Jiraiya one shotted two different Akatsuki members - stop underrating

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Really prince Charles? Cause one does simply not have loads of posts means his opionien is useless?

Now on topic.

Ma and Pa counter all genjutsu, by disturbing chakra flows. I doubt he would be able to hit all 3 of them before they could disturb each others chakra flow.

J-man is actually fast, did you see when he entered sage mode how he jump from the wall to Pein with a huge ass rasengan and his shoe didn't hit the ground before he did this. So I mean he can possibly just dogde it.

Really did I really read that " blade of tosuka hits everything cause it's wielder is itachi " man are you sure this series isn't called itachi cause it seems like he is able to beat every opponent with that sword cause it is itachi who is wielding it.

Man I can't be argued to debate I am on my phone can't post
Manga facts. I will get on pc later an debate.
 

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who said we were talking part 2. Pretty sure u were talking about part 1 this whole time. So umm fail

Ok if Amaretsu is instant, why did sasuke have time to run from it ?

Another thing, Jirayia has so many summons available making him so much more versatile

These summons can buy him time for Sage Mode and then use a sound genjutsu on Itachi

@ kral we were talking part 1 itachi for a moment but obviously im talking about the itachi who has shown all his abilities through out part 1and part 2 :sy:

@ negative knight wow i expected more from you... sigh.. looks like ill have to disgrace you

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it is instant but itachi was making it follow sasuke not appear on him.

if itachi wanted it to appear on sasuke he could have but he didnt want to kill him. :sy:
 

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sigh... im going by itachi's words you noob he said even i brought back up the outcome wouldnt change that obviously means other from the akatsuki :sy: so your saying kisame+itachi+other akatsuki members cant take on jman by himself? according to itachi. :sy:

jman are not equals :sy: :sy: :sy: :sy:

1. so sage mode jman speed is comparable to raikage's lightning armor? :sy:

2.they get caught in the genjutsu too

3.jman seals the amaterasu when its on him? ok and it doesnt take a few secs he actually has to write the scroll and wait for it to seal all the fire. :sy:

whats itachi doing while jman is sealing amaterasu? watching him and eating popcorn?

4.huh? what are you trying to say

Of course his chakra reserves got better since you know he wasn't sick lol. (its sarcasm and you clearly don't understand when your sick you don't get better in anything.)

I do recall saying itachi stated the outcome would not probably not change.

Its not a matter of comparison but a matter of who can still avoid it. Amaterasu doesn't instantly touch its opponent it travels. Jiraiya can get away from it, anyone who has seen him fight against pain knows he can. Also he closes his eye first and you can feel pressure so he knows when its coming and even sasuke was able to outrun amaterasu without sage mode.

1: It took a few seconds in the anime not a minute or two just a couple seconds. Like I said, your fighting with a handicapped character since itachi wants to die by sasuke's hands. Him going nearly blind against jiraiya isn't exactly his intentions.
 

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@ kral we were talking part 1 itachi for a moment but obviously im talking about the itachi who has shown all his abilities through out part 1and part 2 :sy:

@ negative knight wow i expected more from you... sigh.. looks like ill have to disgrace you

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it is instant but itachi was making it follow sasuke not appear on him.

if itachi wanted it to appear on sasuke he could have but he didnt want to kill him. :sy:

i agreed with u till the last point, sasuke is not dumb enough to not see when Itachi is purposely giving him the win, rather than assuming you understand his intentions, giving me the facts xd

I'm not necessarily arguing Jiraiya is stronger, nor is he a equal i'm just saying he wouldn't be fodder against the likes of itachi
 

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Really prince Charles? Cause one does simply not have loads of posts means his opionien is useless?

Now on topic.

Ma and Pa counter all genjutsu, by disturbing chakra flows. I doubt he would be able to hit all 3 of them before they could disturb each others chakra flow.

J-man is actually fast, did you see when he entered sage mode how he jump from the wall to Pein with a huge ass rasengan and his shoe didn't hit the ground before he did this. So I mean he can possibly just dogde it.

Really did I really read that " blade of tosuka hits everything cause it's wielder is itachi " man are you sure this series isn't called itachi cause it seems like he is able to beat every opponent with that sword cause it is itachi who is wielding it.

