Jiraiya one shotted two different Akatsuki members - stop underrating

[BottomUp]

yea ppl do underrate him but he lost to pain for a reason

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Tell me how he'll get past Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o and them come back to me. A sick, blind Itachi could DESTROY him. Back then, Jiraiya was just being hyped up because of his status. Notice how Itachi and Kisame kept on saying "sannin, sannin". They were afraid of his hype, not him. When Itachi was running away from the toad mouth trap he could have turned around and one shotted him, but he never. So shhh. Itachi > Jiraiya.​

Was waiting for fanboi to answer ok dude

how will he get past tsukuyomi he normally summons toads they will snap em out he counters that

Amatersau he will dodge or summon a couple toads to blockem or a earth jutsu of his

Sussano Just DODGE but itachi cant hold it for long you seen with he faught sas he used for only a little

Jiraiya counters alot of itachi just like minato because minato can do half of the stuff jman can sooooo
Itachi is strong but he is beatble

 

[Οdin]

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

We got a baddass for posting youtube vid

 

[Οdin]

We got a baddass for posting youtube vid

Yes, yes you do. But I was actually testing the autoplay setting. Looks like it worked.

 

[Robb Stark]

theyre both on same lvl (itachi and jiraiya) if i recall itach said if they faught both of them would die nn the fight..

 

[Never]

A simple Genjutsu will take out Jiraiya, he's nothing. Without SM he's useless, and Itachi has MANY ways to stop him from going into SM.

yeah but without sharingan itachi is useless...

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

Man, this guy is definitely an Itachi hater. I give up.

I can second that, madara04 gave me negative rep and insulted me when i commented about itachi. If this does not prove he is a hater i wonder what would. Also logic i would have to disagree with you jiraiya is one of the best and is the number 1 underrated character on narutobase.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

jiraiya is one of the best and is the number 1 underrated character on narutobase. I at one point used to think itachi and jiraiya were equals and i guess i still do however with itachi it is easier to prove unlike with jiraiya who has shown a very diverse arsenal but has not shown the full extent of his powers. But judging from what we have seen i can soundly say that if i think of itachi as one of the best ninja around then i equally or almost equally consider jiraiya that strong aswell.

The usual argument i see concerning jiraiya is that without sage mode he is nothing and people can stop him going into sage mode. Im pretty sure this is wrong as maa and paa frogs gather the chakra for him and thus he can maintain it for as long as they can gather chakra and their attacks are useful. Lastly i just wanted to say without sage mode jiraiya is mid to high kage level or at the least S-rank ninja and with sage mode activated it puts him alot higher and above kage level to me. Its like itachi normal and when he is using susanoo or tsunade normal and then her in super healing mode.

So please people for the love of god do not underrate jiraiya i understand that itachi did not want to harm any konoha leaf ninja and that he made an excuse to not fight jiraiya and could likely have killed him but then i look at it from the other side would i be stupid enough to think that jiraiya is not capable of taking on kisame and itachi at the same time the answer is no i believe he could, just look at how confident he was in saying im going to kill you 2 right now.

If that didnt put the fear of god in itachi im wondering what would and i guess the way itachi saw it was that they would have to waste alot of time and chakra taking on such a dangerously high level opponent that it was better to run considering either he would end up seriously wounded or jiraiya would and he didnt want that and not to mention the fact kisame could have become a casualty of the battle and itachi would have lost not only his partner but more of his eyesight due to using the mangekyou during the battle which we know he was trying not to use to stay alive to fight sasuke. So please people i understand that some people overrate itachi, however there overrating isnt exactly pure bs while underrating jiraiya is pure bs, how about respecting the character as he is a legend xd.

