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Yea ok but izanagi is just a simpler version of the creation of all things so then shouldnt tobi be able to use izanagi as much as he wants?
you think anyone but the sage, with all the SIX PATHS inside himself, would be able to use the jutsu that he would have used??!?!?! Tobi and Madara only have 2 paths (senju,uchiha) inside their bodies... imagine what the sage was.

THE SAGE USED CREATION OF ALL THINGS WITH HIS RINNEGAN. why would tobi be able to use izanagi as much as he wants when he used it with a sharingan??!?!? it's two different techniques with different outcomes and requirements... do you get that?

An incomplete version of it, which can be used with the sharingan, causes the user to lose that sharingan, sealing it away forever... it's similar to the curse seal the members of the branch family in the Hyuga clans have in oder to seal away their byakugan when they die.

You lose your sharingan in exchange to turn fatal wounds upon your own self into illusions, like it never happened.
 
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DUDE EMS only allows a person not to go blind FROM OVERUSING MS DOJUTSU!!! Remember when sasuke was about to lose the light from his eyes after overusing Susanoo from the kage summit all the way to battling danzo and meeting up with team 7? he overused his MS, making it possible for him to go completely blind... BOTH EYES, just like madara did and had to get izuna's eyes to gain the "light back".


gad u stupid
If you read the post properly you will notice that I submitted(acknowledged that I was wrong) so no I'm not stupid I just misunderstood.
 

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you think anyone but the sage, with all the SIX PATHS inside himself, would be able to use the jutsu that he would have used??!?!?! Tobi and Madara only have 2 paths (senju,uchiha) inside their bodies... imagine what the sage was.

THE SAGE USED CREATION OF ALL THINGS WITH HIS RINNEGAN. why would tobi be able to use izanagi as much as he wants when he used it with a sharingan??!?!? it's two different techniques with different outcomes and requirements... do you get that?

An incomplete version of it, which can be used with the sharingan, causes the user to lose that sharingan forever... it's similar to the curse seal the members of the branch family in the Hyuga clans have in oder to seal away their byakugan when they die.]
Tobi didnt have the rinnegan when he used izanagi dumbass
 

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Tobi didnt have the rinnegan when he used izanagi dumbass
you are the retard, re-read what i wrote. you tool.

it's the BOLDED part... u know what, i'll even re-provide it for you since you're slow
"""why would tobi be able to use izanagi as much as he wants when he used it with a sharingan?""""- making it the incomplete version, when the sage used creation of all things, not izanagi, with the rinnegan and all of his sage powers.
it's two different techniques with different outcomes and requirements... do you get that?

creation of all things -->using rinnegan (perfect version), only the sage or someone with all of the 6 paths (which would make them the new sage) can use this jutsu-- affect complete realm of reality
izanagi---> only needs a sharingan; which is sealed away for using incomplete version(partial version)-- affect partial/personal/user reality

tobi--- posses 2 (senju n uchiha) of 6 paths
sage of six paths--- posses all 6 paths which makes the complete sage with all his powers and jutsu.

and you ask why tobi can't do what the sage can do multiple times??!?!?

you idiot.
 
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you are the retard, re-read what i wrote. you tool.

it's the BOLDED part... u know what, i'll even re-provide it for you since you're slow
"""why would tobi be able to use izanagi as much as he wants when he used it with a sharingan?"""" when the sage used creation of all things with the rinnegan...
it's two different techniques with different outcomes and requirements... do you get that?

creation of all things -->using rinnegan (perfect version)-- affect complete realm of reality
izanagi---> only needs a sharingan; which is sealed away for using incomplete version(partial version)-- affect partial/personal/user reality

you idiot.
Yea thats great i like how you edit your posts after i have posted but anyway show me proof that you cant use izanagi with a rinnegan then i will sumbit to your douchebaggery
 

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Yea thats great i like how you edit your posts after i have posted but anyway show me proof that you cant use izanagi with a rinnegan then i will sumbit to your douchebaggery
you are a freaking moron, they both say the same thing when you posted.

if it didn't when you replied to it it would look different then my previous post, which they do not.


I JUST SAID YOU DO USE IZANAGI WITH RINNENGAN, BUT IT'S A COMPLETE VERSION called CREATION OF ALL THINGS! it's two different techniques with different outcomes and requirements... do you get that?

Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu --YIN only (creation of all things applies yin AND yang, which makes it a different jutsu). When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence. It is normally only active for the briefest of moments.
Izanagi can only be used by those with the genetic traits of the Sage of the Six Paths. The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. In exchange for the brief control of reality that it allows them, the Sharingan with which Izanagi is cast becomes blind. For this reason the Uchiha labelled it a kinjutsu.

The technique is based on an ability the Sage of the Six Paths had, referred to as "Creation of All Things" (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō). The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. THUS BRINGING FORTH THE CREATION OF IZANAGI BY THE UCHIHA CLAN WITH THEIR SHARINGAN.
It is said that the technique Izanagi is based on this technique --BASED ON and developed by the uchiha clan which has genjutsu/yin chakra, get it?

Using Creation of All Things then, the sage possessing the rinnegan, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form. The sage used this ability to split the Ten-Tails into nine tailed beasts.
 
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I think Tobi already used Izanagi against Konan.
He did and it shut one of his eyes...

As far as we know,Izanagi closes the eye permanently regardless of what stage of Sharingan you have,even EMS. Until we see otherwise.

Sage was different to the Uchiha. They have a blood soaked bleblebleh etc etc, their story is meant to be tragic. So I guess giving them eternal light and the ability to keep Izanagi active would be BS.

Also, if that were the case, then Madara might have spammed it against, Hashirama but he didn't.

You also DO need both Sharingan & Senju DNA for Izanagi that is final.
 

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To make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage. Partially for this reason Danzō had some of Hashirama Senju's DNA transplanted into his arm, which had the added benefit of increasing his physical energy and vitality as well as access to Wood Release which could be used to subjugate tailed beasts. Tobi also makes use of Hashirama's DNA, though he claims to have gained control of it, unlike Danzō.
 

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You also DO need both Sharingan & Senju DNA for Izanagi that is final.
not necessarily, otherwise why would the uchiha condemn it a kinjutsu ? Only Madara and Tobi and Danzo has had access to both Uchiha and Senju DNA, only difference is that to make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju... meaning keeping the jutsu active for a longer period of time, like Tobi did for about 5 minutes, instead of "for the briefest of moments" using just Uchiha Dna.
 
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He did and it shut one of his eyes...

As far as we know,Izanagi closes the eye permanently regardless of what stage of Sharingan you have,even EMS. Until we see otherwise.

Sage was different to the Uchiha. They have a blood soaked bleblebleh etc etc, their story is meant to be tragic. So I guess giving them eternal light and the ability to keep Izanagi active would be BS.

Also, if that were the case, then Madara might have spammed it against, Hashirama but he didn't.

You also DO need both Sharingan & Senju DNA for Izanagi that is final.
Yea im inclined to listen to wiser members unlike myself and most probably the ems doesnt let you use izanagi anymore than once and even if it technically did, kishi would never allow it.
 
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