[VS] J-Man vs Kakashi

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Grassy Terrain with a small house to hide in, no water source.
Kamui is restricted to block attacks and cannot kill J-Man, but can kill his summons. (3 Kamui)
J-Man starts in base.

Who would win?
 

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So he cant use kamui on jman and he can only use it 3 times?.. Jman overwhelms him with boss summons and his wide arsenal of jutsu.

Jman takes this mid-high diff.
 

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3 Boss summons and 3 Kamuis.
 

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Kakashi wouldn't need kamui for the boss summonings. He could use that would cut through them like butter or if he really gets in a bind could rely on to get the job done.

The problem comes in when Jiraiya uses the time it takes Kakashi to deal with the summonings to enter SM. He can compete with Jiraiya in Sage Mode, but something he(nor the vast majority of the naruto-verse) has no counter for is Gama Rinsho.

It's unlikely Kakashi can best Jiraiya with raikiri or it's variants given his heightened reaction abilities/senses in SM, plus the help from Fukasaku and Shima. His only hope is catching him with a raiton kage bunshin, but finding time to make one while dealing with the summons prior to SM Jiraiya would be difficult.

There's a reason people usually restrict Jiraiya being able to use Gama Rinsho. It's an endgame technique with very few counters for it. It's Jiraiya's version of kamui, pretty much, maybe slightly less overpowered because of them having to synch their voices..but ridiculous all the same
 
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Kakashi wouldn't need kamui for the boss summonings. He could use that would cut through them like butter or if he really gets in a bind could rely on to get the job done.

The problem comes in when Jiraiya uses the time it takes Kakashi to deal with the summonings to enter SM. He can compete with Jiraiya in Sage Mode, but something he(nor the vast majority of the naruto-verse) has no counter for is Gama Rinsho.

It's unlikely Kakashi can best Jiraiya with raikiri or it's variants given his heightened reaction abilities/senses in SM, plus the help from Fukasaku and Shima. His only hope is catching him with a raiton kage bunshin, but finding time to make one while dealing with the summons prior to SM Jiraiya would be difficult.

There's a reason people usually restrict Jiraiya being able to use Gama Rinsho. It's an endgame technique with very few counters for it. It's Jiraiya's version of kamui, pretty much, maybe slightly less overpowered because of them having to synch their voices..but ridiculous all the same

the op said kakashi can kamui the summons

that means kakashi could kamui ma and pa to stop that from happing (kamui is faster then frog song)
 

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the op said kakashi can kamui the summons

that means kakashi could kamui ma and pa to stop that from happing (kamui is faster then frog song)

When Jiraiya is in sage mode, they're fused to his body through the ryosei technique, so not sure that really counts.

On top of that, the OP said 3 kamuis for the 3 summons, I'm assuming meaning Bunta, Hiro and Ken, the summons Naruto used vs Pain.
 

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This is basically Jiraiya w/o summons vs Part 1 Kakashi.

Kakashi admitted inferiority to Jiraiya. By hype I think Jiraiya takes it.

But in an actual fight, Jiraiya just has a bunch of weird moves and I think Sharingan Kakashi can counter them and successfully outmanuever Jiraiya and pick up a win high difficulty perhaps.
 

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Jiraiya wins med-high diff with those restrictions

If you allow all the summons for jiraiya and kakashi's killing mode op kamui i say kakashi wins high diff
 

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Sage Mode, enough Said
 

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I believe Jiraiya wins in base.

Kakashi has no real long range tech whereas Jiraiya has plenty. Their speed is more or less equal, though a taijutsu fight would be won by Kakashi. Jiraiya's best bet is to spam his stuff from afar. His stamina is way above Kakashi's.
 

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Jiraiya wins -.- but frog songs not that haxed .. its can be countered by a lot of people
 

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Jiraiya wins -.- but frog songs not that haxed .. its can be countered by a lot of people

Only by people who have knowledge of it before hand or have some way of making themselves completely deaf. It's not exactly your average genjutsu, it completely paralyzes the person. Doesn't matter what doujutsu you possess, how good you are in genjutsu yourself, etc.
 

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I like the discussions and there is no flaming here! I did mean 3 Boss Toads get KO'd by Kamui. Gamahiro, Gamabunta, and Gamaken.
 

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Without Kamui, it can go either way. Learning towards Jiraya though
 
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