[Discussion] Jesus killing a little boy who bumped into him

[Made in Heaven]

There is a creator of the universe yes, but is he the god of the bible? We can't say for sure.

you believe in a god?!

 

[Desanto]

I'm not disrespecting them! I love god, I love Jesus, I love Moses. As a Muslim, they are all very important to me. I'm just pointing out how the bible paints them in such disgusting colours

Ah, I apologize then. Im the one who misunderstood you !

 

[EnDash]

I've enough proof to know that God is REAL

and i have enough proof to know that god is a brutal sadistic insane being that does nothing but harm to anything it created. abeing so evil and wrong that it's better to burn in hell then to give up to his atrocities. god should be judged and punished for all the sins he commited.

 

[Wolfus]

say what you want about them, the crusades wars were sanctioned by curches.

my belief is not that the bible or god are wrong/lie. it's every current interpertation of it that is wrong. christianity is nothing but a wrong interpertation of it's own bible. interpertations with the same reasons behind them as you said, "money/gold, terryitory(land) and for political reasons". i have yet to encounter a religion that doesn't want any money, any land or any power.



1. if you want to spread your religion as far as you can, you would go on a boat around the world. but truthfuly people were just curious.

2. cool, i wonder if i can be lucky the rest of my life. with the luck god gave me it will probably happen. and it's interesting that god lets sinners go into heaven because their sins are small. i wonder how far i can push god, can i piss on a bible and still go to heaven?

I'm not " saying anything I want". If you truly study the crusades and the maby wars in europe, you'll kown that. The mechant crusade is a fact. Another fact, in the famous religious wars: the guy supports a religion in his country, but he helps the "rival religion" in another country. Why? Because of political choices.

Religion was most of the times used as a pretext to hide their objectives and convince people easily. That doesnt mean religion was the one to blame. The same situation happens in brazil,, but with soccer instead. So, we blame soccer, not the brazilians?

In the end of the day, the fault is on us, humans, greedy, flawed, unable to live with differences. You said that you have yet to find a religion that isnt after money. I'm pretty sure you can find one, at least in theory, if you search a lot. But let me say this: What man is not after money and power, huh? What human? You can barely find them. The problem is on us, not on religious, or on games, or on the people from the past, or on another person. It's on us, and it's about time we accepted and admitted this instead of blaiming everything else

 

[Santa C]

and i have enough proof to know that god is a brutal sadistic insane being that does nothing but harm to anything it created. abeing so evil and wrong that it's better to burn in hell then to give up to his atrocities. god should be judged and punished for all the sins he commited.

Uh Oh you just turnt that kid up

 

[Aim64C]

Apparently our man Moses here was a perverted murder

"They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"

The Old Testament was full of interesting bits.

Stuff like this was, in its own way, wisdom.

There is no such thing as an innocent kid. The sons of the fathers you kill in battle will return to wage war against your sons. Kill them, and do not take any women who would have strong loyalties with the men of their societies.

You didn't assimilate cultures in that era by becoming friends. You killed them and took their women.

Further - in that era, marriage was not viewed as it is, today. Marriage was something more of a contractual agreement between a man and a woman - spare for the 'head' or 'political' relationship - the woman who held that spot was either a political or idealistic marriage in terms of having feelings.

Human societies, during times of survival, often revert to this type of 'harem' system. Women would rather share a man with political, monetary, and leadership connections than be stuck with some no-name who ends up as fodder of some variety.

Let's say we were dealing with a marginally post-apocalyptic environment. Times are survivable - but pretty tough. While there are plenty of guys running around, many of them are not all that bright (having been union workers) and are not all that great at doing much more than whatever narrow field of employment they were in prior to the collapse. Worse - a lot of the men your age were some of the first to die off, being ill-prepared for crisis and having little practical survival knowledge.

There is a guy - perhaps seen as something of a visionary - who has rallied together some people, and always endeavors to take care of those around him. He drives off the thieves and thugs, and genuinely is working toward restoring the future we dreamed of having in this era. Perhaps you were in one of the first groups of people he linked up with. His fiancee (or... wife - perhaps a non-traditional marriage under the circumstances) is one of your close friends.

Would you entertain the idea of being a mother to a child of that man?

It's difficult to truly place yourself in that situation - but it is an interesting scenario to play out in one's mind. There are countless stories of couples where one develops a terminal illness and he/she tells the other to "find another to love" because "you have too much love to keep to yourself."

Is that really removed from the idea that two (or more) women can be happy in a relationship where they are both taken care of by one man?

We dismiss many things in our society outright. Polygamy is taboo and backwards - a violation of women's rights...

The idea that it could be seen as a mutually beneficial situation for everyone doesn't get brought up.

When the economics and dynamics of human society begin to empower individuals to a greater degree - women seek to dominate the attention of a man. Polygamy becomes impractical unless the world is just that full of completely undesirable douches or fools.

