Jiraiya Vs Kabuto

[NarutoKage2]

The two legendary hermit sages face off!!

Jiraiaya:

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Full health, all known abilities shown in the manga including barrier ninjutsu, SM , summons and the Elder toads.

Kabuto:

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No Edo summons, DSM any snake summons he has shown plus all jutsus he has used on his own.

Venue: Open plain


Rules: No restrictions, intent to kill


I think Jiraiya might be the perfect match up for him. Myobokuzan has a long history with Ryuuchido because J man and Oro were teammates , its sort of like the rivalry between the Uchiha and the Senju in a way.


Also, Japaneese mythology states that Jiraiya defeated the snake with the help of his summoned toad so its like a destiny thing.


Most will probably under rate Jiraiya so let me just give some points in his favor.

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1. He can escape the hermit technique and the paralyzing jutsu by escaping into a barrier then returning later.
2.With his vast arsenal of jutsus he can take on almost anyone and went toe to toe with the rinnegan whereas Kabuto had fears of doing so against Tobi
3. Summoning: belly of the toad and Swamp of the Underworld will slow Kabuto down
4. Even with his eyes covered by the scelera, his sense of hearing if anything is more acute. So Kabuto is vulnerable to the Toad song genjutsu, plus unlike Jiraiya he has'nt been shown to be able to escape into barriers.

Having said all that^ i think this an interesting fight.

 

[FlareBlitz]

ummm as far as all we know about kabuto and w\o his edo summons i think jaraiya has got this one in the bag.

 

[Raito]

No restrictions? What about Edo Tensei?

But Kabuto wins anyway, his Sagemode is even better and he has the abilities of Karin and Suigetsu.

 

[F1N1X]

WTH :|

 

[Blaze Release]

Ill get back to this thread. Cannot think straight atm

 

[Yuka]

I am a huge fan of the naruto series and I have grown quite fond of Jiraiya but hes not a character i'd get emotionally attached to anyway he was a sannin and he was shown to be very strong although he died quite some time ago but if he was still alive he would have moped the floor with kabuto,

 

[NarutoKage2]

ummm as far as all we know about kabuto and w\o his edo summons i think jaraiya has got this one in the bag.

Give reasons

No restrictions? What about Edo Tensei?

But Kabuto wins anyway, his Sagemode is even better and he has the abilitys of Karin and Suigetsu.

Re read the OP, no Edo summons. And maybe, but J man is'nt a push over either

Ill get back to this thread. Cannot think straight atm

Ok.

 

[Rock Lee Green Beast]

Kabuto Imo

 

[FloriGlori]

Kabuto, with his eyes 'closed'. Hihi, I'm so awesome.

No, seriously, Kabuto takes this without too much trouble. Manda II will crush our devour any toad Jirauya has to offer with ease. His increased perceptual abilities will allow him to dodge any attack that Jiraiya may launch at him, as well as any sneak attacks he may try. I'm sure that he could even dodge Frog Kumite, as long as Jiraiya is capable of using it, since Kabuto should be able to sense Sen-Chakra as well. Even if he's hit, his healing abilities will render it useless - not to mention his liquidation ability. Keep also in mind that he can't enter Sennin Modo immediately, but needs about five minutes of preparation where can't do anything.

Since Jiraiya has no prior knowledge to Ryuu Sennin Modo he'll easily fall prey to Senpo: Hakugeki and can hereupon easily be killed with Muki Tensei, devoured by Kabuto or defeated with a close range attack. Since Hakugeki is also numbing the body, Jiraiya's sensor abilities will be pretty useless.

 

[MarkPaul]

Jiraiya for the win. Lol u gavehim so much advantage"

 

[NarutoKage2]

Kabuto, with his eyes 'closed'. Hihi, I'm so awesome.

No, seriously, Kabuto takes this without too much trouble. Manda II will crush our devour any toad Jirauya has to offer with ease. His increased perceptual abilities will allow him to dodge any attack that Jiraiya may launch at him, as well as any sneak attacks he may try. I'm sure that he could even dodge Frog Kumite, as long as Jiraiya is capable of using it, since Kabuto should be able to sense Sen-Chakra as well. Even if he's hit, his healing abilities will render it useless - not to mention his liquidation ability. Keep also in mind that he can't enter Sennin Modo immediately, but needs about five minutes of preparation where can't do anything.

