Jiraiya one shotted two different Akatsuki members - stop underrating

[oooog]

Zetsu's words: "Itachi, he's invincible."

What's your point, kid?

Someone saying that someone else is invincible doesnt mean anything. Look at Neji. Tenten said the same thing about him, and he got beat.

When Itachi said himself he couldnt beat him, that means he cant do it. There's a mental side of fighting that as soon as ou say you lost, its over for you. Thats why Naruto never loses. well that and the whole main character thing...

 

[stoikis]

IF Jiraya enters sage mode he can defeat itachi unfortunately itachi would one shotted him before he can do that

 

[Narutopedia]

How the F*** do you post tread's?

been searching for ages

 

[Randombody]

you didnt udnerstand what i was trying to say

just because something doesnt have form doesnt mean it cant take form. expand your mind.

when i said becase itachi is the wielder

i ment itachi wouldn't use it idiotically and use it wisely with tactics :sy:

You made it sound like it would pwn everyone just cause of itachi was its wielder

 

[shohruh6]

Jiraya has much more jutsus which u didn't c. All Itachi fanboys, your hero has shown his best, but u don't know the limits of Jman

 

[Narutopedia]

Jiraya has much more jutsus which u didn't c. All Itachi fanboys, your hero has shown his best, but u don't know the limits of Jman

we have seen his limits against Pain :sy:

and we actually haven't seen the limit of Itachi so......... in you're face

 

[Icelerate]

Jiraiya didn't beat anyone except for Konan. Even then Pain was able to save her so all his efforts went in vain.

 

[Master Troll]

Tell me how he'll get past Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o and them come back to me. A sick, blind Itachi could DESTROY him. Back then, Jiraiya was just being hyped up because of his status. Notice how Itachi and Kisame kept on saying "sannin, sannin". They were afraid of his hype, not him. When Itachi was running away from the toad mouth trap he could have turned around and one shotted him, but he never. So shhh. Itachi > Jiraiya.​

You're the biggest Itachi fan boy i've ever met. I like Itachi, one of my favorite characters, but you're over estimating him -.- Itachi himself said that if BOTH Kisame and Itachi went against Jiraya, it would end in stalemate. Itachi HIMSELF, not Zetsu, that doesnt count for anything if Itachi said it himself. You can't win against the creator of Naruto himself, so your whole post is useless. Also, Tsukuyomi isn't anything if he has Sage Mode.

 

[DeathByHugs]

Yup

 

[King Of Pop]

itachi wuld beat jiriaya tsyukyuomi is enough but i agree jiriaya is underated

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

dumbass lame weak thread

since when has trappin some one means u got k.o'd

if its like dat kabuto lost to kurotsuchi and yamato beat tobi

he ain't underrated he jus isn't up to the standards anymore

foolishness j-man can't touch naruto oro and itachi let alone negato or sasuke tobi and madara are better then those three so that makes it worst

 

[iSync]

Dang to hot for this week posts .... +Rep for you my good man

 

[GUCC1GU1LTY]

Since this thread went to a itachi vs jiraiya fight then let me make this clear on their abilities and how they are avoided

 

[GUCC1GU1LTY]

Itachi Vs Jiriaya

Susano'o- Jiriaya can sink the susano'o using Earth Release: Dark Swamp, just like he did to orochimaru's snakes during the Tsunade and Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru Fight & it was shown that under the susano'o you are completely defenceless as shown when garaa pulled madara out under susano'o with his sand

Sumoning Jutsu- Amateratsu easily destroys them, no question

Tsukiyomi/other genjutsu-Can easily control ANY of Jiraiya's sumonings including ma and pa, if Nagoto can control multiple animals with his rinnegan, why cant itachi control animals with his sharingan? Kurama was controlled, Manda was controlled, the Mizukage was controlled, so the probabilty that frogs can be controlled is very high, without sage mode jiriaya will get caught in genjutsu but probally has SOME way to escape it becase he is a sanin

Giant Rasengan-This wont go thru Yata Shield but it could probaly take out susano from behind with the speed if sage mode

Sage Mode-Takes Quite a LONG time to charge into sage mode and without the speed of sage mode, jiraiya could easily be caught in Tsukiyomi or amateratsu without the aid of sage mode, leading jiaiya to his death

Amateratsu-One of the faster katon techniques in the series and with flames that burn hotter than the sun, can kill anyone in moments without the speed of sae mode and with how long it takes for sage mode to activate, Jiriaya is sure to die from it

SUMMARY: with al of the information shown above If itachi and Jiriaya were to fight all itachi would need to do is use amateratsu whuch jiriaya cannot dodge without the aid of sage mode which needs to be charged in order to use, if jiraiya can get into sage mode then he defeats itachi with speed and giant rasengan and immunity to genjutsu, but thats gunna be hard to do when you have to charge for 5 minutse and somehow strive to dodge amateratu which is impossible with his current state, Itachi dosnt even need to use susano to defeat jiriaya charging into sage mode so he wont be loosing stamina,sooooo

Itachi wins no matter what anyone says

Face the facts

 

[Redvash20]

Agreed jiraya is def on same level as itachi if not stronger... itachi stated it himself and kisame and pain even said it after his fight that he would've lost to him if jiraya knew his secret jiraya is tight!!

