jiraiya or tobirama

Itachi Rane

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Who do you think is stronger? Jiraiya or Tobirama? I personally would go for jiraiya cause the guy fought pain alone, he didn't know pain's secrets from beforehand and analysed them while battling and trial and error method! He even killed three of the pains using sage mode, if only he knew that there were six suxh pains then perhaps he would have been even more careful. Plus jiraiya's toad summons and his frog techniques and that oil+fire combo techs are really badass. And that genjutsu using sound with the help of pa and ma toads even caught three pains. So i think jiraiya has a fairly good chance of winning here......
 

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Jiraiya by feats

Tobirama personally though
 

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Tobi.
 
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Jiraiya is my favorite character but Tobirama is a beast, from what I've witness in the last chapter.
 

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Tobirama probably.
Not sure why but I have a feeling he's a bit stronger than we expect him to be.
 

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Tobirama. The dude was hokage and senju nonetheless. Jaraiya may have fought pain and done pretty good.....but if I recall he lost
 

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tobirama....just cuz he came from an era of complete war and still remained his clan's second strongest shinobi....and by clan....I mean Senju *the strongest of them all*

Plus his amazing arsenal of water based jutsu which neutralizes J-man's fire techs. On a genjutsu level....we saw what he did to Saru.

Lemme leave aside his Edo Tensei....and say right now....he is just too badass for J-man.

From a J-man fan
 

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Guys you shouldnt discuss tobirama VS anyone, because we really havent seen his full strength yet. We shud wait a little longer until we see his full power. Im not saying this thread sucks but im just giving a suggestion.
 

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Jiraiya is one of my favorites, but We know so few about Tobirama strength, so it is hard to decide, but I will go with Tobirama.
 

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JIRIAYA!!!! For the person that was a smart alec up above I'll ask the same dumb question. Didn't Tobirama lose the same brothers that lost to Darui HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH before hating on Jiriaya realise how Tobirama died. Pain is arguably stronger then EMS Madara so I doubt that Tobirama could hang with Pain.

I'm not talking Madara that beat the Kages by the way. I'm talking plain EMS Madara.
 
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