Jiraiya > All Forms of Hiruzen!

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You heard it here, Jiraiya the Toad Sage, “He who is singularly pervy”, stands above all forms of Hiruzen, even the mythological Prime Hiruzen.

First up: The entrance. Envery good Shinobi must have a great entrance/introduction, and Jiraiya was king of the introductions:
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Boss Summons:

Jiraiya’s boss summon: Gamabunta
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Jiraiya summons Gamabunta, strongest of the boss summons of the Legendary Sannin. Together they work flawlessly as a team, incorporating tag team techniques such as:

Toad Oil Cannon:
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Hiruzen’s Boss summon: Monkey King Enma:
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What does Monkey King Enma do? He turns into a stick…

Gamabunta > Viagra Stick

Ninjutsu:

Hiruzen uses all 5 elements BUT:

Jiraiya has the ultimate defense. Even better than Gaara’s Sand, the Susano’o and the Gudodama (not really, obviously, lol):

Needle Jizo:
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Needle Jizo is not just a defensive technique, but it is also an offensive one:
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While Hiruzen would most likely avoid the offensive spray of Needle Jizo, he has no ability that can break through it.

Another one of the J-man’s techniques that easily subdues Hiruzen is the Toad Mouth Bind:
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This jutsu summons the stomach of Iwagama, which Itachi had to use Amaterasu to escape. Hiruzen is slow and does not have Amaterasu, he would be caught and destroyed.

Furthermore, Hiruzen has no answer for the Rasengan, nor its many variants.

He has many more techniques that would annihilate Hiruzen, and I would go in depth on them, but it’s memorial day, and I’m about to pregame for a party I’m going to at the beach with some friends, so ain’t nobody got time for that nonsense U_U

Jiraiya’s arsenal is just too strong. So strong in fact that both Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshigaki were forced to admit defeat and retreat so as to not be defeated by Jiraiya. This comes after Kisame openly questioned their combined abilities in comparison to Jiraiya:

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Later, Jiraiya went head to head against the Six Paths of Pain, defeating three of them before finally being defeated. Hiruzen wouldn’t have even gotten one.

Another thing that easily gives the J-man the advantage is Sage mode. Hiruzen has no answer for Sage mode, it puts him on a different level. Increased speed, strength, as well as chakra intensity. It’s just too much for the hype to handle.

That aside, Jiraiya has trained 2 children of prophecy: Naruto and Nagato, as well as He who is King of the Insta-solo, the Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze. By the time the series ends, he will have trained two of the six Hokages.

The biggest difference between the two though? Jiraiya doesn’t need to be revived from the dead to have his impact felt throughout the Shinobi world, even Juubito saw his power and admitted his defeat at the hands of Jiraiya:
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In conclusion:
Sage mode > Hiruzen
Rasengan and variants > Hiruzen
Gamabunta > Hiruzen
Frog Song > Hiruzen
Barrier: Toad Gourd Prison (in which he traps enemy in a toad surrounded by stomach acid) > Hiruzen
Toad Mouth Bind > Hiruzen
Toad Flatness: Shadow Manipulation (He turns himself into a shadow and controls enemy) > Hiruzen

And for the famed “Nuetralizer” technique, Jaraiya tanks it neg diff while simultaneously making out with Tsunade.

Jiraiya > Hiruzen high diff.

Hope you guys had are having a great memorial day so far!
 

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lawl they both got owned by Naruto's sexy jutsu tho
 

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Whats needle jizo gonna do for him if a gaint rock falls on him huh?
 

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The simple fact that Jiraiya was Hiruzen's student should solo the Thread.



PPain > Orochimaru > Jiraiya

#cya
So Naruto wouldn't be able to beat Kakashi and Jiraiya? Manga theme: New generations surpasses the old generations.

Bold is false. Sage mode > Orochimaru

lawl they both got owned by Naruto's sexy jutsu tho

Pretty much. Sexy jutsu OP as ****

Orochimaru is fighting Sasori and Pain, neg-diffed Sasori and is fighting on par with Pain

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Isn't that a video game trailer?

Whats needle jizo gonna do for him if a gaint rock falls on him huh?

Why wouldn't you just dodge a falling rock?
 
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You heard it here, Jiraiya the Toad Sage, “He who is singularly pervy”, stands above all forms of Hiruzen, even the mythological Prime Hiruzen.