 

[Gouryuuka]

Jiraiya is actually one of my favorite characters for this very reason. He was carefree and goofy but he held a great amount of strength under his personality. If he was a cold blooded killer or a member of Akatsuki, then the world would have been at his mercy.

 

[Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan]

You can take form without having an " original " physical form.

 

[UnrealSoul]

Jiraya is old...Itachi is sick...i think their perfectly equal on terms of health,so you can quit with the "Oh itachi is sick and going blind *crying"...did you hear itachi bitching in every fight he had about his health?Or to top it off did you see old ass Hiruzen bitch about his old age and give up?because if he did their sure as well wouldn't be a naruto or sasuke alive.

You people put up that sorry excuse everytime their is a Itachi vs thread.You never seen him healthy and if you did well BIG WHOOOP HE HAS 20/20 damn vision.His chakra would of been the same because uchiha chakra is never a big amount and their is nothing you can do about it.I just don't see how healthy itachi is big of a threat...he just can see "better".

 

[nNoma]

Itachi Vs Jiriaya

Susano'o- Jiriaya can sink the susano'o using Earth Release: Dark Swamp, just like he did to orochimaru's snakes during the Tsunade and Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru Fight & it was shown that under the susano'o you are completely defenceless as shown when garaa pulled madara out under susano'o with his sand

Sumoning Jutsu- Amateratsu easily destroys them, no question

Tsukiyomi/other genjutsu-Can easily control ANY of Jiraiya's sumonings including ma and pa, if Nagoto can control multiple animals with his rinnegan, why cant itachi control animals with his sharingan? Kurama was controlled, Manda was controlled, the Mizukage was controlled, so the probabilty that frogs can be controlled is very high, without sage mode jiriaya will get caught in genjutsu but probally has SOME way to escape it becase he is a sanin

Giant Rasengan-This wont go thru Yata Shield but it could probaly take out susano from behind with the speed if sage mode

Sage Mode-Takes Quite a LONG time to charge into sage mode and without the speed of sage mode, jiraiya could easily be caught in Tsukiyomi or amateratsu without the aid of sage mode, leading jiaiya to his death

Amateratsu-One of the faster katon techniques in the series and with flames that burn hotter than the sun, can kill anyone in moments without the speed of sae mode and with how long it takes for sage mode to activate, Jiriaya is sure to die from it

SUMMARY: with al of the information shown above If itachi and Jiriaya were to fight all itachi would need to do is use amateratsu whuch jiriaya cannot dodge without the aid of sage mode which needs to be charged in order to use, if jiraiya can get into sage mode then he defeats itachi with speed and giant rasengan and immunity to genjutsu, but thats gunna be hard to do when you have to charge for 5 minutse and somehow strive to dodge amateratu which is impossible with his current state, Itachi dosnt even need to use susano to defeat jiriaya charging into sage mode so he wont be loosing stamina,sooooo

Itachi wins no matter what anyone says

Face the facts

In Sasuke's fight with Itachi, Sasuke managed to dodge the Amateratsu flames by moving...If you saw the Pain Versus Jiraiya fight then you know he was able to move AND even attack while he was prepping for sage mode. So then why could Jiraiya simply not move out of the way of the flames?

Well I was unaware he would just sit there and take it...even if he had trouble getting out of the way, what's to prevent him from hiding in the belly of a random toad while he sets up his sage mode?

Your points about controlling the toad summons is valid, but remember that Jiraya possesses a vast amount of knowledge on sealing and barrier techniques. I refer back to the fight between Tobi and Minato here for a moment.

Keeping in mind Minato was Jiraiya's student, we saw minato seperate Tobi's control from Kurama using a sealing technique. Given the severe speed enhancements sage mode provides what's to stop Jiraiya from using that speed to get close to Itachi and seperate his control of said toad summonings?

Let's also consider the fact that I'm sure controlling an animal with the Sharingan is not a chakra free technique. And if we're talking high level fighting and comparing Itachi's stamina to Jiraiya's then I doubt he can control these summons, defend/attack Jiraiya, and use Susaonoo' all at the same time. We know Itachi does not possess the stamina for a long drawn out fight.

