J-man vs deidara

[~Uzumaki~]

They can see it because the entire cloud is made up of these bombs which are in turn made up of chakra. The air your breathing right now contains millions of skin cells and dust which are made up of solids, but because they're so small you can't tell them apart from any gas. What i've been trying to get at, is that i believe the cloud could be blown away by the fire type jutsu Uzumaki16 was referring to. Haha

+rep.

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

C4 is NOT gas.

But it is sill a very small particle that can be blown away by force.

 

[Cerox0]

C4 is nano sized bombs, in effect it's the same as atoms in a gas, which are solid. So yes, C4 is a gas, but like any gas the atoms are made of solids.

C4 nano bombs or on a cellular level. Atoms are smaller then cells, so what point are you trying to make again? Nowhere is the Jutsu stated to be gas like by deidara, only that to sasuke's sharingan all of them together LOOKED like a cloud of gas. Each Nano cell is too big for all of them to be considered as a "gas"

 

[~Uzumaki~]

At the highlighted part i agree and as you said you cannot tell them apart from any other cloud, unless you have a special ability that will allow you to see it. The parts i didnt highlight are the parts i do not agree with.

How do you blow something you cannot see away

If you read previous posts you'd see where I explained that Deidara manifesting a bomb as large as C4 will leave Jiraiya no option than to counter it with his own explosive attack as there is no sheild big enough to protect both him and Bunta. He'll be expecting an actual bomb so he'll blast it with Bunta Fire Oil combo while its getting ready to burst.

 

[Blaze Release]

What is there to blow away if jiraiya cannot see it.
Not sure if jiraiya is overrated or deidora is underrated and tbh although i realised a long time ago that vs threads are subjective and you hardly ever change a persons opinion, you start to take a back seat.

Tbh people are confused or are rather trying to over complicate what the manga has made very clear

 

[~Uzumaki~]

But it is sill a very small particle that can be blown away by force.

Indeed it is.

 

[Cerox0]

C4 nano bombs or on a cellular level. Atoms are smaller then cells, so what point are you trying to make again? Nowhere is the Jutsu stated to be gas like by deidara, only that to sasuke's sharingan all of them together LOOKED like a cloud of gas. Each Nano cell is too big for all of them to be considered as a "gas"

^This

 

[Blaze Release]

C4 nano bombs or on a cellular level. Atoms are smaller then cells, so what point are you trying to make again? Nowhere is the Jutsu stated to be gas like by deidara, only that to sasuke's sharingan all of them together LOOKED like a cloud of gas. Each Nano cell is too big for all of them to be considered as a "gas"

The chapter i uploaded alone should make it clear. It looks like gas to sharigan users because sharigan gives it colour and not because its actually gas

 

[Rapid]

Deidara wins jiraiya can't see his c4 bombs so he will destroyed by it

 

[Cerox0]

The chapter i uploaded alone should make it clear. It looks like gas to sharigan users because sharigan gives it colour and not because its actually gas

Wasn't towards you. Was to all the people on this thread that keep calling the jutsu a gas.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

The chapter i uploaded alone should make it clear. It looks like gas to sharigan users because sharigan gives it colour and not because its actually gas

But its suspended in air and is carried by air to targets nostrils so when air is blown away, it will be blown away along with air. Its like this, if I turn you nano sized and place you on a table then unleash a blow torch on you, you'll be destroyed and if there's anything left of you it would be far far away from the table where I placed you.

 

[Blaze Release]

Wasn't towards you. Was to all the people on this thread that keep calling the jutsu a gas.

That other guy nearly got me going back to my a level text book. Partly agreed with him, but wasnt too sure on a couple of things and couldnt be asked to look it up

 

[Utterly Gutsy Sage]

Jiraiya, even if Deidara used his self-destruct, Jiraiya has his barrier technique, the Toad Gourd Prision, where he can hide himself within the belly of a frog and just wait out the explosion. And if we give Jiraiya SM, he could easily whoop Deidara. JMAN.

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

What is there to blow away if jiraiya cannot see it.
Not sure if jiraiya is overrated or deidora is underrated and tbh although i realised a long time ago that vs threads are subjective and you hardly ever change a persons opinion, you start to take a back seat.

Tbh people are confused or are rather trying to over complicate what the manga has made very clear

J-Man does not have to see it, he can just spew fire everywhere and detonate every single nano bombs.
Of course you are asking, What the hell is J-man breathing fire everywhere for? Well, if Deidara does use C4, I can only see two options for J-man(Sennin Mode), First he can use his hair as a shield for the explosion but he might die due to inhalation of the nano bombs Or he can use fire to fight fire. if J-Man(Sennin Mode) has enough force to cause an equilibrium with the opposite force which is the C4, then he would be safe and as for the nano bombs going to J-man's direction, they would be destroyed too.
I just hope those Nano bombs are not Heat Seeking missiles haha.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

couldn't avoid shuriken, how would he avoid the single largest fire technique in Naruto?

He could dodge thousands of tons of Gaaras sand though...

Go to the previous page to see what Tobi says about it, btw how do you breathe in something that's not gaseous? So it IS gas.

You make no since!!!
You can breathe in salt, pepper, and crack dude, and they are not gas!

 

[The Necromancer]

This thread is turning into a science class... what have i done...

 

[Cerox0]

J-Man does not have to see it, he can just spew fire everywhere and detonate every single nano bombs.
Of course you are asking, What the hell is J-man breathing fire everywhere for? Well, if Deidara does use C4, I can only see two options for J-man(Sennin Mode), First he can use his hair as a shield for the explosion but he might die due to inhalation of the nano bombs Or he can use fire to fight fire. if J-Man(Sennin Mode) has enough force to cause an equilibrium with the opposite force which is the C4, then he would be safe and as for the nano bombs going to J-man's direction, they would be destroyed too.
I just hope those Nano bombs are not Heat Seeking missiles haha.

The problem with all that is, is that's IF Jman knew how the jutsu worked. Sasuke was able to counter with Sharingan. Something Jiraiya doesn't have so what will he do if he thinks the explosion was a fail like sasuke did?

@Blaze xD

 

[Blaze Release]

Yes the nano bombs travel though the air you breath which for obvious reasons you cannot stop. Secondly what you are saying is that jiraiya can see those nano bombs and he cannot. Thirdly you believe he will be infront of those nano bombs (for some strange reason), but c4 when it explodes its all around you.

Tbb this issue will never be resolved because neutrals say deidora people who favour jiraiya will say something else. The idea of jiraiya seeing or noticing those bombs alone isnt plausible. The idea of him not inhaling it at all due to the flimsy argument with the fire technique isnt happening

 

[BloodSeekerZ]

This thread is turning into a science class... what have i done...

Well, Kishi does take in the nature of things when he does his mangas.
If he didn't, then Shinra Tensei would not have cause a single scratch to the Hidden Leaf Village.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

He could dodge thousands of tons of Gaaras sand though...


You make no since!!!
You can breathe in salt, pepper, and crack dude, and they are not gas!

Still dude, shuriken.

You can also blow away salt pepper and crack. Which is what I'm saying Jiraiya does here.