Izanagi and Izanami

[SSU]

So Tobito stated that in order to use Izanagi one must have both powers of Uchiha and Senju. Tobito had Hashi DNA + sharingan and Danzo had the same as well.

Later we find out that Izanagi was becoming a serious issue due to the frequent use Izanami. So did these Uchiha members also have Senju powers within them or was Tobito just lying?

Madara also used Izanagi but this was before he had the senju DNA in him, so I'm leaning towards him lying.

But if that is true then why was he lying?

 

[Kingu]

Madara chewed off some meat from Hashis arm thats why he could use izanagi.

 

[dark legion]

Maybe he didn't lie , maybe he didn't know !


and : Madara isn't just a uchiha like others , always make this difference , cuz what he did is beyond uchiha !



take example of madara as Indra: even indra didn't have senju DNA , but he was the first one to have sharingan , and probably he could use all sharingan jutsus , including izanagi w/o senju DNA!

 

[Ansatsuken]

Maybe for Madara, that his Sharigan special ability

And Izanami is just used once by Itachi, the oftenly used is Izanagi by Danzo (the most), Obito and Madara

Danzo and Obito got Ashura chakra

 

[Draphsin]

They could've had senju powers, after all it wasn't hard for an uchiha to get their hands on the dna.

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& Madara swallowed some of hashi's flesh before he used it, so it's possible that that's what allowed him to perform it.

 

[SSU]

But there were other Uchiha who were also using it and I highly doubt that they had Senju DNA with them. And I don't think that Madara could have digested or used Hashi's meat that quickly (especially during a fight).

 

[Draphsin]

And I don't think that Madara could have digested or used Hashi's meat that quickly (especially during a fight).

It was never stated for how long the two pieces of dna need to mix before you can use their powers, so it's still a possibility.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

So Tobito stated that in order to use Izanagi one must have both powers of Uchiha and Senju. Tobito had Hashi DNA + sharingan and Danzo had the same as well.

Later we find out that Izanagi was becoming a serious issue due to the frequent use Izanami. So did these Uchiha members also have Senju powers within them or was Tobito just lying?

Izanagi is a variant to creation of all things so no, I don't believe Obito was lying. Danzou having the cells and chakra of both clans as well as Madara eating Hashirama's flesh right when Black Zetsu mentioned his Izanagi also supports this. Yes, Izanami's mythology intertwines with Izanagi, yes it is Izanagi's counter, and yes, it causes the eye to lose its light, but it's never directly stated to be composed of yin-yang release like Izanagi or that the blood of both clans is required. However, it doesn't exactly state it doesn't. Itachi may have injected himself with senju blood for all we know, but there's no way to ever be sure if he did or not.

Madara also used Izanagi but this was before he had the senju DNA in him, so I'm leaning towards him lying.

False. Izanagi was on a counter and only activated after Madara was killed, after he had eaten Hashirama's flesh. It is also unknown when he cast it. And for all we know, he may have used someone else's eyes to implant it, especially since Itachi implanting amaterasu in Sasuke was made a parallel to it.

But if that is true then why was he lying?

He wasn't.

 

[shelke]

Obito was toking. It's Itachi's explanation that is legitimate. Izanagi was abused by the Uchihas, which is why Izanami was created. Since Itachi doesn't say anything in this regard, it is what is legitimate. Also, the Izanagi Obito talked about was the actual version of it: the creation of all things. That requires the mingling of two blood lines, and that can only be done through transmigrants.

 

[VongolaX]

Obito was toking. It's Itachi's explanation that is legitimate. Izanagi was abused by the Uchihas, which is why Izanami was created. Since Itachi doesn't say anything in this regard, it is what is legitimate. Also, the Izanagi Obito talked about was the actual version of it: the creation of all things. That requires the mingling of two blood lines, and that can only be done through transmigrants.

But Obito said he was able ton use the full power of Izanagi.

Danzo was only able to use it because he had the senju dna.

How does one bring themselves to life, without the use of yang release?

It's not a tensei that requires your life, so how do you bring life without sacrificing your own?

 

[shelke]

But Obito said he was able ton use the full power of Izanagi.

Danzo was only able to use it because he had the senju dna.

How does one bring themselves to life, without the use of yang release

Obito talked about the Creation of all things, which is also Izanagi. The ones Uchihas use, is a diluted version. Nothing in Itachi's story indicates that it requires Senju DNA, when it's simply the alteration of reality at the cost of light. Izanami's costs are the same.

Where is it said that Hashirama's DNA allowed him to use Izanagi? It was used to enhance his reserves. There is no way in hell he would have survived by using so many eyes simultaneously, and Shisui's KA to boot.

Izanagi alters reality. It doesn't bring one back to life. The reality is reverted back exactly to the point when its seals are used. Even the cuts, bruises remain the same, as we saw with Danzo. Uchihas used it to create battle logs and learn from their actions.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Izanagi doesnt need senju.

Obito was talking about COAT that needs it.