Since Jiraiya has no prior knowledge to Ryuu Sennin Modo he'll easily fall prey to Senpo: Hakugeki and can hereupon easily be killed with Muki Tensei, devoured by Kabuto or defeated with a close range attack. Since Hakugeki is also numbing the body, Jiraiya's sensor abilities will be pretty useless.

I could use the same argument that Kabuto does'nt know anything about the Toad song genjutsu, and he has no defense against it because it affects the ears no the eyes so his glasses are useless.

And dude if ANYONE knows sth about Ryuuchido and Dragon sage mode its the 2 elder toads. They have a helluva lot of experience and it would come i handy. Jiraiya has the advantage as its 3 against one with the Elder toads and they can help him out with strategy, etc.

Gamabunta, gamahiro and the othersspent half their lives fighting alongside or against Manda and the other snakes, if they can hold off most of Pain's summons they can do the same with Kabuto's.

Also, don't forget even if this is a bigger, badder Manda Jiraiya can just trap it in the Toad belly, that jutsu destroyed the multiple headed pain dog summon which was waaay tougher than Kabuto's Manda. Not to mention healthy Jiraiya can use swamp of the underworld to drown Manda.

 

[Nagato Rattengift]

I love Jiraiya, but I think Kabuto wins high dif

Their sage mode are almost equal. Kabuto has Karin and Suigetsu abilites also but Jiraiya has the experience that Kabuto hasn't.

That jutsu that gives life to objects will decide the fight. Imagine an army of living kunais and katanas going to kill Jiraiya ._.

 

[Blaze Release]

So basically let me get this straight?. You know jiraiya would lose and allowed him to start in sm?. anyway ill state a few facts. majority of jiraiya's attacks are very slow and against somebody like kabuto none of his attacks would get to him. Also note that jiraiya doesnt only have a strong enough to wound kabuto if his attack for whatever reason gets to kabuto he has ridiculous healing ability due to his enhancements but also medic ninjutsu prowess

Anyway first of all the rage technique due to its effect its hard to use ninjutsu, whether jiraiya can master up the ability to escape with the toad gourd prison is unknown, but lets say he can.

Whether kabuto was feared of tobi is irrelevant.
Summonings are more or less not needed. If kabuto can indeed control the environment he would do great damage to any summoning jiraiya has to offer.

Also that technique you speak of, the toad genjutsu has never been stated to be unbreakable and in fact animal path i believe realised it late. Somebody of kabuto's intelligent would release it in time imo.

Also you said the venue is open field. In open field sound is drowned out, but also due to the 2 older sages vocal cords not being on point, they cannot go loud enough to make the technique effective.

Jiraiya would not only have to smarter than kabuto he also has to be stronger and he isnt in either case.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

I say Jiraiya Sage mode would beat Kabutos, because Kabutos Sage mode makes him able to not need his eyes

But Ma & Pa genjutsu is base on sound
Which Kabuto relies on in his mode

 

[Gutsy]

I could use the same argument that Kabuto does'nt know anything about the Toad song genjutsu, and he has no defense against it because it affects the ears no the eyes so his glasses are useless.

And dude if ANYONE knows sth about Ryuuchido and Dragon sage mode its the 2 elder toads. They have a helluva lot of experience and it would come i handy. Jiraiya has the advantage as its 3 against one with the Elder toads and they can help him out with strategy, etc.

Gamabunta, gamahiro and the othersspent half their lives fighting alongside or against Manda and the other snakes, if they can hold off most of Pain's summons they can do the same with Kabuto's.

Also, don't forget even if this is a bigger, badder Manda Jiraiya can just trap it in the Toad belly, that jutsu destroyed the multiple headed pain dog summon which was waaay tougher than Kabuto's Manda. Not to mention healthy Jiraiya can use swamp of the underworld to drown Manda.

I'm with you man.. and that is some of the reasons i believe Jiraiya will take this fight but with high difficulty.

 

[blazekev90]

hmmmm IMO Oro is already Jman's superior in 1 vs. 1, so I would give this to Kabuto moderate difficulty.

