[VS] jinbe vs cracker

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What suggests that he would lose mid dif??? doubt he would make it past the first biscuit.....it be hard diff if he does and than the real Cracker beats him....
 

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Water is natural weakness for Cracker's fruit so Jimbe might actually put up a good fight. Still doesn't mean he can beat the real one.
 
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Water is natural weakness for Cracker's fruit so Jimbe might actually put up a good fight. Still doesn't mean he can beat the real one.
Cracker admitted he hates pain, and the biscuits would be useless. Jinbe was a shichibukai, Level 6 prisoner and can fight for at least 5 days, the guys no slouch just because he doesn't have a yonkou commander title.

Pretsel sword GG where you been
You mean Rolling Pretzel or Honey Pretzel either way "Pretzel Sword" was just a cutting attack with haki and we've only seen it against one person, there's no way to gauge how it would do against others.
 
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Cracker admitted he hates pain, and the biscuits would be useless. Jinbe was a shichibukai, Level 6 prisoner and can fight for at least 5 days, the guys no slouch just because he doesn't have a yonkou commander title.



You mean Rolling Pretzel or Honey Pretzel either way "Pretzel Sword" was just a cutting attack with haki and we've only seen it against one person, there's no way to gauge how it would do against others.
???? what are you talking about?
 
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Just because jinbe is a fishmen doesn't mean he can just generate water out of nothing. Water played a huuge role in softening the biscuit so luffy could eat them. I don't want to discredit his abilities. Jinbe is a truly strong individual with great stamina. But too say he would win against cracker medium diff isn't true. I feel much like luffy was, Jinbe would struggle solo against a biscuit army
 

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Just because jinbe is a fishmen doesn't mean he can just generate water out of nothing.
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This will be at the least a high difficulty fight, Jimbei stands a chance at winning imo, if Cracker engages him directly once he realizes his biscuit clones are failing for the most part, he puts himself at risk. Nothing I have seen from Cracker indicates he is some tank, so he will take heavy damage from Jimbei once Jimbei gets past the biscuits.
 
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It took a different G4 form to beat Cracker, Jinbe doesn't have offensive power at that level.

Cracker wins.
In one on panel hit yea.

Cracker took a gear 4th attack for the first time and he looks to be KO'd, doesn't say much. And a different G4 form means nothing, Luffy was just bloated up at the moment and used G4, thus like he always does created a new name/ attack . It's just a situational G4 attack, not something he's worked on.
 

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Just because jinbe is a fishmen doesn't mean he can just generate water out of nothing. Water played a huuge role in softening the biscuit so luffy could eat them. I don't want to discredit his abilities. Jinbe is a truly strong individual with great stamina. But too say he would win against cracker medium diff isn't true. I feel much like luffy was, Jinbe would struggle solo against a biscuit army
True being a fishman doesn't mean you can make water out of nothing but knowing Fishman Karate does.
 

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It took a different G4 form to beat Cracker, Jinbe doesn't have offensive power at that level.

Cracker wins.
Really? Did you see the panel just above you before you posted?
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Wadatsumi makes Cracker's biscuit form look tiny and the ripples from that attack go about 1/3 of the way up his body. I agree that's probably not the same impact as a G4 punch but enough hits big like that will add up on anybody.
 

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Did you read this weeks chapter?

Water makes them so soft they can be eaten, which means they can be broken easily, which means Jinbe throwing water at them will render them mushy and ineffective
yes edible not useless....you think a yonko's commander would be this week?? A splash of water and gg....cracker also beat urouge.....IMO he beats jinbe mid dif
 
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Really? Did you see the panel just above you before you posted?
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Wadatsumi makes Cracker's biscuit form look tiny and the ripples from that attack go about 1/3 of the way up his body. I agree that's probably not the same impact as a G4 punch but enough hits big like that will add up on anybody.
What? This is a terrible ass argument, since when did the size of a technique matter? I know what your trying to Say but the size of a technique doesn't mean its hurting any and everybody.

You can't seriously compare Jinbe beating up Wadatsumi to a Yonko Top 3 commander.

People wanna talk about Cracker not being durable but the one thing that brought him down was a G4 attack.

There's nothing suggesting he can go down to something less than that or vice versa.
 

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In one on panel hit yea.

Cracker took a gear 4th attack for the first time and he looks to be KO'd, doesn't say much. And a different G4 form means nothing, Luffy was just bloated up at the moment and used G4, thus like he always does created a new name/ attack . It's just a situational G4 attack, not something he's worked on.
And how does that prove Jinbe is beating Cracker? I already know what kind of technique Tank man is but that changes nothing.

