jiraiya and guy are underrated

ninjagawdd

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first of lord jiraiya fought against the rinnegan without any doujutsu or tailed beast or transmigrant chakra or any other bs he used his own powers and ninja skill set which almost even made him top the rinnegan. Now we go to guy we all know what he does to a JJ madara with rinnegan he take him on and whoops him with just taijitsu. So this is an appreciation thread for the real ninja who dont need special dojutsu or magical animals with unlimited power. s/o the ninjas that actually use ninja skills and can still bring out strength that matches the big dogs.
 

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Pain even admitted after killing Jiraiya that if Jiraiya had known there secret they would of lost.....jirayia was the strongest ninja in Naruto verse during that fight he lost because he had no knowledge of there powers
 

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I agree about Jiraiya, but Might Guy only has Eight Gate which allowed him to compete with a lot of contenders.

Gai is a taijutsu specialist..ontop of that hes mastered all of the inner gates..

When both are put together,ofcourse he can compete with alot of high ranked shinobi...with his peak being JJ Madara 1 Rinnegan
 

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Jiraiya is underrate, but Gai is extremely overrated. The only thing that lets him contend with the higher-level characters is the Eighth Gate, which is literally a suicide technique. He's strong, but not RSM Naruto level like some people want to put him.
 
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