Jinchuriki can't be ranked

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Also if they're able to use while naruto is fighting, they can be preparing that sound genjutsu, i mean pretty much naruto still strong.

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I see, thriller? :I

yeah , you're right

Sound Genjutsu can really Solo anyone U_U

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

What? if we're taking away his uzumaki's treats then we're taking away them uchiha's treats= no sharingan, no chakra pool.

You're missing the point. Naruto was born with the Uzumaki abilities and thus they're his. That's obvious. I wasn't arguing with you, I was making fun of your lack of an argument.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

yeah , you're right

Sound Genjutsu can really Solo anyone U_U

Too bad it's not used as much....I really believe Sound Genjutsu can be even more OP than Uchiha Eye Genjutsu.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

You don't know jack natural energy mixes with naruto's chakra not the kyuubi's
the red chakra is spiritual energy the blue one is physical energy the green one is natural energy you're a moron who doesnt know what his talking about.

But Naruto uses the Kyubii's chakra to fight on a regular basis. And even if we aren't counting that (which by some points of view, I could understand why one wouldn't) the fact remains that they have a second brain in them who can take over when they're sucking and who can help them mid fight with advice (in the case of B) or by pushing them past their natural limit (in the case of Naruto and Part 1 Gaara).

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

But Naruto uses the Kyubii's chakra to fight on a regular basis. And even if we aren't counting that (which by some points of view, I could understand why one wouldn't) the fact remains that they have a second brain in them who can take over when they're sucking and who can help them mid fight with advice (in the case of B) or by pushing them past their natural limit (in the case of Naruto and Part 1 Gaara).

They can only take over by force or if the jinchuriki allows it.For instance the only times Naruto was taken over by Kurama is when he was angry or in near death situations.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

so thats not fine but using curse seal is fine......what kind of drug are you on????

The curse seal isn't a sentient being that can take over when Sasuke is dying. It can, however, serve as a conduit for Orochimaru's consciousness when it was sealed inside of Sasuke. So it's use in the Itachi battle would count in the same vein as a Jinchuriki. But if you want to talk about eyes, which the person I was responding to was, or about Orochimaru's jutsu, which the person above was, they are things that Sasuke possessed that were not guided by another being deep inside of him. They may have started as someone else's, but they were his at that point. You don't own a Biju, you work with one.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

They can only take over by force or if the jinchuriki allows it.For instance the only times Naruto was taken over by Kurama is when he was angry or in near death situations.

And without that, Naruto would be deader than dead at this point. The Biju have an interest in their host's continued survival, so they'll fight on the host's side (or in their behalf) if need be.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

Too bad it's not used as much....I really believe Sound Genjutsu can be even more OP than Uchiha Eye Genjutsu.

The strength of the Uchiha genjutsu is how difficult it is to break it. I think that nobody of a higher caliber using sound genjtsu shows that it could be easily broken at a higher level. Otherwise Orochimaru would be the biggest boss around.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Too bad it's not used as much....I really believe Sound Genjutsu can be even more OP than Uchiha Eye Genjutsu.

yeah , Anyone can defy Sharingan genjutsu by not looking at the uchiha's eyes but there is no way to counter Sound genjutsu

 

[iNotorious]

Sometimes I enjoy a thriller or two,but I really like comedy,horror,and the occasional action flick.A romantic drama is also something I'd watch from time to time.

Mystery + Thriller + Romantic = Too good.

yeah , you're right

Sound Genjutsu can really Solo anyone U_U

But he still under-rated U_U

You're missing the point. Naruto was born with the Uzumaki abilities and thus they're his. That's obvious. I wasn't arguing with you, I was making fun of your lack of an argument.

That makes no sense.

 

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But Naruto uses the Kyubii's chakra to fight on a regular basis. And even if we aren't counting that (which by some points of view, I could understand why one wouldn't) the fact remains that they have a second brain in them who can take over when they're sucking and who can help them mid fight with advice (in the case of B) or by pushing them past their natural limit (in the case of Naruto and Part 1 Gaara).

You're point being? according to orochimaru curse mark grants them more power after their natural limit is empty hence why yoroi was asborbing sasuke's chakra in part 1 so he could use the curse mark,
Lol you're very butthurt so you rag on naruto in a fight with two jins? lol are you forgetting gaara was transforming in that fight?

 

[sharingansennin]

Yeah but do you have to train them right? Didn't naruto train to control kurama?

naruto had someone to protect him the strongest bijuu in the naruverse whenever he's in danger he basically has backup whenever he needs it

 

[Sennin of Logic]

A biju is more like a permanent summons, and some characters rely heavily on summons(Orochimaru). A biju's power is also considered to be part of the jinchuriki's by all the ninjas in Naruto. Get over it.

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

Of course they can be ranked, power is power- juubi, dna, training, skill, smarts, are all aspects of power ( who cares if it's inherited or not, next you'll say bipoler individuals cannot be ranked. In a vs match it doesnot matter how you get it,
If you want to be technical about "being a solo king" then sure Naruto, and all individuals with exterior help should be excluded as the definition of "solo". However, that is only a exclusive ranking, to say jinjuriki can't be ranked in general is absurd, they should only be excluded from "solo rankings".