First up: The entrance. Envery good Shinobi must have a great entrance/introduction, and Jiraiya was king of the introductions:
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Boss Summons:

Jiraiya’s boss summon: Gamabunta
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Jiraiya summons Gamabunta, strongest of the boss summons of the Legendary Sannin. Together they work flawlessly as a team, incorporating tag team techniques such as:

Toad Oil Cannon:
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Hiruzen’s Boss summon: Monkey King Enma:
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What does Monkey King Enma do? He turns into a stick…

Gamabunta > Viagra Stick

Ninjutsu:

Hiruzen uses all 5 elements BUT:

Jiraiya has the ultimate defense. Even better than Gaara’s Sand, the Susano’o and the Gudodama (not really, obviously, lol):

Needle Jizo:
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Needle Jizo is not just a defensive technique, but it is also an offensive one:
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While Hiruzen would most likely avoid the offensive spray of Needle Jizo, he has no ability that can break through it.

Another one of the J-man’s techniques that easily subdues Hiruzen is the Toad Mouth Bind:
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This jutsu summons the stomach of Iwagama, which Itachi had to use Amaterasu to escape. Hiruzen is slow and does not have Amaterasu, he would be caught and destroyed.

Furthermore, Hiruzen has no answer for the Rasengan, nor its many variants.

He has many more techniques that would annihilate Hiruzen, and I would go in depth on them, but it’s memorial day, and I’m about to pregame for a party I’m going to at the beach with some friends, so ain’t nobody got time for that nonsense U_U

Jiraiya’s arsenal is just too strong. So strong in fact that both Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshigaki were forced to admit defeat and retreat so as to not be defeated by Jiraiya. This comes after Kisame openly questioned their combined abilities in comparison to Jiraiya:

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Later, Jiraiya went head to head against the Six Paths of Pain, defeating three of them before finally being defeated. Hiruzen wouldn’t have even gotten one.

Another thing that easily gives the J-man the advantage is Sage mode. Hiruzen has no answer for Sage mode, it puts him on a different level. Increased speed, strength, as well as chakra intensity. It’s just too much for the hype to handle.

That aside, Jiraiya has trained 2 children of prophecy: Naruto and Nagato, as well as He who is King of the Insta-solo, the Fourth Hokage, Minato Namikaze. By the time the series ends, he will have trained two of the six Hokages.

The biggest difference between the two though? Jiraiya doesn’t need to be revived from the dead to have his impact felt throughout the Shinobi world, even Juubito saw his power and admitted his defeat at the hands of Jiraiya:
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In conclusion:
Sage mode > Hiruzen
Rasengan and variants > Hiruzen
Gamabunta > Hiruzen
Frog Song > Hiruzen
Barrier: Toad Gourd Prison (in which he traps enemy in a toad surrounded by stomach acid) > Hiruzen
Toad Mouth Bind > Hiruzen
Toad Flatness: Shadow Manipulation (He turns himself into a shadow and controls enemy) > Hiruzen

And for the famed “Nuetralizer” technique, Jaraiya tanks it neg diff while simultaneously making out with Tsunade.

Jiraiya > Hiruzen high diff.

Hope you guys had are having a great memorial day so far!

OP that is such a good story. I really can't pick "one part" that I liked the best. But if you were to hold a gun to my head, I would go with the part with the pictures. I just got off the phone with an armored truck company. They will be arriving in the morning to pick up my back up disk, which I just saved your story on to. There probably won't be much traffic, because I forwarded the police your story, and they agreed to escort the armored truck to its destination. At first the police chief didn't want to help, but then I guided his attention to the incredible pictures that you embedded along with your story. I mean, the story was good enough. But as soon as I saw the pictures that went along with it, I called my grandmother, who is blind and has Alzheimer’s disease to tell her. As far as her doctors in the nursing home are concerned, she is cured of all her ailments now that she heard your cool story. She is actually preparing to run the Boston marathon next year now. Thank you OP.
 

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Canon, Kishi made dis u_u

Lmao ok

OP that is such a good story. I really can't pick "one part" that I liked the best. But if you were to hold a gun to my head, I would go with the part with the pictures. I just got off the phone with an armored truck company. They will be arriving in the morning to pick up my back up disk, which I just saved your story on to. There probably won't be much traffic, because I forwarded the police your story, and they agreed to escort the armored truck to its destination. At first the police chief didn't want to help, but then I guided his attention to the incredible pictures that you embedded along with your story. I mean, the story was good enough. But as soon as I saw the pictures that went along with it, I called my grandmother, who is blind and has Alzheimer’s disease to tell her. As far as her doctors in the nursing home are concerned, she is cured of all her ailments now that she heard your cool story. She is actually preparing to run the Boston marathon next year now. Thank you OP.

Glad I could help man

I find it hard to belive Orochimaru "neg-diffed" Sasori.

especially without full use of his arms.
 
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By feats? J-Man wins rather with higher mid-diff at most.

By hype? The Hokage wins casually.
 

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nice thread

but obito is talking about the person who jiraiya was not his power
and that's what I like about the character, not the power

but no seems to care about it
 
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