Izanagi/Izanami Question

[JojocIaw]

I have had this question on my mind ever since I read the latest chapter.

What part of Izanagi (possibly Izanami as well) does Senju DNA enhance?

Is it that it allows you some sort of regenerative power?

Like for example, does Senju DNA or better yet Hashirama's DNA, allow the cells to rapidly increase the regenerative rate which allow the illusion that you are not getting hurt?

What exactly is the type of illusion you are casting on yourself?

Are you entering some kind of void in space/time that allows you to "skip" a point in the current existence? Basically like going thru a door instead of hitting a wall? (I hope that sounds right?)

Could Tobi's S/T Ninjutsu be considered as Izanagi? Would explain why he has alot of eyes. He could be burning through several at a time. If not then skip this troll sentence.

Why has Izanagi been mentioned/discussed as being "incomplete"? What would be a "complete" version? I doubt it is creation of all things because that is a Rinnegan technique and I doubt the SO6P's is an Uchiha seeing as how he created them before they became "Uchiha".

I have more questions but I shall wait to see what answers you can come up with.

Thanks for you time guys. :3

 

[hiitz]

The senju/Uchiha was once the same it was SO6P

 

[JojocIaw]

The senju/Uchiha was once the same it was SO6P

I knew that already. :3

 

[hiitz]

I knew that already. :3

oh... i almost forgot +repp

 

[JojocIaw]

oh... i almost forgot +repp

Thanks back at ya. ;3

 

[iSpeak]

Uchiha inherited the Sage's powerful Yin (governs imagination/illusion) chakra, which is why they are so good at genjutsu etc.
Senju inherited the Sage's powerful Yang (governs vitality) chakra, which is why they are so good at healing, why they could live for so long, why the 1st hokage was able to make his plants come to life etc. (Vitality = The capacity to live, grow, or develop).
Izanagi is a Yin-Yang release jutsu. You basically give the illusion that your injuries/death/any disadvantages never happened with the Yin release, and make the jutsu come to life with the Yang release. So in order to use Izanagi, you need the Sharingan (which is the main tool for Uchiha Yin release), and you need powerful Yang chakra to breathe life into the illusion (which is why so many people were after Hashirama's dna).
Its not like entering a void in space/time. You are literally turning your own reality into an illusion. Basically, you are casting the illusion on yourself that you never died on yourself, then making that illusion your reality. So you do need Senju dna (or powerful Yang dna) for Izanagi.
Tobi's s/t isn't Izanagi since he doesn't change the past.
To be honest I don't really understand the complete/incomplete bit. I just assumed Tobi had more skill with his Izanagi which allowed him to use it for 5 minutes with 1 eye (Danzo could only use 1 minute for each eye). Maybe 5 minutes is the max amount of time you can use Izanagi for.

 

[Yo pappy]

Unless you can fully control it Senju DNA doesn't enhance Izanagi. It's just a requirement for the technique.

Regenerative in what sense? Danzo used it primarily to decrease the amount of time needed to use Shisuis eye.

You don't cast an illusion on yourself, you make reality an illusion. Whatever the hell that means.

Tobi's Space Time jutsu is not Izanagi, it's a space time jutsu. Two completely different things. Anything that happens to Tobi before teleporting will still be there afterwards.

 

[saar0507]

i have a thearoy that say that uchiha with MS dont need senju DNA and only a 3tome sharingan users or unperfect sharingan users need senju dna

 

[maiavarepz]

as it has been said in the previous threads about izanagi and izanami, you only need senju blood if your not of the uchiha line (remember, these techniques were banned from the uchiha - now think, why would the uchiha be banned from using the technique if they don't have senju blood, better yet, hashi's blood), it is because that is the top moves that any uchiha (with enough skill and practice, as well as experience blah blah blah) can use

so no, you don't need senju dna to use the jutsu

 

[PaperHERO]

Uchiha inherited the Sage's Yin (governs imagination/illusion) chakra, which is why they are so good at genjutsu etc.
Senju inherited the Sage's Yang (governs vitality) chakra, which is why they are so good at healing, why they could live for so long, why the 1st hokage was able to make his plants come to life etc. (Vitality = The capacity to live, grow, or develop).
Izanagi is a Yin-Yang release jutsu. You basically give the illusion that your injuries/death/any disadvantages never happened with the Yin release, and make the jutsu come to life with the Yang release. So in order to use Izanagi, you need the Sharingan (which is the main tool for Uchiha Yin release), and you need powerful Yang chakra to breathe life into the illusion (which is why so many people were after Hashirama's dna).
Its not like entering a void in space/time. You are literally turning your own reality into an illusion. Basically, you are casting the illusion on yourself that you never died on yourself, then making that illusion your reality.
Tobi's s/t isn't Izanagi since he doesn't change the past.
To be honest I don't really understand the complete/incomplete bit. I just assumed Tobi had more skill with his Izanagi which allowed him to use it for 5 minutes with 1 eye (Danzo could only use 1 minute for each eye). Maybe 5 minutes is the max amount of time you can use Izanagi for.

