Jiraiya as Hokage instead of Tsundere

[ShiroT]

A thread to bash Tsunade, what a surprise. I love Jiraiya, but no. Tsunade is arguably the best hokage to date. End of story.

. . .. your trolling right?

 

[ShiroT]

No.
Tsunade is smarter.
Tsunade and him have equal experience,
Tsunade jutsu are more versitale, they can heal and destroy,
Tsunade has flawless hair,
Jirayah have been Tsunade's side joint for how long?
Tsunade is basically a walking sage mode, Jirayah need sage mode to get close to Tsunade's level of strength

medics have less fighting experience then regular ninjas

 

[senjusana]

Jiraiya turned down Hokage post and chose Tsunade thinking she would be best suited for the job.I think she did the job pretty reasonably.

btw,the forehead thing makes her look cute.

 

[larryjc]

The fact that the council wanted Jiraiya despite knowing of princess Tsunade tells it all.
Jiraiya would have been more interesting though.

 

[Exaar]

I think he would of made a better hokage if he was willing to put effort into it but he couldn't be bothered with all that so he handed it to tsunade instead.

Pretty sure Pein would think twice before attacking konoha with Jiraiya defending it.

 

[patskie14]

If jiraiya was hokage, everyone in konoha dies during pain invasion, unless he can make konoha sized toad intestine

Edit: But don't get me wrong, I prefer him being the hokage than tsunade

 

[Joshutsu]

I think he would of made a better hokage if he was willing to put effort into it but he couldn't be bothered with all that so he handed it to tsunade instead.

Pretty sure Pein would think twice before attacking konoha with Jiraiya defending it.

I disagree and agree, Jiraya would be a good hokage with effort but being a better hokage than Tsunade I doubt, probably the same and woulf forge the same bonds she did between villages.

And Pain would still deck Jiraya if he attacked konaha and tbh 1 Jiraya trying to fight paths scattered around the village without the help of danzo just like Tsunade except him being still alive would Naruto have taken that step to learn SM?

There's a reason pain didn't go to the head of the village for intel on where Naruto was in the start. He was avoiding unecessary fighting n went for easier targets to interrogate.

Jiraya and Tsunade would have the same struggles.


OT: You have it mixed up, she did not know Naruto came back when she stepped infront of pain. It was very dusty out there Naruto almost didn't even know he was in leaf till he saw the statues.

Also you realise j-man and tsunade was practically the same age right? Tsunade has quite alot of experience

 

[Exaar]

And Pain would still deck Jiraya if he attacked konaha and tbh 1 Jiraya trying to fight paths scattered around the village without the help of danzo just like Tsunade except him being still alive would Naruto have taken that step to learn SM?

Pain wouldn't deck jiraiya with back up.
Jiraiya stepped in to Pains lands and defeated 3 paths and killed another 1 while fighting all 6paths at the same time, All without any back up or info on pain.
Also an added feat is while fighting all 6 without info and stilling managing to kill one (he only had one arm through out that part of the fight)

Jiraiya ganging up with kakashi and crew against deva would result in both Deva and asura path being defeated. Or jiraiya teaming up against any path would spell their defeat.

Also in terms of the story, I'm asumming everything in the same, Like Jiraiya appointing naruto to learn Sm making him absent from the village and so forth.

Also you realise j-man and tsunade was practically the same age right? Tsunade has quite alot of experience

In terms of experience maybe but in terms of actual combat ability no.

Pain himself praised Jiraiya to the point of saying if he hadn't of kept his secret that he might not of defeated Jiraiya, that in it's self is a very bold statement of someone on pains level.
I cannot see him saying the same thing about tsunade. Let alone her dealing with 3 paths at once and winning, Nor fighting all 6 paths and managing to kill at least one with only one arm and with no info and being in enemy territory.

 

[KingHashirama]

. Sadly no.

Let me give you the reason why Orochimaru and Jiraiya were considered for Hokage.

1. Orochiamru was Hiruzen's fav student
2. Jiraiya was like Hiruzen
3. Tsuande had left the village

Again, as Jiraiya said, they wouldn't have found a better person to run the village than Tsunade. But it kills me when idiots think being Hokage is only what you do on screen.. no Hokage has bunch of other crap to deal with... Hell there could've been a 4th ninja war , while Naruto and etc were working on the Akatsuki.

Hokage - the role is beyond screen time. And is misunderstood by the fans who only stick to their "onscreen" bs.

@Exaar.. Pain would still **** up the village.

But just know Lee wouldn't be a ninja, and Sasuke wouldn't have been healed.. And same for Kakashi.

In terms of experience maybe but in terms of actual combat ability no.

Pain himself praised Jiraiya to the point of saying if he hadn't of kept his secret that he might not of defeated Jiraiya, that in it's self is a very bold statement of someone on pains level.
I cannot see him saying the same thing about tsunade. Let alone her dealing with 3 paths at once and winning, Nor fighting all 6 paths and managing to kill at least one with only one arm and with no info and being in enemy territory.

