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You'd think that Jack is stronger because they brought him up like someone stronger than Doffy but judging by feats it's not easy to picture Doffy losing (and no I don't need a photo of Luffy's King Kong punch)
[VS] Jack vs Doffy
- Thread starter Uzumaki Macho
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the nine tails
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That's because no one knew about him, but the moment you receive a bounty, it means that you're already known and acknowledged by the government with your actions followed
You could have at least added that his bounty was frozen because he was a shichibukai for long lol. Fact remains however that Jack has the double of the bounty of the guy who defeated him. It can't be a coincidence, especially since it was said it's harder to increase in bounty starting 300millions and that your feats must really be incredible to accomplish it. Just look at Luffy. He had 400millions berry pretimeskip, had 2years of training and reached his limits against Doffy, yet it was only raised up to 500millions(100millions more), yet Jack's bounty is 500millions ahead(the first billions berry bounty in the manga). Kid who has the same mindset was only 15millions ahead of pretimeskip Luffy. His nature alone can't be the only reason behind such a high bounty. Besides to be able to cause devastation you need strength. That's why Kid despite having the same mindset as him didn't even cross the 500millions berry yet(more than half below) simply because unlike Kid, Jack is a danger to even powerful new world islands
You also have to think of it from a story perspective:
- Oda foreshadowed this guy since Punk Hazard
- Sent to capture Raizou in one of the most powerful independant islands
- Dedicated multi-flashback chapters to hype this guy
- Fought one of the most powerful new world islands(Zou) that Luffy who rarely acknowledge someone said was "strong" the moment they met, who are friends to powerful people(Shanks, Marco, etc), are mentioned to be the ones the world is waiting for, are guarding one of the road poneglyphs for 5 days and took no damage
- Left to attack a convoy with 2admirals,1high level VA and their fleet, and still managed to destroy 2 and coming out relatively ok to the point the government had to cover-up by lying that he is dead
- Come back to Zou and decides to kill an island-sized elephant and currently presented as the Zou(Post-Dressrosa arc) antagonist
Oda developed this guy way too much that if he ends up weaker than Doffy, it would not make sense
Except Jinbei on land is not as strong as Inuarashi and Nekomamushi and Ace is not even remotely close to Jack's power so I dont understand your comparison.
And Ace was going all out against Jinbei where else Jack was stalemating both of them using just his Sickle.
And not to mention Jack went and fought Fujitora and Sengoku the next day and only suffered minor injuries and still managed to destroy 2 battleships.
the nine tails
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you see the problem is that we still don't know how strong he is or how strong are the minks
all of what you said is just pure hype that's all, law fought Doffy and Fojitora and he didn't die does that makes him stronger than doffy? heck luffy fought the three admirals at the same time but he didn't die do you see the point? I'm not saying he's weak but we still don't know anything about him so it would be stupid to compare him with Doffy he might be waaay stronger and he might not be