ogilvan]

and to correct things even more jinton isn't a kekei genkai ( = 2 chakra natures together ) but a kekei tōta ( = 3 chakra natures together ) it usses 3 natures ( earth , wind and fire )