@Bold, you are gonna post stuff...about jiraiya.. and defend him.. while disagreeing about him admitting inferiority in combat to tsunadE?

And also, Just so you know Jiraiya fought pain on his home turf.. a place where Pain couldn't do Chibaku tensei/Shinra tensei on a large scale.. ok

And if Pain had done Ultimate SHinra tensei.. Jiraiya has 0 things in his arsenal to stop him from doing so.

 

[-ahhimane-]

What the F I just read?
Someone is decided to be Hokage on these points?

Jiraiya wasn't the type and he just refused to be Hokage.

 

[KingHashirama]

What the F I just read?
Someone is decided to be Hokage on these points?

Jiraiya wasn't the type and he just refused to be Hokage.

Not to mention Tsunade was more known/respected and had superior Combat abilities to Jiraiya (something that Jiraiya stated... that i am simply restating.)

Hell if Tsunade wanted.. she could've just made the village into nuclear bomb village.. train people to make poisons and so on.

 

[Joshutsu]

Pain wouldn't deck jiraiya with back up.
Jiraiya stepped in to Pains lands and defeated 3 paths and killed another 1 while fighting all 6paths at the same time, All without any back up or info on pain.
Also an added feat is while fighting all 6 without info and stilling managing to kill one (he only had one arm through out that part of the fight)

Jiraiya ganging up with kakashi and crew against deva would result in both Deva and asura path being defeated. Or jiraiya teaming up against any path would spell their defeat.

Also in terms of the story, I'm asumming everything in the same, Like Jiraiya appointing naruto to learn Sm making him absent from the village and so forth.




In terms of experience maybe but in terms of actual combat ability no.

Pain himself praised Jiraiya to the point of saying if he hadn't of kept his secret that he might not of defeated Jiraiya, that in it's self is a very bold statement of someone on pains level.
I cannot see him saying the same thing about tsunade. Let alone her dealing with 3 paths at once and winning, Nor fighting all 6 paths and managing to kill at least one with only one arm and with no info and being in enemy territory.

You can't put Jiraya under different circumstance to Tsunade. He would have gotten his shit pushed in with those paths spread out AND no intel because he would have never gone to the base and fought them previously. Kakashi and co got decked. Not much for backup.

Team gai wasn't in the village and danzo was in hiding.

Jiraya would have died along with the entire village. But maybe not because naruto would have never gone to learn sm. So pain probably would got him and left.

Also! Jiraya admitted Tsunade was unrivaled in combat ability so I would have to disagree.


That is irrelevant because he wouldn't know his secret if he attacked the village so you are saying without intel he would get decked. Which is the situation.

He did praise each sannin during his fight with jiraya stating they all have some special thing about them blah blah. But yh bottom line Jiraya would get demolished.

 

[AllHailKurama]

. . .. your trolling right?

No, I am not trolling. When one considers all the aspects of Hokage, not just power, then Tsunade is arguably the best hokage to date.

 

[Parrish]

Tsunade is a horrible character/Hokage, but idk if J-Man would be any better.

 

[Joshutsu]

Tsunade is a horrible character/Hokage, but idk if J-Man would be any better.

He wouldn't and that because theres no huge power gap between the sannin and they all would struggle against pain without intel.

Noone is talking about how Tsunade runs the village because theres no emphasis on that most ppl talking about fighting and none of them form a considerable gap between the other in fighting. And no edo tensei doesn't count lol

Honestly who up until war arc would have been some extremely strong hokage in this pool of living ninja. None except Naruto and sasuke at their current states.

 

[Exaar]

Kakashi and co got decked. Not much for backup.

Adding Sm Jiraiya into kakashi's group against Deva and asura would have gained them quite a comfortable win.

naruto would have never gone to learn sm. So pain probably would got him and left.

The situation is the same, Naruto is still learning Sm and team Gai is still out of the village and so on.

Also! Jiraya admitted Tsunade was unrivaled in combat ability so I would have to disagree.

Then she went on to getting beaten up by kabuto in CQC, When he outright admited not being good at CQC. This questions jiraiya's statement all together.
Another thing that questions his statement is the fact she retired from the shinobi life like what, 20 years go?. So it's impossible for him to have seen her fight or know her combat level.

That is irrelevant because he wouldn't know his secret if he attacked the village so you are saying without intel he would get decked. Which is the situation.

Not decked with Back up of the village and it's clans and elites such as kakashi.

As i've stated before, With zero info he defeated 3 paths at once, Then with only one arm he fended off 6 paths and managed to kill one. He was able to do all that with no info nor back up, Give him back up against a single path or two when he solo'ed 3 on his own, I doubt he will get pushed by any path apart from deva.