jin madara vs sm double rinningan madara (see the scenarios first)

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condition: sm double rinningan madara has ps fused with sm (so it is much stronger)all his rinningan tech even the ones used by nagato ,all hashirama’s mouktun including the buddaha

scenario 1 : jin madara with 1 rinningan before absorbing the tree ,he can use only 1 limbo ,and all his gudomas are restricted(he has only the black stick) ,he cant use the tree,jiubi or jiubi domas

scenario 2 :jin madara with 1 rinningan before absorbing the tree but he has all gudomas and 1 limbo but the other abilities are restricted as s1

scenario 3: jin madara with 1 rinningan after absorbing the tree but he can be killed if his head is cut off and the other madara knows about that ,he has all gudomas and 1 limbo but all other abilities are restricted

scenario 4 : jin madara with 1 rinningan after absorbing the tree (can be killed if his head is cut off),he has all gudomas ,1 limbo all his other abilities except for jiubi domas ,mouktun or any other rinningan tech

which strongest jin madara can sm double rinningan madara beat?
 

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A limbo and a jin madara alone is too much for double rinnegan sm madara. Theres no way one madara can keep up with 2, albeit much stronger ones. Double rinnegan sm madara doesnt win any scenarios. For example, look at when obito became a jin. His power skyrocketed. The same happened with madara. I dont think you realize how much you're underestimating jin madara. The fact that you didnt restrict limbo makes it at max a mid diff win for jin madara in scenario 1. A sm enhanced ps doesnt change anything. Jin madara can fly, while the other can not. Thats a huge disadvantage by itself
 

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A limbo and a jin madara alone is too much for double rinnegan sm madara. Theres no way one madara can keep up with 2, albeit much stronger ones. Double rinnegan sm madara doesnt win any scenarios. For example, look at when obito became a jin. His power skyrocketed. The same happened with madara. I dont think you realize how much you're underestimating jin madara. The fact that you didnt restrict limbo makes it at max a mid diff win for jin madara in scenario 1. A sm enhanced ps doesnt change anything. Jin madara can fly, while the other can not. Thats a huge disadvantage by itself
ok he has one limbo but the other has 4 limbo and can see it,he can use sm ps ,limbo cant go through it ,according to restrictions ,jin madara has to get close to attack ,plus sm madara ps can almost fly too
jin madara with the restrictions cant destroy ps fused with sm ,can he?
i think sm double rinningan madara(all rinningan techs,all mouktun techs including buddaha,ps fused with sm)can win all scenario
 

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ok he has one limbo but the other has 4 limbo and can see it,he can use sm ps ,limbo cant go through it ,according to restrictions ,jin madara has to get close to attack ,plus sm madara ps can almost fly too
jin madara with the restrictions cant destroy ps fused with sm ,can he?
i think sm double rinningan madara(all rinningan techs,all mouktun techs including buddaha,ps fused with sm)can win all scenario
Okay, I see your point. He can MAYBE PROBABLY win scenario one. But your forgetting that jin madara can also use all rinnegan techniques, and wood style techniques. TSB destroys sm ps and limbos. Oh and please tell me how ps can quote "almost" fly. And if your talking those arms on its back that look like wings, they havent been shown to be capable of that feat. SM double rinnegan madara doesnt get past scenario 2.
 

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Okay, I see your point. He can MAYBE PROBABLY win scenario one. But your forgetting that jin madara can also use all rinnegan techniques, and wood style techniques. TSB destroys sm ps and limbos. Oh and please tell me how ps can quote "almost" fly. And if your talking those arms on its back that look like wings, they havent been shown to be capable of that feat. SM double rinnegan madara doesnt get past scenario 2.
you didnt read the restrictions,jin madara in all scenarios cant use mouktun or any rinningan tech except for limbo ,also jiubi domas are restricted too

ps back arms is closed wings,sasuke wings had arms in the last chapter ,whatever ps shape can be controlled to be the nine tails for example so why not reforming it to be with wings?

your opinion after seeing the restrictions?
 

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opinions,please
who wins in every scenario(read the restrictions first)?
Double rinnegan sm madara wins all but scenario 4, though I dont that much of a difference in the scenarios. Scenario 4 would end in a stalement, but doesn't because of stamina. And jin madara has more due to having the juubi inside of him
 

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sory it was made twice ,one with poll and another without
Okay.
scenario 1 : jin madara with 1 rinningan before absorbing the tree ,he can use only 1 limbo ,and all his gudomas are restricted(he has only the black stick) ,he cant use the tree,jiubi or jiubi domas

scenario 2 :jin madara with 1 rinningan before absorbing the tree but he has all gudomas and 1 limbo but the other abilities are restricted as s1

scenario 3: jin madara with 1 rinningan after absorbing the tree but he can be killed if his head is cut off and the other madara knows about that ,he has all gudomas and 1 limbo but all other abilities are restricted

scenario 4 : jin madara with 1 rinningan after absorbing the tree (can be killed if his head is cut off),he has all gudomas ,1 limbo all his other abilities except for jiubi domas ,mouktun or any other rinningan tech
Jiin Madara loses S1, S2 and S3 can go either way, but I'm leaning towards Jin Madara for those two, S4 Goes to Jin Madara
 

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Okay.


Jiin Madara loses S1, S2 and S3 can go either way, but I'm leaning towards Jin Madara for those two, S4 Goes to Jin Madara
how will he destroy ps fused with sm or the buddaha while his fire power(jiubi domas) are restricted?

also chou shinra tensi made by sm madara can be so destructive too,it can make an opening
 
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how will he destroy ps fused with sm or the buddaha while his fire power(jiubi domas) are restricted?

also chou shinra tensi made by sm madara can be so destructive too,it can make an opening
In S2 and S3 you gave Jin Madara his GD's, that's why. GD is insanely powerful. And Jin Madara can dish out just as much as SM Madara.
Madara has never shown the capabilities to use any of the Six Paths Besides Petra and CT, but he didn't use CT until he became a Jin. So you can't think that he has CST, without proof
 

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In S2 and S3 you gave Jin Madara his GD's, that's why. GD is insanely powerful. And Jin Madara can dish out just as much as SM Madara.
Madara has never shown the capabilities to use any of the Six Paths Besides Petra and CT, but he didn't use CT until he became a Jin. So you can't think that he has CST, without proof
i dont think gudomas can destroy ps fused with sm or the buddaha

nagato wasnt healthy or the orignal owner and he could do it so madara who is the original owner , healthy and has sm can make even much stronger one
it is rediclous if you think that madara needs to be jiubi jin to use ct while nagato did
 

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Nagato has a better body then Madara, as proven when he's the only one that can survive using the Gedo Art of Rinne Rebirth. (But I m willing to concede to that point)
GT is Hax.
 
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Nagato has a better body then Madara, as proven when he's the only one that can survive using the Gedo Art of Rinne Rebirth. (But I m willing to concede to that point)
GT is Hax.
do you think unhealthy nagato’s body who lools like 80 years old is stronger than young healthy madara with hashirama cells and sm lol
nagato died after using renni tensi too
or you think that rinningan has techs can be used only by non uchiha while the uchiha who has sinju dna and sm cant?
 

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Nagato was born with the strong life force and vitality of the Uzumaki. And Nagato only died using the Gedo Art because he didn't have enough Chakra left, it was stated that he could have lived if he had more Chakra then he did at the time.
I'm only stating the fact that it seems only those born with Senju blood can survive using the Jutsu.
Madara is easily the better Rinnegan user.
 
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