I understand Susanoo' is a damn good defensive technique, and I'm not arguing that but Itachi know's his limits. He's not going to spam this technique the whole fight, at least not if he plans on controling Jiraiya's summonings as well as use Amateratsu and genjutsu techniques. If we're being realistic, then this fight goes to Jiraiya hands down.

BUT since this isn't a jiraiya vs anyone thread, I'll just say again that he is underestimated too damn much!

He is a sanin! Not some push over Shinobi. He's trained some of the strongest ninja in Naruto, and has tons of knowledge on different countries, jutsu, and organizations.

He's undoubtedly one of the strongest characters in Naruto, but his strength and intelligence is undervalued.

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

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Originally Posted by GUCC1GU1LTY
Itachi Vs Jiriaya

Susano'o- Jiriaya can sink the susano'o using Earth Release: Dark Swamp, just like he did to orochimaru's snakes during the Tsunade and Jiraiya Vs Orochimaru Fight & it was shown that under the susano'o you are completely defenceless as shown when garaa pulled madara out under susano'o with his sand

Sumoning Jutsu- Amateratsu easily destroys them, no question

Tsukiyomi/other genjutsu-Can easily control ANY of Jiraiya's sumonings including ma and pa, if Nagoto can control multiple animals with his rinnegan, why cant itachi control animals with his sharingan? Kurama was controlled, Manda was controlled, the Mizukage was controlled, so the probabilty that frogs can be controlled is very high, without sage mode jiriaya will get caught in genjutsu but probally has SOME way to escape it becase he is a sanin

Giant Rasengan-This wont go thru Yata Shield but it could probaly take out susano from behind with the speed if sage mode

Sage Mode-Takes Quite a LONG time to charge into sage mode and without the speed of sage mode, jiraiya could easily be caught in Tsukiyomi or amateratsu without the aid of sage mode, leading jiaiya to his death

Amateratsu-One of the faster katon techniques in the series and with flames that burn hotter than the sun, can kill anyone in moments without the speed of sae mode and with how long it takes for sage mode to activate, Jiriaya is sure to die from it

SUMMARY: with al of the information shown above If itachi and Jiriaya were to fight all itachi would need to do is use amateratsu whuch jiriaya cannot dodge without the aid of sage mode which needs to be charged in order to use, if jiraiya can get into sage mode then he defeats itachi with speed and giant rasengan and immunity to genjutsu, but thats gunna be hard to do when you have to charge for 5 minutse and somehow strive to dodge amateratu which is impossible with his current state, Itachi dosnt even need to use susano to defeat jiriaya charging into sage mode so he wont be loosing stamina,sooooo

Itachi wins no matter what anyone says




Face the facts
In Sasuke's fight with Itachi, Sasuke managed to dodge the Amateratsu flames by moving...If you saw the Pain Versus Jiraiya fight then you know he was able to move AND even attack while he was prepping for sage mode. So then why could Jiraiya simply not move out of the way of the flames?

Well I was unaware he would just sit there and take it...even if he had trouble getting out of the way, what's to prevent him from hiding in the belly of a random toad while he sets up his sage mode?

Your points about controlling the toad summons is valid, but remember that Jiraya possesses a vast amount of knowledge on sealing and barrier techniques. I refer back to the fight between Tobi and Minato here for a moment.

Keeping in mind Minato was Jiraiya's student, we saw minato seperate Tobi's control from Kurama using a sealing technique. Given the severe speed enhancements sage mode provides what's to stop Jiraiya from using that speed to get close to Itachi and seperate his control of said toad summonings?

Let's also consider the fact that I'm sure controlling an animal with the Sharingan is not a chakra free technique. And if we're talking high level fighting and comparing Itachi's stamina to Jiraiya's then I doubt he can control these summons, defend/attack Jiraiya, and use Susaonoo' all at the same time. We know Itachi does not possess the stamina for a long drawn out fight.

I understand Susanoo' is a damn good defensive technique, and I'm not arguing that but Itachi know's his limits. He's not going to spam this technique the whole fight, at least not if he plans on controling Jiraiya's summonings as well as use Amateratsu and genjutsu techniques. If we're being realistic, then this fight goes to Jiraiya hands down.

BUT since this isn't a jiraiya vs anyone thread, I'll just say again that he is underestimated too damn much!

He is a sanin! Not some push over Shinobi. He's trained some of the strongest ninja in Naruto, and has tons of knowledge on different countries, jutsu, and organizations.

He's undoubtedly one of the strongest characters in Naruto, but his strength and intelligence is undervalued.


Nice one i agree Itachi is strong no doubt but Jman counters his abilitys