 

[spatha]

Tell me how he'll get past Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o and them come back to me. A sick, blind Itachi could DESTROY him. Back then, Jiraiya was just being hyped up because of his status. Notice how Itachi and Kisame kept on saying "sannin, sannin". They were afraid of his hype, not him. When Itachi was running away from the toad mouth trap he could have turned around and one shotted him, but he never. So shhh. Itachi > Jiraiya.​

well first off, your silly rant bashing jman ruined your argument. A sick BLIND itachi coul beat him? how so? if he was blind then no tsukoyumi, ameterasu, or susoono, not to mention he wouldnt even have the ocular clarity granting him quicker reactions to jmans attacks, so your stupid "jman sucks" comment ruined it. But lets assume itachi is fit for fighting...tsukoyumi? easily enough dodged, given that itachi at nearly any point had a hit on him, means they would have piles of intel allowing jman the knowledge of not looking at his eyes or ring, easy enough for a master ninja especially in SM where taijutsu is king, and in taijutsu its been written as best to look at the feet or stomach. Susoono, i could see SM jman breaking somewhat quickly, itachi never had a perfect susoono and jman has a powerful rasengan at his disposal. Before you go yammering about the yata mirror, look it up, any info on it states that it neutralizes jutsu by countering its affinity with the opposite element but rasengan has no element, no element=no blocking of the attack unless kishi rewrite the description. Totsuka sword would be of little help against SM jman since even in his imperfect version(compared to narutos) he would be far faster than the lumbering susoono. Ameterasu could very well give jman trouble, id admit that but you also must remember that even a healthy itachi never achieved higher than MS and had an arguably very low chakra pool meaning, unless he tried spamming ameterasu at the start, a few minutes of healing susoono from rasengan damage would leave him too weak to fight. Last thing id like to mention is that you also have to consider jmans genjutsu, the toad song would be far more effective against itachi than itachis would be against him...he can avoid itachis eyes and ring because thats fairly common intel, but until kman battled the paths, there had been no signs of anyone knowing about the SM techs, so he should easily surprise itachi with it, once under the tech its a fairly easy victory...i give low to mid diff to jman based on how itachi tries playing with ameterasu.

 

[Carlhens]

Who knows what would happen if those were in a fight but people need to stop saying he is underrated cause is not.

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Jman counters to much of Itachi abilitys why cant people see it itachi try genjutsu jman toads will takem out of it He amat Jman sumons toads to ptrotect em or use his earth style as protection also he cant dodgem Sussano all u have to dodge so itachi can get worn out itachi you guys prays itachi like he the main hero itachi doesnt have alot of chakara to me he have the same amount as kakashi

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

well first off, your silly rant bashing jman ruined your argument. A sick BLIND itachi coul beat him? how so? if he was blind then no tsukoyumi, ameterasu, or susoono, not to mention he wouldnt even have the ocular clarity granting him quicker reactions to jmans attacks, so your stupid "jman sucks" comment ruined it. But lets assume itachi is fit for fighting...tsukoyumi? easily enough dodged, given that itachi at nearly any point had a hit on him, means they would have piles of intel allowing jman the knowledge of not looking at his eyes or ring, easy enough for a master ninja especially in SM where taijutsu is king, and in taijutsu its been written as best to look at the feet or stomach. Susoono, i could see SM jman breaking somewhat quickly, itachi never had a perfect susoono and jman has a powerful rasengan at his disposal. Before you go yammering about the yata mirror, look it up, any info on it states that it neutralizes jutsu by countering its affinity with the opposite element but rasengan has no element, no element=no blocking of the attack unless kishi rewrite the description. Totsuka sword would be of little help against SM jman since even in his imperfect version(compared to narutos) he would be far faster than the lumbering susoono. Ameterasu could very well give jman trouble, id admit that but you also must remember that even a healthy itachi never achieved higher than MS and had an arguably very low chakra pool meaning, unless he tried spamming ameterasu at the start, a few minutes of healing susoono from rasengan damage would leave him too weak to fight. Last thing id like to mention is that you also have to consider jmans genjutsu, the toad song would be far more effective against itachi than itachis would be against him...he can avoid itachis eyes and ring because thats fairly common intel, but until kman battled the paths, there had been no signs of anyone knowing about the SM techs, so he should easily surprise itachi with it, once under the tech its a fairly easy victory...i give low to mid diff to jman based on how itachi tries playing with ameterasu.

someoene who thinks jman can beatem finnaly

 

[MarkPaul]

itachi is definately NOT above him. i agree with you. people underrate jiraiya too much. hes not one of the legendary sannin for nothing.

This.