 

[NarutoKage2]

So basically let me get this straight?. You know jiraiya would lose and allowed him to start in sm?. anyway ill state a few facts. majority of jiraiya's attacks are very slow and against somebody like kabuto none of his attacks would get to him. Also note that jiraiya doesnt only have a strong enough to wound kabuto if his attack for whatever reason gets to kabuto he has ridiculous healing ability due to his enhancements but also medic ninjutsu prowess

Anyway first of all the rage technique due to its effect its hard to use ninjutsu, whether jiraiya can master up the ability to escape with the toad gourd prison is unknown, but lets say he can.

Whether kabuto was feared of tobi is irrelevant.
Summonings are more or less not needed. If kabuto can indeed control the environment he would do great damage to any summoning jiraiya has to offer.

Also that technique you speak of, the toad genjutsu has never been stated to be unbreakable and in fact animal path i believe realised it late. Somebody of kabuto's intelligent would release it in time imo.

Also you said the venue is open field. In open field sound is drowned out, but also due to the 2 older sages vocal cords not being on point, they cannot go loud enough to make the technique effective.

Jiraiya would not only have to smarter than kabuto he also has to be stronger and he isnt in either case.

I never said Jiraiya would lose, i said i suspected that most people commenting here would say that because of the hype of the last few chapters.

Kebori Senbon is incredibly fast, so is Frog Katas, the only reason Pain was able to counter it was his shared field of vision. Kabuto does'nt have this advantage. Are you serious? Jiraiya does'nt have an attack strong enough to wound Kabuto? He can make a rasengan the size of a small house, if Kabuto took that at point blank range he'd be dead as its a huge mass of pure chakra.

Neither has Kabuto's Hyakugeik or whats it jutu been stated to be unavoidable. But the fact is the only time the Toad song genjutsu was successfully used, all 3 Pain's paths fell victim to it and were then killed yet Itachi and Sasuke managed to survive Kabuto's paralysis. And Pain had the rinnegan. Its a manga fact now Rinnegan>EMS>MS

Fallacy on your part about the sound being drowned out. When Naruto fought Pain it was an open field as well , the Elder toads were preparing their song they would'nt do that if it could'nt work.


As far as battle smarts go, Jiraiya was one of the smartest their was.

 

[Blaze Release]

I never said Jiraiya would lose, i said i suspected that most people commenting here would say that because of the hype of the last few chapters.

Kebori Senbon is incredibly fast, so is Frog Katas, the only reason Pain was able to counter it was his shared field of vision. Kabuto does'nt have this advantage. Are you serious? Jiraiya does'nt have an attack strong enough to wound Kabuto? He can make a rasengan the size of a small house, if Kabuto took that at point blank range he'd be dead as its a huge mass of pure chakra.

Neither has Kabuto's Hyakugeik or whats it jutu been stated to be unavoidable. But the fact is the only time the Toad song genjutsu was successfully used, all 3 Pain's paths fell victim to it and were then killed yet Itachi and Sasuke managed to survive Kabuto's paralysis. And Pain had the rinnegan. Its a manga fact now Rinnegan>EMS>MS

Fallacy on your part about the sound being drowned out. When Naruto fought Pain it was an open field as well , the Elder toads were preparing their song they would'nt do that if it could'nt work.


As far as battle smarts go, Jiraiya was one of the smartest their was.

senbon might be jiraiya's fastest attack, but somebody like kabuto will evade it. Rasengan whatever size cannot kill kabuto, if he doesnt evade it.

Also jiraiya isnt a perfect sage he doesnt have frog katas, not that taijutsu is harming kabuto either way. You logic behind the doujutsu superiority makes no sense in this discussion.

Its true the frogs were about to use it, but they wouldve have needed to master quiet a bit to use it because in open field sound does get drowned it.

At the highlighted part, jiraiya is no idiot true, but he isnt that smart in battle.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Mneh you say no restrictions while Kabuto can't use edo tenseis... Anyway I still give this to Kabuto.
He's got too many new powers now.Jiraiya would struggle against Orochimaru,and Kabuto is a more powerful version of him.Kabutomaru mid difficulty prob.

 

[BlackDude]

Kabuto with med diff

alot of pick will say Jiraya because they are fan