Jiraiya vs Sasori and Deidara

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Location: Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Naruto vs. Orochimaru and Kabuto
Intent: To kill
Intel: Akatsuki duo have intel Jiraiya's skill with summonings; Jiraya has intel on Sasori's poison-drenched arsenal and Deidara's C4
Starting distance: 50 meters
Restrictions: C0

- Sasori starts with the Third Kazekage out.
- Jiraiya has one antidote.
 

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Jiraiya could solo either of them, but together?

Sasori and Deidara take this imo.
 

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Jiraiya should win this but maybe im underrating Deidara but Sasori is 0 infront of Jiraiya.
 

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Sasori solo''s, Deidara solo's.
 

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Jiraiya definitly wins on one-on-ones...
But together they definitly win this.
 

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Together akatsuki wins, jiraiya beats either of them alone though.
 

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Both at the same time is too much for Jiraiya. Start Jiraiya in SM then things get interesting.

Sasori solo''s, Deidara solo's.

Dude...no...
 

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To be honest, I think Jiraiya wipes the floor with those two if he starts in sage mode. I wanted to see if someone could make an argument for base Jiraiya here.
 

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Sasori and Deidara do actually solo.

> Genjutsu useless on Sasori
> His close combat is useless on Sasori's puppet body and Deidara's flight
> Summons are just a massive target to Deidara's bombs and Sasori's poison, so without them how can he prep. SM?
> Lava is useless due to both parties capable of flight

If you actually look at it, there'a nothing there for Jiraiya. Nothing.
 

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Sasori and Deidara do actually solo.

> Genjutsu useless on Sasori
> His close combat is useless on Sasori's puppet body and Deidara's flight
> Summons are just a massive target to Deidara's bombs and Sasori's poison, so without them how can he prep. SM?
> Lava is useless due to both parties capable of flight

If you actually look at it, there'a nothing there for Jiraiya. Nothing.

It isn't soloing if 2 or more allies combine their efforts to beat an opponent... And there is no way either Akatsuki comes out alive in a 1v1 with Jiraiya...
 

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It isn't soloing if 2 or more allies combine their efforts to beat an opponent... And there is no way either Akatsuki comes out alive in a 1v1 with Jiraiya...

I know what soloing is. I was just pointing out the advantages the both have over him. And they are. If you feel like putting up an arguement go ahead.
 

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Deidara def solos

Not so sure about Sasori however its a high diff fight either way


Together Jiraiya gets beaten easily
 

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Because we don't have judged and you only ended up posting a week before the debate tourney was suggested.

Okay we can continue it after after the tourney if you're still interested (I might not be.) or if we go against each other in the tourney though it's unlikely that we'll both make it to the final round.
 

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Okay we can continue it after after the tourney if you're still interested (I might not be.) or if we go against each other in the tourney though it's unlikely that we'll both make it to the final round.

True. And forget the tourney, how the hell does Jiraiya defeat Deidara? He has 0 ways of accomplishing that, unless it's a stationary, limb restricted Deidara.
 

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1 on 1: SM Jiraiya > Sasori > Base Jiraiya > Deidara

but on-topic, jiraiya prolly loses this scenario 70/100 times
 
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True. And forget the tourney, how the hell does Jiraiya defeat Deidara? He has 0 ways of accomplishing that, unless it's a stationary, limb restricted Deidara.

If you're asking how he kills Deidara, he does it with Food Cart Destroyer, Toad Oil Flame bullet, Raging Lion's Mane, Rasengan, and a half dozen other different ways but I'd prefer if you put up an argument first and gave me something to counter since most on this thread agree that Jiraiya > Deidara and Sasori individually.
 
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