Izanagi?

[Crt]

I've been wondering for a while:

Izanagi is an ability that utilizes Yin-Yang Release that can turn their imagination into reality at the cost of a Sharingan eye.

But didn't Obito say that only a person with Senju and Uchiha DNA (Danzo had Uchiha 'DNA' aka Sharingan Eyes)are able to use this ability?

If I recall correctly, Itachi said that its counterpart: Izanami was meant to trap Izanagi Users from trying to alter an outcome; play God.

So how did past Uchiha users use Izanagi without the Senju DNA?

 

[Mejkl3]

The older generation was stronger and more skilled. Btw Danzo only used Senju DNA in order to increase the durablity of Izanagi.

 

[Revengedace]

Thats a nice misconception lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

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some uchihas joined the senju, and they most likely had children

 

[Prime Rib]

To use izanagi to its full potential a user needs both dna but uchiha memebers can use the technique at the cost of 1 eye but it wont be perfect as the real thing

 

[ismael]

You need both the uchiha's and the senju's dna to be able to use izanagi. Tobi was able to use it because he had zetsu which is a weaker version of hashirama. I think madara survived like that too unless i don't see how anyone would survive a stab in the heart. Izanami is the opposite of izanagi but I don't think you need senju dna to use it unlike izanami. ( that is why it is its opposite ) The uchiha from long ago did not need senju dna simply because they had stronger eyes than those of today( obito or madara ).

 

[kunde]

Izanagi is basically a sharingan technique ...It takes an eye as a sacrifice ...
to simply cast Izanagi, user need not require senju DNA ...the user may need senju DNA only when he wants to use full potential Izanagi ...i think there is a difference b/w simple izanagi n full potential Izanagi ...
so senju DNA is required to unleash full powered Izanagi ..not to simply cast it ...

 

[ismael]

Izanagi is basically a sharingan technique ...It takes an eye as a sacrifice ...
to simply cast Izanagi, user need not require senju DNA ...the user may need senju DNA only when he wants to use full potential Izanagi ...i think there is a difference b/w simple izanagi n full potential Izanagi ...
so senju DNA is required to unleash full powered Izanagi ..not to simply cast it ...

what you're saying is actually believable.=D

 

[kunde]

what you're saying is actually believable.=D

thanks ..i hope u r not being sarcastic

 

[ismael]

thanks ..i hope u r not being sarcastic

no, i'm being honest. I'm never sarcastic on forums because i don't want to have a red rep bar.

 

[Transcendence]

You don't need Senju DNA to use Izanagi. It is an Uchiha technique. However, Senju DNA, or more specifically Hashirama's DNA, amplifies all the properties of it; Example: Obito's against Konan lasted a full 10 minutes whereas Danzo, who isn't a natural Uchiha could only do one minute Izanagi's even with Senju DNA (Has to do with the amount of DNA they have).

 

[Klue]

Past users obtained Senju DNA for the Izanagi. Uchiha and Senju fought and killed one another for generations. I see no reason why they wouldn't steal one another's power.

You don't need Senju DNA to use Izanagi. It is an Uchiha technique. However, Senju DNA, or more specifically Hashirama's DNA, amplifies all the properties of it; Example: Obito's against Konan lasted a full 10 minutes whereas Danzo, who isn't a natural Uchiha could only do one minute Izanagi's even with Senju DNA (Has to do with the amount of DNA they have).

-_-

Danzou's version was incomplete because he could not control Hashirama's power (Senju DNA). It's an Uchiha Technique because it was created by the Uchiha Clan AND/OR because it's an ocular jutsu - the chakra used for Izanagi passes through the eye.

Chakra is formed from physical and spiritual energy; Izanagi requires the physical energy of the Senju and the spiritual energy of the Uchiha.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

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some uchihas joined the senju, and they most likely had children

I second this.

 

[Beetle]

I was actually wanting to make a thread about Izanagi and the Sage, but I'll just do a cliffsnoted version of it here. Here's how I see it:

This manga page pretty much gives all the background info:

Spoiler

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So basically the jutsu commonly known as Creation of All Things is the perfect Izanagi the Sage is able to use. This requires the Sage's 'body' (The Senju Side) and the 'eyes' (Uchiha Side). If another were to gain both the Rinnegan and an equal 'body' to the Sage, he would be able to use Izanagi perfectly.

What we see as Izanagi is incomplete and essentially a watered-down version of what the Sage could do. The extent of the use of Izanagi depends on how close the user is to the Sage. So an Uchiha without Senju DNA only can perform a very short version of Izanagi, while someone who also has Senju DNA can use it longer. This is where the difference between Danzo's and Obito's Izanagi duration comes from.

Another thing to add is the Sage naturally didn't have blindness after using Izanagi. My assumption is that what essentially Danzo used (hand seals + blindness) was more or less a technique to forcibly and temporarily gain access to the abilities of the Sage. This is why he has to use hand seals and goes blind afterwards whereas the Sage inherently had the ability.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Itachi did say that in the past Uchiha members used Izanagi alot so it sounds like you don't need Senju DNA since Izanami doesn't need it and you also lose the Sharingan with Izanami so the requirements must be the same, they all couldn't have Senju DNA could they?

 

[TheWillofFire]

wow so many people don't know izanami/izanagi.

Fact #1 Izanagi requires SENJU DNA!
Fact #2 Izanami DOES NOT require SENJU DNA!

Back in the SO6P sons ancestors days, uchiha fought senju and would steal senju dna to acquire izanagi.
To stop this abuse of acquiring senju dna for power, izanami was created.
Izanami is Uchiha technique to set their other fellow uchiha brothers in their place, thus izanami is uchiha only, while Izanagi is Senju and Uchiha tech

 

[jorgelius]

i don't know if this helps or not but first time izanagi was used was actually here

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if nothing more you can replace eye that was used on izanagi

later obito thinks he managed keep few secrets from itachi.. and that's why he is alive. kamui in that situation would take too long only option was izanagi.. this was foreshadowing the technique before whole konan case

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

THEY HAD KIDS! with senjus

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Izanagi is NOT the power to turn imagination into reality - as far as we know, it is the power to turn Reality into imagination, and it has only 1 power and thats to turn death into an illusion

However, Izanagi is a fractioned variation of "Creation Of All Things Jutsu " that the sage used, the sage only used it after he became the jubi's jinchuuriki - which means 1-sharingan does originate from jubi, 2-if izanagi needs that much chakra to work, then COAT needs a hell of lot more.

 

[jorgelius]

it basically if activated early enough just turn death to imagination, it's so powerful gen tech that pretty much anyone how know how to activate it can atleast cheat death.. but idont see why not someone more adept at handling sharingan could not use it to something else.. since it is yin-yang release