Jinchurikii host question?

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Im gonna make this short and sweet i just have a simple question before i make a particular VS thread .. Was what Killer Bee said to Naruto about him taking control over his tailed beast was that they can't get caught in genjutsu or their beasts can't get summoned by anyone else other than the host ? For ex; Uchiha Madara ? Or both ? Someone clarify this for me :confused::confused:
 

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they can get caught in genjutsu, Bee explained a way to escape it however. It would make Tobi's plans far too easy if he can just summon the 8/9 tails right out of the hosts just by using the sharingan, so i'm going to see that that is not possible atm.
 

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they can get caught in genjutsu, Bee explained a way to escape it however. It would make Tobi's plans far too easy if he can just summon the 8/9 tails right out of the hosts just by using the sharingan, so i'm going to see that that is not possible atm.
Yes Like other ninja a jinchuriki too can get caught in genjutsu but a bijju can break the genjutsu by inserting it chakra t the host.

Im gonna make this short and sweet i just have a simple question before i make a particular VS thread .. Was what Killer Bee said to Naruto about him taking control over his tailed beast was that they can't get caught in genjutsu or their beasts can't get summoned by anyone else other than the host ? For ex; Uchiha Madara ? Or both ? Someone clarify this for me :confused::confused:

Inorder to summon like madara-tobi did they need unseal the beast from it's host and take control on it with sharingan. you can't simply summoned a beast wich is sealed a jinchuriki.
 
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they can get caught in genjutsu, Bee explained a way to escape it however. It would make Tobi's plans far too easy if he can just summon the 8/9 tails right out of the hosts just by using the sharingan, so i'm going to see that that is not possible atm.

Thanks alot man i appreciate the clarification , so basically Madara cant summon the 9 tails out of Naruto . and was that the only thing Bee taught naruto was how to get out of genjutsu ?
 

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Im gonna make this short and sweet i just have a simple question before i make a particular VS thread .. Was what Killer Bee said to Naruto about him taking control over his tailed beast was that they can't get caught in genjutsu or their beasts can't get summoned by anyone else other than the host ? For ex; Uchiha Madara ? Or both ? Someone clarify this for me :confused::confused:

Tobi(madara) was controlling mizukage by using genjutsu

No way they can summon when biju has a host
reason:
1. that's why tobi first had to bring out 9tail and then controlling him
2. Edo-Madara tried this but he couldn't summon 9tail coz he was in naruto body
 

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Hosts that are not in perfect partnership with their bijuu don't have the added benefit of being able to negate most genjutsu, it isn't about taking control of the chakra from the bijuu. Naruto when he had just KM would not get the added defense against genjutsu. Just wanted to put that out there before I explained something.

Genjutsu can be broken by a few ways:

Physical pain not caused by the genjutsu.
Disrupting your chakra.
Having someone else disrupt your chakra
(added caveat - People with doujutsu, with their ability to see chakra, are able to tell if other people are in genjutsu, and are able to see through genjutsu easier. Being able to tell that you are in a genjutsu does not equate to being able to break the genjutsu though)

Anyway so a perfect host can have their bijuu disrupt their chakra for them to break them out of genjutsu but first they must notice it.

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is an obvious exception to this rule as it takes place instantly, not letting anything happen in real time, so no chakra disruption will take place.

Also I would like to point out that this does not mean that they are always immune to genjutsu. Yagura (the 4th Mizukage, who was also a perfect jinchurikki, was under a genjutsu by either Madara or Tobi. )
 
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Tobi(madara) was controlling mizukage by using genjutsu

No way they can summon when biju has a host
reason:
1. that's why tobi first had to bring out 9tail and then controlling him
2. Edo-Madara tried this but he couldn't summon 9tail coz he was in naruto body

Oh okay i understand thanks man

Im making and EDO Madara vs EDO Hashirama + Bijuu Mode Naruto thread :) Tune in if your interested in this topic
 

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All i want to know is why cant Killer b Get A HM like Naruto KM
 

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Thanks alot man i appreciate the clarification , so basically Madara cant summon the 9 tails out of Naruto . and was that the only thing Bee taught naruto was how to get out of genjutsu ?

precisely. I mean if Madara/Tobi could way back when why didn't he just to save him the trouble of waiting for the day a host would have to give birth just to have the "opportunity" to snatch a bijuu.
 
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precisely. I mean if Madara/Tobi could way back when why didn't he just to save him the trouble of waiting for the day a host would have to give birth just to have the "opportunity" to snatch a bijuu.

Definitely true
 

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Since you kept it short I will too.
1st. Yea they can, but its much easier for them to break free.
2nd. You can't summon a tail beast that isn't free of its host.
 

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bee explains the genjutsu part here

and madara tried summoning the nine-tails here
 

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Lets make this simple, all bijuu hosts that have complete control over their bijuus can get caught in genjutsu but they have to complicated genjutsus like the tsukuyomi or izarami, not the simple easy genjutsus, those can't work on the bijuu host.
All uchihas or ninjas with sharigans can summon the bijuus, they just have to know the right jutsus to use against the bijuus.

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here's an another example of bee caught in a genjutsu
 
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