Man I can't be argued to debate I am on my phone can't post
Manga facts. I will get on pc later an debate.

since when does ma and pa COUNTER ALL GENJUTSU link please.

itachi can simply put ma in a genjutsu and make him kill jiraiya by chopping off his head or cutting his neck.

until we see its speculation that he can dodge amaterasu.


sigh i ment itachi is no fool and would use it smartly. :sy:
 

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What about Itachi's words that practically said he wasn't all that confident in taking on Jiraiya let alone beating him?

You only seem to go by the book when it suits you.

Well said.

I come back to see Prince Charles still talking rubbish. Everyone except the Itachitards can see that Jiraiya and Itachi are on the same level.
 

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@ kral we were talking part 1 itachi for a moment but obviously im talking about the itachi who has shown all his abilities through out part 1and part 2 :sy:

@ negative knight wow i expected more from you... sigh.. looks like ill have to disgrace you

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it is instant but itachi was making it follow sasuke not appear on him.

if itachi wanted it to appear on sasuke he could have but he didnt want to kill him. :sy:

It still got on sasuke so sasuke was clearly outmoving amaterasu.
 

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It's funny how Jiraiya threads always turn into Jiraiya vs Itachi hate threads.

People are talking about the mechanics of Amaterasu which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread...
 

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learn to take a hint ppl every fight cannot be shown and it won't downgrade your fav character if you accept that there are other characters on his level :rolleyes:
 

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i agreed with u till the last point, sasuke is not dumb enough to not see when Itachi is purposely giving him the win, rather than assuming you understand his intentions, giving me the facts xd

I'm not necessarily arguing Jiraiya is stronger, nor is he a equal i'm just saying he wouldn't be fodder against the likes of itachi

Of course his chakra reserves got better since you know he wasn't sick lol. (its sarcasm and you clearly don't understand when your sick you don't get better in anything.)

I do recall saying itachi stated the outcome would not probably not change.

Its not a matter of comparison but a matter of who can still avoid it. Amaterasu doesn't instantly touch its opponent it travels. Jiraiya can get away from it, anyone who has seen him fight against pain knows he can. Also he closes his eye first and you can feel pressure so he knows when its coming and even sasuke was able to outrun amaterasu without sage mode.

1: It took a few seconds in the anime not a minute or two just a couple seconds. Like I said, your fighting with a handicapped character since itachi wants to die by sasuke's hands. Him going nearly blind against jiraiya isn't exactly his intentions.

@ negative knight so.. do you agree on my point with ama being instant and itachi simply making it follow sasuke or not U_U

@ unbiased ama doesn't travel it appears on the target that is locked in the sharigan's sight.
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zetsu can comfirm this for me.

until i see him do it he can't, we can't say for sure his sm speed can dodge it like the 4th raikge's ration armor can.

erm nagato felt the pressure link me where it saids everyone can feel the pressure of amaterasu. nagato is a sensor thats why he sensed it.

um no i did watch the aime jman had to take out the seal first, then write the seal then wait for it to suck up all the fire that isnt a few secs
 

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1. dont change the subject and bring that whole so6p crap in it.

2. im not saying it can extend forever! im saying it can extend to reach the frogs or jman

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it extended to reach nagato

sigh your so dum...

ofc ma and pa can get caught in a genjutsu, even manda got put in a genjutsu by sasuke,

even fken the 9 tails got put in a genjutsu,what makes you think 2 fken frogs wont get put in one?

im not acting like he can spam ms techs noob because obviously he cant.

how does jman even get into sage mode? it actually takes a few mintues to get into it unless your saying a base jman can take on ms itachi :sy:

Wow dude.
Ok so as already pointed out ma n pa r attached yo jman. Anyone gets in genjutsu they just release it. It doesn't take jman that long tto go into it. Gambunta can travel incredible distances fast so ur saying the blade extends forever as is ur original argument? Plus itachi has to fight 5 toad summons plus any jmans attacks. Jman has high speeds and coats him with toad oil n itachi dies.
U don't have the Magna proof to show that itachi was lying cuz he wasn't.
itachi is not greater then jman
 

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It still got on sasuke so sasuke was clearly outmoving amaterasu.

