Jiraiya and Orochimaru vs. Ay, Bee, Shee, and Darui

[Ghost in the Shell]

Intel: Manga
Location: Obito vs. Bee, Naruto, Kakashi, and Gai
Starting Distance: 60 meters
Restrictions: Edo Tensei
Conditions: Orochimaru has his Zetsu body, Jiraiya starts in Sage Mode


Scenario 2: Third Raikage replaces Shee and Darui

Edit: Crap, sorry, I meant to restrict Bee to v2.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Am I missing anything in the OP or there are no restrictions for Bee?

Edit: I'll have to think about this a little more, but Kumogakure seems to have the advantage.

Edit 2: I'll go with the Cloud mid diff, just noticed there is a scenario 2, adding the Third is rape tbh.

 

[Black Wolf]

Raikage and Killer Bee could each potentially take this alone; putting them together and giving them Darui and Shee gives them a massive advantage they don't even need.

The main issue is that the Sannin have nothing to really hurt them barring Frog Song which they'll never have enough time to prep. Yomi Numa won't do anything to the walking piece of Raiton chakra, and Killer Bee also is proficient in Raiton; Doton's natural superior. Orochimaru's snake and Kusanagi attacks aren't hurting them either; we've seen Kusanagi fail against KN4 (thus Bee's V2 8 tails should fare comparably well), and we've seen Sasuke's Chidori Kusanagi literally bounce off the Raikage's shoulder when cloaked.

Meanwhile, nobody on the other team can react to Raikage or Killer Bee's cloaked speeds. Raikage could flank MS users and tickle Minato's nose with his fist and force FTG, and Killer Bee has shown to be able to keep up with cloaked Raikage in base, let alone in V2. The Raikage could very easily flank and behead Jiraiya, and then beat down Orochimaru until his chakra runs out from continuous Oral Rebirths just to stay alive.

The Sannin can bust out summons / Hydra mode, but then that will just prompt Killer Bee to go Bijuu Mode and nuke them off the planet with continuous Bijuudama spam.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Meh, Kumo wins easily in scenario 2.

I just thought that watching 2-3 of the faster and bulkier shinobi in the NV take on a bunch of toad and snake summons would be a fun fight to witness, especially with Oro and Jiraiya's abilities.

 

[Black Wolf]

Keep in mind Raikage could chop off Hachibi horns with Raiton strikes, so I doubt snakes / frogs will fare any better. It won't be as fast as a quick Bijuudama now that you've restricted Killer Bee, but its doable and the Raikage is more than fast enough to avoid anything they dish out and kill them.

Restricting Bijuu Mode made it less unbalanced, but IMO it's still unbalanced. I'd argue that Raikage or Killer Bee could win on their own. Together and with Darui's Ranton spam, the Sannin just can't do much here.

 

[KingHashirama]

If B aint got BM he aint a threat.

Ninjutsu prowess of sanin overwhelms

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Keep in mind Raikage could chop off Hachibi horns with Raiton strikes, so I doubt snakes / frogs will fare any better. It won't be as fast as a quick Bijuudama now that you've restricted Killer Bee, but its doable and the Raikage is more than fast enough to avoid anything they dish out and kill them.

Restricting Bijuu Mode made it less unbalanced, but IMO it's still unbalanced. I'd argue that Raikage or Killer Bee could win on their own. Together and with Darui's Ranton spam, the Sannin just can't do much here.

Well Shima was shown to be able to summon all three boss toads of Myobokuzan, while Orochimaru has summoned multiple boss snakes before. Then we also take Manda into account, who is slightly stronger than Bunta, and Oro's 8 headed Hydra. I agree that Kumo may win scenario 1, though. Ranton is still a ninjutsu that can be stalemated or overwhelemed by other ninjutsu of similar or superior power. Ma/Pa's katon and fuuton combo would most likely deal with that.

I disagree with Bee or Ay soloing this though, especially since Bee is restricted to v2. Ay winning against either is debatable, but together at the same time isn't happening. I'm of the opinion that v2 Bee loses to both SM Jiraiya and Orochimaru individually.

 

[Black Wolf]

Nothing they have can hurt the Kumo brothers, though. Kusanagi is Orochimaru's best offense, and it couldn't get through KN4. If it couldn't get through KN4, I don't see it going through V2 8-tails either. Likewise, we've seen the Raikage's shroud tank Chidori-covered Kusanagi to the shoulder with no damage. Odama Rasengan is the only thing that might hurt them, and even then, Bee's durability feats (such as tanking his own Bijuudama exploding in the Juubi's mouth) make me doubt that (V2 is just condensed Bijuu form).

Sannin lack the offense to damage them outside of the prep-heavy Frog Song and lack the speed to realistically keep up with either of them. Only realistic hope is Orochimaru's toxins, if he uses them before they beat him to death.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

You can't directly compare Bee's v2 form with his Bijuu form. I'm pretty sure that he gains a considerable durability boost once he fully transforms into the Hachibi. You can't just give his BM feats to his v2 form, especially when said forms differ in power and durability. The only thing v2 has over BM is speed, and rightfully so.

Jiraiya's Chou Oodama Rasengan would be enough to kill both, or at the very least incapacitate them to set up a finishing blow. V2 Yondaime is durable, but he isn't the Sandaime, who tanked FRS with minimal damage, not by a long shot. FRS >>>>> COR obviously, but Sandaime >>>>>>>>> Yondaime in durability.

 

[KingHashirama]

Ay would get rofl stomped if tries to take them on by himself.

 

[HNIC]

the probably with team #1 is their lck of power to finish the opposing team. So, while they're overall the better team and could win, they lack OP offenses. Give Orochimaru part 1 Edo and the fight be more interesting.

However, considering Jiraiya starting in SM, they could easily defeat either Bee or Ay. Sound genjutsu/song vibrations could stop Ay in his tracks. Base Bee, Darius and Cee can't handle Manda alone.

 

[Praydara]

I want to say Jiraiya and Orochimaru, but I think the Kumo team takes it high-diff scenario one, mid to low-diff scenario two.

 

[-Akuma-]

Bee nukes all I see is V2 restricted not BM.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kumo wins mid-high diff.

 

[Lariatoo]

With Bee restricted the Sannin duo can win, but Kumonstill wins the majority...