In general, when being ranked characters get abilities/items that they usually have on them in the story. Batman would be base human without his technology-but when he is ranked he is always given his utility belt etc...
Biju should be treated like summons- since in the Naruto world summons count as part of ones arsenal and usual abilities then so should cooperative biju. --

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

You're point being? according to orochimaru curse mark grants them more power after their natural limit is empty hence why yoroi was asborbing sasuke's chakra in part 1 so he could use the curse mark,
Lol you're very butthurt so you rag on naruto in a fight with two jins? lol are you forgetting gaara was transforming in that fight?

This isn't ragging on Naruto. I may not like Naruto that much, but I LOVE Gaara, and this applies the same to him as it does to Naruto. I'm just saying that a Jinchuriki never fights alone.

 

[Infinite Yaoi Emperor]

Of course they can be ranked, power is power- juubi, dna, training, skill, smarts, are all aspects of power ( who cares if it's inherited or not, next you'll say bipoler individuals cannot be ranked. In a vs match it doesnot matter how you get it,
If you want to be technical about "being a solo king" then sure Naruto, and all individuals with exterior help should be excluded as the definition of "solo". However, that is only a exclusive ranking, to say jinjuriki can't be ranked in general is absurd, they should only be excluded from "solo rankings".

In general, when being ranked characters get abilities/items that they usually have on them in the story. Batman would be base human without his technology-but when he is ranked he is always given his utility belt etc...
Biju should be treated like summons- since in the Naruto world summons count as part of ones arsenal and usual abilities then so should cooperative biju. --

Batman would get his belt, but he wouldn't get Robin. Robin and a Biju serve the same purpose; they're a separate being who helps the other person during battle. They have their own will, and thus are able to fight in ways and think in ways that the first person couldn't. Gaara without his Biju can be ranked, and if Naruto ever fights without his, he can as well.

 

[cptenn94]

Nope. Jin count. They are counted as "tools"(see akamaru).

Its not like being a jin is actually easy. You are shunned, and people stay away from you.

You only get the powers if you are strong enough to fight the beast, or nice enough to make it ally with you.

Sage mode gives many of the same benefits as a jin(large chakra pool senseing. Damage reduction stronger attacks). Yet it is not a 2v1.

Also jins have a handicap. they have less chakra pool. If the bijuu is taken they die. The bijuu usually tries to escape if possible.

There is NO way to make a accurate ranking list with picking and chooseing powers.

If jinchuriki are so op that they shouldnt be ranked, then tell me why akasuki beat all the jins(except for naruto and bee) without getting killed(they got killed after they already beat the jins)

Being a jin is not the same as being instantly op.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Seeing as how most Dojutsu users have their eyes at birth, hardwired into their DNA, and only need to awaken it, but Jinchuriki are an external force placed within someone, they are not equivalent.

Both were passed down by the Sage, gave his older son his eyes and his younger his body. What did the Sage do with his body? Used it as a container to hold the Juubi, he even passed down the jutsu to seal Jinchuuriki. The eyes can control Bijuus while the body can contain them. If you're going to take the body's power away then take the Sharingan's power as well. Doesn't matter if it's an ability they can awaken, fact is that it was pass down from the Sage who got if from the Juubi so either way that power is the Juubi's. Either he got it from being born from his mom who eat the fruit or when he sealed Juubi within himself.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Batman would get his belt, but he wouldn't get Robin. Robin and a Biju serve the same purpose; they're a separate being who helps the other person during battle. They have their own will, and thus are able to fight in ways and think in ways that the first person couldn't. Gaara without his Biju can be ranked, and if Naruto ever fights without his, he can as well.

So that means no ranking anyone with EMS+ or any power given or borrowed since their fighting style change with that power. Can't rate most of Sasuke since he had the CM which changed his style as he can use the wings to hover or as a shield as well as give him more chakra and power. He also had Orochimaru sealed in him for a while as while. Then he got Itachi's eyes which gave him more power and allow him to spam MS jutsu much more, hence change of style since it's heighten.

Can't rate Kakashi with his eye since it's not his. Can't rate Madara since not his eyes but Izuna plus increased stamina from Hashirama's cells and wood jutsu and healing ability. No rating Orochimaru with snake summons or any summons such as edo tensei. No rating Itachi with his Totsuka, yata, KA. No rating Kabumaru, only Kabuto that only had medical ninjutsu. No rating Shino who use many bugs. No rating Hiruzen with Enma. No rating Yamato since he was experimented on for his wood jutsu. It goes on for people like Kiba, Kakbuza, Kisame, ect.....

Oh also rate them all without chakra which means no sharingan and no Bijuus since it all came from an external source, the God tree's fruit that was passed down. The sage passed down his eyes, body, bijuus, chakra, jutsus; if you take out one then take them all out.

 

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Batman would get his belt, but he wouldn't get Robin. Robin and a Biju serve the same purpose; they're a separate being who helps the other person during battle. They have their own will, and thus are able to fight in ways and think in ways that the first person couldn't. Gaara without his Biju can be ranked, and if Naruto ever fights without his, he can as well.

@ you need an Award for the worst analogy ever. jinchurikis have one body, ONE. robin is not inside of batman's body yes there are two minds inside a jinchuriki but its one body. and if you can't deal with that fact that jinchurikis are going to be ranked you need to just leave the base and never come back.