because itachi was letting him, amaterasu wasnt appearing on sasuke instantly because itachi didnt want it too, itachi made it follow sasuke to push him to his limits
 

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since when does ma and pa COUNTER ALL GENJUTSU link please.

itachi can simply put ma in a genjutsu and make him kill jiraiya by chopping off his head or cutting his neck.

until we see its speculation that he can dodge amaterasu.


sigh i ment itachi is no fool and would use it smartly. :sy:

Really. The frogs don't wield weapons. You man he will kill him by hands, and I doubt they will get genjusted. They are linked to each other FFs. You disturb the chakra flow = you get out I genjutsu , didn't you see when Sakura did it to naruto in destroy leaf part 1. And when they are linked to each ( thus that's why he is able to stay in SM forever ) it will be hard to catch in genjutsu, I mean If one of the frogs got tsukyomied j-man would notice and unsummon him. Itachi will lose loads of chakra and jirayia will lose nothing.
 

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since when does ma and pa COUNTER ALL GENJUTSU link please.

itachi can simply put ma in a genjutsu and make him kill jiraiya by chopping off his head or cutting his neck.

until we see its speculation that he can dodge amaterasu.


sigh i ment itachi is no fool and would use it smartly. :sy:

Sasuke clearly outran amaterasu. It got on him in the end, but sasuke as able to do it.

Let me explain the basics of naruto too you. When you get caught in a genjutsu, if someone else disturbs your chakra, you are free. Now with that being said, jiraiya is not getting caught in a genjutsu.
 

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because itachi was letting him, amaterasu wasnt appearing on sasuke instantly because itachi didnt want it too, itachi made it follow sasuke to push him to his limits

Then why did it get on sasuke eventually? Your argument is invalid.
 

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jiraya can one v one and hold out against most of the akatski but would llose to kisame no matter what
 

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Itachi was pushed to his limits by 3 tomoe Sasuke, and people can't accept that Jiraiya, one of the legendary Sannin, is on his level, even though it has been shown many times in the manga? Wake up.
 

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@ negative knight so.. do you agree on my point with ama being instant and itachi simply making it follow sasuke or not U_U

@ unbiased ama doesn't travel it appears on the target that is locked in the sharigan's sight.
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zetsu can comfirm this for me.

until i see him do it he can't, we can't say for sure his sm speed can dodge it like the 4th raikge's ration armor can.

erm nagato felt the pressure link me where it saids everyone can feel the pressure of amaterasu. nagato is a sensor thats why he sensed it.

um no i did watch the aime jman had to take out the seal first, then write the seal then wait for it to suck up all the fire that isnt a few secs[/QUOTE

How long did it take? and jiraiya in sage mode can sense like all other sage mode sensors. Also when did the 4th raikage become the definition of dodging amaterasu, sasuke did it and itachi was focused on him.
 

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@ negative knight so.. do you agree on my point with ama being instant and itachi simply making it follow sasuke or not U_U

@ unbiased ama doesn't travel it appears on the target that is locked in the sharigan's sight.
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zetsu can comfirm this for me.

until i see him do it he can't, we can't say for sure his sm speed can dodge it like the 4th raikge's ration armor can.

erm nagato felt the pressure link me where it saids everyone can feel the pressure of amaterasu. nagato is a sensor thats why he sensed it.

um no i did watch the aime jman had to take out the seal first, then write the seal then wait for it to suck up all the fire that isnt a few secs

For the Amaretsu being instant, i would rather go with evidence instead of someone's opinion of it so i'm going to remain undecided (it would be ignorant to go with either side)

But i stand by my point Jiraiya isn't fodder compared to Itachi
 

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Jiraiya one shotted both Konan and Kisame. You know, the same Konan who was able to give Tobi trouble. And remember, Kisame was a Jinchuriki hunter. He also defeated three Paths of Pein without getting any injuries or coming close to running low on chakra.




We were even told the guy could defeat Pein and Itachi. It was said that people like Kisame were not even capable of making a difference against him, while Konan was sent home after Pein cleaned the oil off of her restoring her.

And some think Itachi is a level above him. Funny :lmao:

I'm not saying Jiraiya is better than Itachi or vice versa, just that they are on the same level.

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