As far as I'm concerned Jinbe doesn't have G4 level offensive power and why should he?
 

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yes edible not useless....you think a yonko's commander would be this week?? A splash of water and gg....cracker also beat urouge.....IMO he beats jinbe mid dif
If they became so soft they could be eaten what resistance do you think they'd put up to an actual attack? What are you talking about this weak? Jinbe's a strong character but it seems like people forgot that for some reason. Who said anything about a splash either? Jinbe can make a constant amount of water just like Cracker can biscuits so Cracker would need to rely on his own body and strength to win the fight. Did it say HE beat Urogue or just that Urogue was beaten? I don't recall it ever saying who was involved in that incident it was obviously more than just Cracker though seeing as Urouge took one sweet commander out so saying Cracker beat urouge isn't entirely accurate as he fought another commander and we don't know how much time there was between that fight and his group being beat, Cracker could have came in and cleaned up house for all we know.

What? This is a terrible ass argument, since when did the size of a technique matter? I know what your trying to Say but the size of a technique doesn't mean its hurting any and everybody.

You can't seriously compare Jinbe beating up Wadatsumi to a Yonko Top 3 commander.

People wanna talk about Cracker not being durable but the one thing that brought him down was a G4 attack.

There's nothing suggesting he can go down to something less than that or vice versa.
Size as always been relevant to power what are you talking about? If I throw a 4 inch water ball at you it's obviously gonna have less impact than a 4 foot one. Size of attacks correlates to the power level of an attack, weak attacks don't just happen to cover large areas by chance.

I'm not I'm comparing that attack to your statement that Jinbe doesn't have offensive power strong enough to break a biscuit. That attack(which probably isn't even his strongest because as you said, it's Wadatsumi) is definitely strong enough. I'm not sure why you think it's not, you see the effort in that shot right?

Really? I know Luffy was in G4 but are we gonna call him launching someone out of his stomach into his own haki biscuits a "G4 attack"? If you think Luffy's cannonball this chap was stronger than that punch from Jinbe idk what else to say.

I don't understand what this is countering? What do you mean there's nothing suggesting he can go down to something less? Who is "he"? Cracker or Jinbe or Luffy? Something less than what?
 

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If they became so soft they could be eaten what resistance do you think they'd put up to an actual attack? What are you talking about this weak? Jinbe's a strong character but it seems like people forgot that for some reason. Who said anything about a splash either? Jinbe can make a constant amount of water just like Cracker can biscuits so Cracker would need to rely on his own body and strength to win the fight. Did it say HE beat Urogue or just that Urogue was beaten? I don't recall it ever saying who was involved in that incident it was obviously more than just Cracker though seeing as Urouge took one sweet commander out so saying Cracker beat urouge isn't entirely accurate as he fought another commander and we don't know how much time there was between that fight and his group being beat, Cracker could have came in and cleaned up house for all we know.



Size as always been relevant to power what are you talking about? If I throw a 4 inch water ball at you it's obviously gonna have less impact than a 4 foot one. Size of attacks correlates to the power level of an attack, weak attacks don't just happen to cover large areas by chance.

I'm not I'm comparing that attack to your statement that Jinbe doesn't have offensive power strong enough to break a biscuit. That attack(which probably isn't even his strongest because as you said, it's Wadatsumi) is definitely strong enough. I'm not sure why you think it's not, you see the effort in that shot right?

Really? I know Luffy was in G4 but are we gonna call him launching someone out of his stomach into his own haki biscuits a "G4 attack"? If you think Luffy's cannonball this chap was stronger than that punch from Jinbe idk what else to say.

I don't understand what this is countering? What do you mean there's nothing suggesting he can go down to something less? Who is "he"? Cracker or Jinbe or Luffy? Something less than what?
Not sure if trolling or just acting flat out ignorant, size has never been relevant in ONE PIECE I don't know why you bringing up worldy stuff for in a manga where a 5'7 19 year old can beat a giant with a single punch.

And wtf, that cannon ball attack defeated a Top 3 Yonko commander, if your comparing the attack that Jinbe used to defeat ****ing Wadatsumi to a G4 attack then I have no words. You must be smoking something strong as hell.

I'm talking about G4.
 
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Not sure if trolling or just acting flat out ignorant, size has never been relevant in ONE PIECE I don't know why you bringing up worldy stuff for in a manga where a 5'7 19 year old can beat a giant with a single punch.

And wtf, that cannon ball attack defeated a Top 3 Yonko commander, if your comparing the attack that Jinbe used to defeat ****ing Wadatsumi to a G4 attack then I have no words. You must be smoking something strong as hell.

I'm talking about G4.
Show one example of a large area attack that isn't also powerful.
 
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