Jiraiya vs Orochimru who wins ???

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Dęvîa Puęrî

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Last I checked when he tried to bring him back that was talk no jutsu except that I could be wrong but I think Orochimaru was attacking Jiraiya and and Jiraiya was trying to talk
and you are discounting Jiraiya with ma and pa on his shoulders which add 2 powerful combatants to Jiraiya's side along with unlimited sage mode
He said he couldn't bring him back they faught

And really u said last time u checked bringing them bac was talk no jutsu so ur saying when naruto went for sasuke along with te red of them they just talked to sound 4
 

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U can put them bac in thier coffins and summon them any time u want shown by kabuto

All u need is to sacrifice one time ... Thts it oro has already done tht the only reason he had to use sacrifices again for hashi and tobirama is because he needed to free them from RDS
and where in the manga was this shown. when the edo's are sealed Kabuto cannot re summon them
 

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Last I checked when he tried to bring him back that was talk no jutsu except that I could be wrong but I think Orochimaru was attacking Jiraiya and and Jiraiya was trying to talk
and you are discounting Jiraiya with ma and pa on his shoulders which add 2 powerful combatants to Jiraiya's side along with unlimited sage mode
Ma and pa are apart of sage mode the reason why oro with hands base is on same level with sage mode is because one the damn thing take too long to get into and his ninjutsu is more then anybodies in the series
He had over 10,000 ninjutsu under his belt
Not to mention he has sage chakra himself
 

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and where in the manga was this shown. when the edo's are sealed Kabuto cannot re summon them
I didn't say sealed I said put back in thier coffin -_- it was shown when kabuto showed Tobi the former Akatsuki and then he re summoned them again to fight in the war hell he controlled mu to summon madara... Who he also showed Tobi prior the war
 

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Ma and pa are apart of sage mode the reason why oro with hands base is on same level with sage mode is because one the damn thing take too long to get into and his ninjutsu is more then anybodies in the series
He had over 10,000 ninjutsu under his belt
Not to mention he has sage chakra himself
I would be arguing the other way if you were arguing for jiraiya I think this fight is very close I also don't think Orochimaru uses Edo tensei in his fights his character is based on cockiness and arrogance (case in point his spar with Naruto) and Edo tensei is more of a cowards way of fighting he only used it against Hiruzen was to be a pure ******* thats why he didn't join the Hashirama and Tobirama's attacks or else Hiruzen would have went down fast and quick. he was toying with Hiruzen. Edo tensei is not really Orochimaru's style
 
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