Jiraiya's Sennin Mode wasn't perfect, but it was the STRONGEST!

[iSpeak the Truth]

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I usually don't like to talk about Jiraiya, I'm still not completely over his death it seems.

But I wanted to bring this up because a lot of people are just underestimating Jiraiya in this form. This Sennin Mode is by far the strongest there is!

For multiple reasons:

1. Jiraiya has close to infinite Sage chakra in this mode, no limits whatsoever.

2. Jiraiya has the two strongest and actual Sage's of Mount. Myobokuzan attached to his shoulders.

3. The combined power of Shima and Fukasaku is unmatched! They are, in every sense of the word, Over Powered!

4. Not only can Jiraiya dish out his own Nature energy enhanced attacks, but Shima and Fukasaku have their own unique and devastating arsenal!

Make no mistake, nothing can take this form of Jiraiya head on and win.

Asura Pain is undetectable because of his composition. His sneak attack was aimed at destroying Jiraiya's arm to cripple his ability to perform Jutsu.

Jiraiya had also believed Pain to be dead. He thought he had killed him himself, Jiraiya's guard was down.

Pain won because of his secret and because he didn't fight with all 6 Paths from the beginning.U_U

 

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I know this. :ice:

 

[Serotonin]

Kabuto has many better techniques than him.

with almost zero prep time.

jiraya can't sense chakra.

 

[straightup]

agreed, jiraiya was a beast and he will always be a beast.

 

[Itachirules]

Obviously bro jiraiya is a boss

 

[Ender Wiggin]

That is the truth

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

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Fukasaku said that Naruto's Sage mode surpassed Jiraiya's


The technique variety does not add up to the Sage mode - it is his own agenda .

Sage mode is the State where you get power - and Jiraya entered it with a certain amount of risk every time - and the prep time ?

R u joking ?

 

[Edo Odin]

I do agree, the fact that Naruto's SM has a time limit and the fact that Jiraiya doesn't should be enough to support that statement. The only advantage Naruto has that Jiraiya doesn't seem to be sensing abilities. (Or wasn't it ? )

And yeah, Jiraiya would totally have won all at once That is, if you take hype with no support whatsoever as a fact.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Kabuto has many better techniques than him.

with almost zero prep time.

jiraya can't sense chakra.

Of course he can sense chakra! Sage mode can sense chakra. Asura Pain was undetectable, cuz he doesn't use chakra, he is a machine.

 

[Minator93]

Naruto's far better U_U

The manga says Naruto surpassed Jiraya U_U

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Another fail from you...nothing new.

 

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

I do agree, the fact that Naruto's SM has a time limit and the fact that Jiraiya doesn't should be enough to support that statement. The only advantage Naruto has that Jiraiya doesn't seem to be sensing abilities. (Or wasn't it ? )

And yeah, Jiraiya would totally have won all at once That is, if you take hype with no support whatsoever as a fact.

Jiraiya's did not have the time limit as he had no restrictions to Merge with Fukasaku and Ma

the fact that Naruto can go into Sage mode without them In battle is a bigger contradiction to this theory

And imagine if he could merge with the toads ? - and i Bet he can now that he is friends with the Fox

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

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Fukasaku said that Naruto's Sage mode surpassed Jiraiya's


The technique variety does not add up to the Sage mode - it is his own agenda .

Sage mode is the State where you get power - and Jiraya entered it with a certain amount of risk every time - and the prep time ?

R u joking ?

So you still haven't realized why Naruto's SM surpasses Jiraiya's. Naruto can enter SM without anyone's help, he doesn't acquire frog characteristics. Naruto's SM is perfect.

Jiraiya had an imperfect Sage Mode. He needed Fukasaku and Shima for his Sage Mode.

But Jiraya's SM is the strongest there is. He has no limits and he has the Two Great Sage's on his shoulders.

 

[Itachi Rane]

100% agreed bro! The reason naruto could beat pein was that he already knew all of pein's secrets before battling him. Kakashi and jiraiya had analysed pein's moves and kakashi also analysed that there is a 5 sec intervel b/w consecutive shinra tensei or bansho tennin. and once pein's secrets are known, he can be defeated quite easily because each of the pein's had only a unique type of move. On the other hand jiraiya went to challenge pein on his own, without having any intel, and he was able to analyse pein's weakness whilst battling them....the reason he lost was the fact that pein hid three more bodies and made him believe that there were only 3 peins......plus jiraiya can use frog combo techniques with pa and ma. On the other hand naruto can't. So SM jiraiya>SM naruto.

 

[blackstar9]

I think its better then naruto sage mode because of ma and pa . However pa said that naruto surpassed pervy sage !

 

[Insidious Smile]

Agree with the OP. It'll save you time, and you wont have to look for manga pages to prove him wrong.

 

[Itachi Rane]

Naruto's far better U_U

The manga says Naruto surpassed Jiraya U_U

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Another fail from you...nothing new.

Manga will always say naruto has surpassed everyone...he is the main character after all....even if he farts manga will say that he has surpassed every1. So that's very trivial. you need to focus on the more important things which appear less obvious.....

 

[Serotonin]

Of course he can sense chakra! Sage mode can sense chakra. Asura Pain was undetectable, cuz he doesn't use chakra, he is a machine.

Asura path does have chakra receivers therefor uses chakra.

 

[ballerjordan]

Naruto can fuse with Shima and Fukasaku now.
/thread

 

[Minator93]

Manga will always say naruto has surpassed everyone...he is the main character after all....even if he farts manga will say that he has surpassed every1. So that's very trivial. you need to focus on the more important things which appear less obvious.....

Then quit reading it U_U

 

[~MC117~]

Manga will always say naruto has surpassed everyone...he is the main character after all....even if he farts manga will say that he has surpassed every1. So that's very trivial. you need to focus on the more important things which appear less obvious.....

But it is truth that he surpassed him...
He is a perfect sage, even the old little toad guy said that...

To OP: Well jiraiya is a boss but Naruto's and kabuto's sage mode are better.