 

[sanchy]

Genjutsu won't work on J-man. J-man taught Naruto how to break out of genjtsu. When itachi and Naruto met, Naruto tried to break out of the genjtsu but he couldn't cuz according to Itachi, he was weak. J-man would break out of genjutsu cuz he is a master, legendary sanin, and stronger.

 

[sanchy]

wait let me counter this it alot of writing hold on

u have nothing to counter this with cuz this is the truth...i don't hear u say nothing..this thread really shut u up and proves that J-man is the boss and master

 

[TopDown]

Tell me how he'll get past Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o and them come back to me. A sick, blind Itachi could DESTROY him. Back then, Jiraiya was just being hyped up because of his status. Notice how Itachi and Kisame kept on saying "sannin, sannin". They were afraid of his hype, not him. When Itachi was running away from the toad mouth trap he could have turned around and one shotted him, but he never. So shhh. Itachi > Jiraiya.​

Thank you Logic.. Finally someone who putting Jiraiya back in his place!!

 

[sanchy]

I will just post my thoughts from one of my previous threads:

Kishi made it painfully obvious that these two Kage-level fighters are equals. Yet a lot of people choose, on purpose or not, to underestimate Jiraiya when conversations regarding these two inevitable occur. I think fanboys aside; a lot of it has to do with the whole out of sight, out of mind mentality which isn’t unusual with all the awesome fights we have witnessed after Jiraiya’s death however the facts remain.

Databook scores: 35, 5 vs 35, 5.

They share the number one spot with the exact same score. They excel at each other’s weaknesses while they are also able to master the ability to shield their individual weaknesses e.g. by either entering special modes or by simply adapting their strategy accordingly. In essence they can both beat each other and most likely, most times, it would come down to minor details which would’ve otherwise been irrelevant (condition, surprise aspect, killing intent, etc). Kishi > speculation.

Itachi and Kisame’s infamous meeting with Jiraiya:

Kisame, one of the legendary swordsmen, directly admitted inferiority to Jiraiya, while Itachi claimed that he could only draw with him. These words were stated in the manga.To those who would argue that Itachi wouldn’t hurt anybody from Konoha, well, answer these questions:

Why did Itachi order Kakashi’s murder? Why did Itachi and Kisame go after Naruto? Why didn’t Itachi prevent Kisame from chopping off Naruto’s leg? Last I checked Itachi wasn’t a psychic, so until those questioned are answered nobody can trash the scan.Itachi feared he couldn't get to Sasuke, in one piece, if he engaged in an all out war with him.

Why Itachi can’t just one-shot him every time:

Besides the databook (and various statements made throughout the manga, e.g. Pain stating that Jiraiya could have won their epic battle), I will also like to point out that Jiraiya is an efficient counter fighter. His entire fighting style revolves around him being able to think on the spot, with his humongous /versatile arsenal, and successfully counter his opponent(s). This means that he won’t fight two different fighters the same, and he will specifically design his game plan around his opponent’s strength/weaknesses i.e. he will break down Itachi and realize that he should be worried about Itachi’s genjutsu. He would keep the battle long range, avoid eye contact, and last but not least summon toads and/or Kage bunshins which would raise his odds considerable e.g. Itachi would be hesitant to cast Tsukuyomi when he sees several clones in front of him, of course due to his poor chakra/health.

As I said, we have witnessed Jiraiya’s unique fighting style in a lot of different scenarios. He deduced Konan’s weakness in mere seconds and disposed of her like she was pure fodder. Which we know is false since she technically killed the most invincible man on the planet. He also knows when he is outmatched and when to actually revise your plan. Against the six path of pain he figured out the fact that he needed to separate them and actually meet them one-on –one, which is brilliant. He also realized that one of the paths could turn “invisible” so he decided to use a barrier that is able to detect movement. This again indicates, that Jiraiya can’t be caught with his pants down… unless in a bath house.

Itachi = Jiraiya

well said..absolutely brilliant...J-man isn't a legendary sanin for nothing...hope this shuts J-man haters up...i doubt it won't cuz they can't handle the truth..

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

well said..absolutely brilliant...J-man isn't a legendary sanin for nothing...hope this shuts J-man haters up...i doubt it won't cuz they can't handle the truth..

Yeah they just cant accept that jman may be stronger or on the same level as em itachi is like a god to them

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

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