Which is why men naturally seek to dominate and oppress each other. Though most of us can't identify the instinct when it is kicking us in the gut - and even fewer can trace back the origins of the instinct (which have reaching consequences and evocations beyond simplistic mating instincts).

If we can make all of the other men retarded and nonviable - we make ourselves more desirable (because making ourselves more desirable than everyone else is too much work).

Women do not necessarily seek to expand their territory, like men do - but can be even more violent in their defense of it. If a guy loses 'dominance' of a girl - it's easier for him to carry over his aspirations onto other girl(s). If a girl loses dominance over a guy - that's stable motherhood out the window.

I've rarely seen women get into fights over the type of stuff that men will get into. However - an ex-wife or suspected mistress setting foot into 'mom's' territory will likely end up missing patches of skin, hair, and may even come away with scratched-out eyes.

Guys will beat the shit out of each other and tell the loser to skedaddle. Women will literally shred each other into mush. It's always interesting to watch the difference between two guys who dated the same girl and two girls who dated the same guy.

The bible is an interesting collection of historical accounts (though many of the scriptures, themselves, are attempts of scholars of the time to piece together events they did not personally witness). But sometimes one has to reasonably question the assertion that it is somehow protected by a divine integrity.

 

[Fair Warning]

you believe in a god?!

Yes, do you really think something came from nothing?

 

[riley freeman]

Hey kid you're a bit too hardcore about this HOHOHOHO! You shouldn't look down on someone because they share a different view. Your suppose to be a christian? If you are just accept that guy's view and move on. It's about accepting what other's believe not forcing what you believe down their throats.

No its my job as a christain to preach the gospel and defend God . I'm not looking down at anyone, I just which he have seen what I have

 

[Made in Heaven]

and i have enough proof to know that god is a brutal sadistic insane being that does nothing but harm to anything it created. abeing so evil and wrong that it's better to burn in hell then to give up to his atrocities. god should be judged and punished for all the sins he commited.

wow, I guess I shouldn't be surprised one would have this view of god after reading the bible Lol

 

[Desanto]

There is a creator of the universe yes, but is he the god of the bible? We can't say for sure.

I believe it is the same God, the god who created an afterlife for us. The bible just painted him wrong though, ya know.

 

[riley freeman]

funny part is , you Christians degrade Jesus, god, Solomon, Moses, and many more in the bible

Give me and example of how we degrade Jesus please

 

[EnDash]

I'm not " saying anything I want". If you truly study the crusades and the maby wars in europe, you'll kown that. The mechant crusade is a fact. Another fact, in the famous religious wars: the guy supports a religion in his country, but he helps the "rival religion" in another country. Why? Because of political choices.

Religion was most of the times used as a pretext to hide their objectives and convince people easily. That doesnt mean religion was the one to blame. The same situation happens in brazil,, but with soccer instead. So, we blame soccer, not the brazilians?

In the end of the day, the fault is on us, humans, greedy, flawed, unable to live with differences. You said that you have yet to find a religion that isnt after money. I'm pretty sure you can find one, at least in theory, if you search a lot. But let me say this: What man is not after money and power, huh? What human? You can barely find them. The problem is on us, not on religious, or on games, or on the people from the past, or on another person. It's on us, and it's about time we accepted and admitted this instead of blaiming everything else

there is a source to all those human flaws. our genius creator, god.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yes, do you really think something came from nothing?

of course I do, I think it's very logical to think so. But does that mean you have a religion?

 

[riley freeman]

There is a creator of the universe yes, but is he the god of the bible? We can't say for sure.

I'm pretty sure its the same person

 

[Desanto]

and i have enough proof to know that god is a brutal sadistic insane being that does nothing but harm to anything it created. abeing so evil and wrong that it's better to burn in hell then to give up to his atrocities. god should be judged and punished for all the sins he commited.

I mean no disrespect but If your point is to disprove God, then you're going about it the wrong way. What I'm reading from you is that you don't believe in God YET you believe God is Evil... How can a God be evil if he does not exist in your world? Choose your words carefully, you might end up confusing the reader.

 

[riley freeman]

of course not. But the man altered bible indeed does so

What?? the Quran and the bible are both talking about the same people.

 

[Fair Warning]

I'm pretty sure its the same person

Thats your opinion. For all we know, There are three gods in the universe clashing over control of us.

 

[riley freeman]

and i have enough proof to know that god is a brutal sadistic insane being that does nothing but harm to anything it created. abeing so evil and wrong that it's better to burn in hell then to give up to his atrocities. god should be judged and punished for all the sins he commited.

So you believe in God? and who do you think can judge God?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Give me and example of how we degrade Jesus please

you call him the son of god, and this is insulting to not only him, but god as well. God is one, he begets not nor is he begotten, and yet you say Jesus is his son, if so, what does that make Mary? Gods wife? Did god have *** with a women? Such blasphemy... The idea of god degrading himself to the level of a human is insulting to god, and the fact that GOD died on the cross [as jesus]?! How does god die?!

 

[Fair Warning]

Wait so if Jesus is god, he impregnated himself into Mary?