Jiraiya is very underrated!!!!

Jiraiya is very underrated!!!!

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Jiraiya is very underestimated. I do believe that he can defeat Orochimaru, but him vs. Itachi would be a different story but an awesome fight itself. People have to take into consideration about whatever Pein said or Itachi and Kisame said about Jiraiya. All of those things were said for a reason just like the things said about hashirama,
Hiruzen,
and even the Sage of the Six Paths!!!!!!
 

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um, people say a lot of things, and Itachi said it because he didn't really want to kill at that time the strongest shinobi of Konoha and Pain said it from respect to his old sensei

Jiraya is overrated by most
 

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he is cruely underrated
he has one of the strongest genjutsu in the show

also his hair is so badass he can fight with it and he can even beat summoned monsters with it !

he has one of the strongest rasengan
has alot of summons
5 elements seal ( can seal and lock ur chakra like oro )

Oil and fire mix was crazy if u ask me against pain

and frog stomach ( itachi and kisame were running for their life lol )

itachi is so overrated SM jiraiya can rape him especially the fact he has almost Huge chakra stored comparing to itachi who has a limited chakra in battle and after 3 jutsus he need to rest

man itachi is so overrated glad that bastard died
 

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I think alot of people underrate him. He is a very high level shinobi, kage level at that. He is a well rounded ninja who has skills in all forms of jutsus, has sage mode, and is knowledgable of alot things pertaining to the ninja world.
 

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The Itachi > Jiraya guide (a better arguemnt than any jiraya dickrider could ever come up with)

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Actions speak louder than words: you don't turn your back on someone that to use your exhausting trump-card genjutsu, , on a broken genin (although that is something that someone that stomped Jiriaya's genius-rival might do...) We know Itachi has to Kisame about the hype he gave Jiraiya that his previous statement, and Kisame even himself. So between ridiculously false hype and databook stat totals, which are a staple argument of Jiriaya fans because Itachi has the most maximum scores of any ninja, whereas Jiraiya has very few maximum scores.Now we can move on to... Feats-stuff.

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First, if Jiraiya summon an army on top of Ma and Pa, Itachi can dodge a toad army all day who . Secondly, Itachi has to manipulate multiple targets, or he control summons with the Sharingan power that Minato needed a placed on the controller to counter. Sasuke directly stated that , but that it was stronger than his own at the time, being able to control the Nine Tails. It is the same ability, according to the databook, and common misnomer is that the power is an illusion, or that the summons are being tricked, is incorrect. The databook and Manda indicate that it isn't a trick, but a raw control:




As for the hyped Food Cart Destroyer or Yomi Numa for that matter, please note: Jiriaya said that his senbon technique was his i.e. his hardest jutsu to evade. The databook text of Food Cart Destroyer does say "right above". However, it means right above as "in a straight line above". The Japanese word is 真上 (ma-ue). There is no implication of distance, other than the mentioned several hundred-foot dive. This is why it has only ever been used on giant creatures, and not tiny ninja, because the ninja have a great deal more time to react. Moreover, the Sharingan determines the of a technique, and would see it coming. Moreover, Jiriaya, like Killer Bee, is an , and if by some miracle he achieves Hermit Mode, Itachi is able to to kill Jiraiya since their willpower is almost certainly less than the Nine Tailed Fox. But lets say Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode, and that Itachi can't control Fukasaku to remove Jiriaya's head.

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Jiriaya's detection barrier is a banner for pro-Jiriaya arguers, but they frequently ignore that Jiraiya himself said that and without knowing he has to do what everyone has had to do. Either not look at Itachi at all, or look at Itachi's eyes ( .) Having inferior intellect and knowledge of genjutsu to Orochimaru will come in handy here. But if Ma and Pa, who aren't being controlled for plot reasons, break him out, realize that it still took time for to break weaker genjutsu, and even However, Jiriaya might as well instantly reflect all of Itachi's genjutsu back on to Itachi for all the good it will do him against the rest of Itachi's arsenal.

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There are some key things everybody ignores about this feat. The Raikage spent time for a shunshin that Karin and C noticed. Secondly, the Raikage was tipped off by . Neither of these are likely for Jiraiya who will probably be . As a tertiary point, it's highly unlikely that Jiraiya can even match A's ushrouded reflexes. And as a quaternary point, Itachi's Amaterasu burns than Sasuke's thus far, and was activated while running at full speed towards a wall five feet away. And then, his ultimate jutsu:

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It's a common mistake to assume Susano'o is a primarily defensive jutsu. It's not. The databook first and foremost hypes the that presumably surpasses his other two techniques. It caught Orochimaru in between words, right in front of him, without him even noticing, when other speed demons get off. Kakashi and Danzō had to use instant jutsu to deflect Susano'o attacks because they were so fast, and Sasuke only recently attained of Susano'o, which the author decided was a power-up to save for later. If Jiraiya is in the vicinity when it's activated, or if he thinks he break through it, then he's dead. It's also the best defensive jutsu in the manga, changing nature and shape to allegedly counter any jutsu.

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Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply , and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.
Digital Monster's work huh?
 

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OOPs soory just shat all over this thread
Jiraiya is very skilled in getting out of jutsus!!!!! ma,pa and Jiraiya can help each other get out of his genjutsus.
Jiraiya also has the ability to turn people into frogs. and he can use his hair to gaurd himself from amaterasu and then shed it off!!!!!!! jiraiya can also trap him using the barrier toad gourd prison where there is gastric acid which will complete kill him. and don`t forget jiraiya`s crazy rasengan. wnd he can also conteol people through their shadows!!!! and jiraiya stamina is fat more in comparison to itachi!!!!!!

Case closed :scorps:

THe guy who wrote that thread admiited he was wrong on page 4,
His exact words.>



SO no i won't shut up and even he admits now that he was wrong and that Itachi > jiraya.

everytime theres a jiraya vs itachi thread jiraya looses the argument due to fanboys, only this time the guy had the balls to admit it.
did ypu read my first post i never said that jiraiya would win, but that he wouldn`t just get his ass kicked. the way itachi would win is definately because of his taysuka sword. My point is that he is underrated, not that he can beat itachi, pein, or the first hokage or anything like that!!!!! :)
 
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THe guy who wrote that thread admiited he was wrong on page 4,
His exact words.>



SO no i won't shut up and even he admits now that he was wrong and that Itachi > jiraya.

everytime theres a jiraya vs itachi thread jiraya looses the argument due to fanboys, only this time the guy had the balls to admit it.
i said for now =p i will come back! :D
 

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Jiray doesn't havve the reactions even in SM to od this at all
And don`t forget he is very skilled in using shadow clones too. and he is very good with coming up with a new technique for many different situations!!!! :)

i said for now =p i will come back! :D
Your really cool by the way and I commend you!!!!!! :D
 
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THe guy who wrote that thread admiited he was wrong on page 4,
His exact words.>



SO no i won't shut up and even he admits now that he was wrong and that Itachi > jiraya.

everytime theres a jiraya vs itachi thread jiraya looses the argument due to fanboys, only this time the guy had the balls to admit it.
IMO im back son i aint giving up.
 
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