+rep I'm amazed & I DON'T KNOW WHY. xd

 

[MrLukyso]

as it has been said in the previous threads about izanagi and izanami, you only need senju blood if your not of the uchiha line (remember, these techniques were banned from the uchiha - now think, why would the uchiha be banned from using the technique if they don't have senju blood, better yet, hashi's blood), it is because that is the top moves that any uchiha (with enough skill and practice, as well as experience blah blah blah) can use

so no, you don't need senju dna to use the jutsu

Dumbass, yes you need Senju DNA tu use Izanagi.. Read the manga and follow every text Tobi or Madara says and then you can understand that Madara obtained Senju powers form Hashirama only to be able to use Perfect Izanagi. And Tobi had Zetsu in him which allowed him to use perfect Izanagi also. Only with Yin you can't use the jutsu you need Yang to make it real.:sy:

 

[maiavarepz]

Dumbass, yes you need Senju DNA tu use Izanagi.. Read the manga and follow every text Tobi or Madara says and then you can understand that Madara obtained Senju powers form Hashirama only to be able to use Perfect Izanagi. And Tobi had Zetsu in him which allowed him to use perfect Izanagi also. Only with Yin you can't use the jutsu you need Yang to make it real.:sy:

why the hell was it banned by the uchiha then?? the reason is because it causes blindness. he only said that when sasuke was fighting danzo. danzo was neither uchiha nor senju, so, he needed both for izanagi. only a true uchiha would be able to use izanagi / izanami (which is in itatchis case) without the need for senju DNA, being the direct descendants of the SO6P.

don't go calling me a dumbass when you don't even know me, fool. get your facts straight, before i iron you out with it.

 

[JojocIaw]

I wonder WHY you need the DNA of Hashirama Senju though. I am starting to doubt that it is specifically a senju dna you need. Otherwise these guys could have picked some fodder ninja with the surname attached. I think it is more correct to state that in order for Izanagi to work, however incomplete (i guess depends on the skill of the user), you need Hashirama's DNA. There is something special about his power/DNA that allows some sort of trigger to Izanagi and probably Izanami as well.

 

[natssuu]

I wonder WHY you need the DNA of Hashirama Senju though. I am starting to doubt that it is specifically a senju dna you need. Otherwise these guys could have picked some fodder ninja with the surname attached. I think it is more correct to state that in order for Izanagi to work, however incomplete (i guess depends on the skill of the user), you need Hashirama's DNA. There is something special about his power/DNA that allows some sort of trigger to Izanagi and probably Izanami as well.

Only DNA of those who have the body Sage's younger son had, which are Hashirama and Naruto.

 

[JojocIaw]

Only DNA of those who have the body Sage's younger son had, which are Hashirama and Naruto.

Would that imply that all Senju/Uzumaki have the sage's body? Or just those who have inherited his specific genetic traits? We cannot compare Naruto and Hashirama since they are two different people with two different types of traits and characteristics. But I hear what you are trying to say.

What I am trying to get to the bottom of is what exactly about his (Hashi) DNA acts as a trigger for Izanagi/Izanami. But I guess we won't know. I was hoping someone could come up with an interesting theory.

 

[natssuu]

Would that imply that all Senju/Uzumaki have the sage's body? Or just those who have inherited his specific genetic traits? We cannot compare Naruto and Hashirama since they are two different people with two different types of traits and characteristics. But I hear what you are trying to say.

What I am trying to get to the bottom of is what exactly about his (Hashi) DNA acts as a trigger for Izanagi/Izanami. But I guess we won't know. I was hoping someone could come up with an interesting theory.

Probably powerful Yang chakra is needed to use the techniques. That's what SO6P, his younger son, Hashirama and Naruto have all in common.

 

[sindi1997]

Dumbass, yes you need Senju DNA tu use Izanagi.. Read the manga and follow every text Tobi or Madara says and then you can understand that Madara obtained Senju powers form Hashirama only to be able to use Perfect Izanagi. And Tobi had Zetsu in him which allowed him to use perfect Izanagi also. Only with Yin you can't use the jutsu you need Yang to make it real.:sy:

actualy danzo used hashirama s cells to controll the sharingans and the sharingan to use izanagi I just readed them agian and this is how it is so you don t need senju cells to use izanagi read agian pal